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I hope and pray this lady recovers and gets the love, care and attention she needs

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#2
8 and a half hours, THEN she jumps...
banned#3
jasonodell
8 and a half hours, THEN she jumps...


It is a long time is't it.

My fella wasn't happy about being held up on the motorway.

I hope she recovers though.
#4
Seems to be some what the area. My friends talked a woman down last year around that area. :-(
banned#5
Adam2050
Seems to be some what the area. My friends talked a woman down last year around that area. :-(


I know the new part of the M60 between heaton park and ashton has lots of these incidents, unfortunately.
banned#6
No sympathy AT ALL. Not even the slightest hint of giving a damn. Just out to cause as many problems as possible for innocent others, just utterly utterly selfish.

(You know what I want to say as well... but I better not say THAT because I'll get suspended, but you can guess)
banned#7
DLM
I hope you or your family never suffer from depression.

It is not a nice thing and it doesn't help when people name call :roll:


Depression doesn't cause you to ALWAYS find the nearest motorway bridge does it? Go somewhere quiet if you are really gonna do it.

Don't cause problems for millions of others with your selfish actions.

inb4 this thread goes the same way as the avonmouth bridge jumper thread
1 Like #8
i hope she is ok depression is a terrible thing hope some of the negative posters on here never have to suffer from it
banned#9
vibeone
Depression doesn't cause you to ALWAYS find the nearest motorway bridge does it? Go somewhere quiet if you are really gonna do.

Don't cause problems for millions of others with your selfish actions.

inb4 this thread goes the same way as the avonmouth bridge jumper thread


Maybe she thought it would be the quickest way.

My friend did his wrists and then hung himself.

The first plan mustn't have worked.
banned#10
louloublue
i hope she is ok depression is a terrible thing hope some of the negative posters on here never have to suffer from it


Me too, unfortunately it is a wicked illness and a lot of people are burdened by it x x
banned#11
DLM
Maybe she thought it would be the quickest way.

My friend did his wrists and then hung himself.

The first plan mustn't have worked.


Sorry to hear that - as stated my problem is not with those who kill themselves, its those "lower than the low" who decide they are gonna screw over millions of others on the way.
banned#12
vibeone
Depression doesn't cause you to ALWAYS find the nearest motorway bridge does it? Go somewhere quiet if you are really gonna do it.

[B]Don't cause problems for millions of others with your selfish actions.

inb4 this thread goes the same way as the avonmouth bridge jumper thread[/B]


It's a question of perspective. For a person to be suicidal means they have already contemplated something most people couldn't - inconveniencing others doesn't' come close to that.
banned#13
vibeone
Sorry to hear that - as stated my problem is not with those who kill themselves, its those "lower than the low" who decide they are gonna screw over millions of others on the way.


Maybe she had done her wrists, taken the pills etc..

How do you know that her father had not jumped at the same place last year.
#14
vibeone
Sorry to hear that - as stated my problem is not with those who kill themselves, its those "lower than the low" who decide they are gonna screw over millions of others on the way.


dont think that s your only problem
someone jumps of a bridge and the only thing you can say is its made it incovenant for people
banned#15
louloublue
dont think that s your only problem
someone jumps of a bridge and the only thing you can say is its made it incovenant for people


Thats exactly what I'm saying yes. Well that and its incredibly selfish. You are welcome to your opinion but I don't consider that a "problem".

Why should others have to suffer for 1 person causing a scene?
banned#16
DLM
Maybe she had done her wrists, taken the pills etc..

How do you know that her father had not jumped at the same place last year.


Well with the greatest respect to you, and seriously not trolling mods - I don't care if he did or not. Why should I?
banned#17
vibeone
Thats exactly what I'm saying yes. Well that and its incredibly selfish. You are welcome to your opinion but I don't consider that a "problem".

Why should others have to suffer for 1 person causing a scene?


VO, don't bother posting in this thread if you are just going to wind people up.
banned#18
vibeone

Well with the greatest respect to you, and seriously not trolling mods - I don't care if he did or not. Why should I?


Maybe you are made of stone :thinking:
banned#19
FilthAndFurry
It's a question of perspective. For a person to be suicidal means they have already contemplated something most people couldn't - inconveniencing others doesn't' come close to that.


I'm aware of that. Thats why they should be left to it if out of harms way, or if causing mass inconvenicene and upset to people - a copper should annouce what is going to happen to the jumper, walk steadily over and grab him/her. If he/she jumps beforehand, so be it.

Just utterly selfish in my opinion to decide to do it on a motorway, and if they don't care, neither do I.
banned#20
vibeone

I'm aware of that. Thats why they should be left to it if out of harms way, or if causing mass inconvenicene and upset to people - a copper should annouce what is going to happen to the jumper, walk steadily over and grab him/her. If he/she jumps beforehand, so be it.

Just utterly selfish in my opinion to decide to do it on a motorway, and if they don't care, neither do I.


But if you don't care, why should they?
banned#21
DLM
VO, don't bother posting in this thread if you are just going to wind people up.


DLM
Maybe you are made of stone :thinking:


First point: I'm allowed an opinion. You have no idea how wound up I get at the likes of you defending it. You know full well plenty of people agree with me, and plenty with you. Why resort to saying I'm winding people up?

Second point: Maybe I am. I have feelings, I care for people and I get upset. Just not in this case.
#22
vibeone
Sorry to hear that - as stated my problem is not with those who kill themselves, its those "lower than the low" who decide they are gonna screw over millions of others on the way.


Dunno why i'm discussing this with you since you're clearly a troll inciting a negative response, but your point is very simplistic. The reason being, if the inconvenience caused to others is "selfish", it can't be less selfish than the pain and trauma caused to her friends and family. I don't believe any of it is selfish at all since it is an illness, but if you genuinly do take that viewpoint you must believe that those like DTM's friend and others that kill themselves are also selfish.
banned#23
FilthAndFurry
But if you don't care, why should they?


Hence my solution in a previous post - attempt to rescue them, if they jump they jump. But it happens right away - no waiting for hours etc.
banned#24
Snailman
Dunno why i'm discussing this with you since you're clearly a troll inciting a negative response, but your point is very simplistic. The reason being, if the inconvenience caused to others is "selfish", it can't be less selfish than the pain and trauma caused to her friends and family. I don't believe any of it is selfish at all since it is an illness, but if you genuinly do take that viewpoint you must believe that those like DTM's friend and others that kill themselves are also selfish.


I do.

People who kill themselves are selfish. For the very reasons you state, and I agree with.

BTW, You are clearly capable of discussing the topic like an adult, so please don't resort to calling me a troll. My views are 100% genuine, and I strongly disagree with others in this thread - I haven't said they are trolling though.
#25
vibeone
I do.

People who kill themselves are selfish. For the very reasons you state, and I agree with.

BTW, You are clearly capable of discussing the topic like an adult, so please don't resort to calling me a troll. My views are 100% genuine, and I strongly disagree with others in this thread - I haven't said they are trolling though.


Glad you cleared that up, it was just this post contradicted that in my eyes:

vibeone
Sorry to hear that - as stated my problem is not with those who kill themselves, its those "lower than the low" who decide they are gonna screw over millions of others on the way.
#26
vibeone
I do.

People who kill themselves are selfish. For the very reasons you state, and I agree with.

BTW, You are clearly capable of discussing the topic like an adult, so please don't resort to calling me a troll. My views are 100% genuine, and I strongly disagree with others in this thread - I haven't said they are trolling though.


I think the problem is when you suffer from a mental disorder/condition you do not think in a logical and reasoned way. So I think if unfair to label this person as selfish. Her though pattens would be totally different to norm.
banned#27
vibeone
I do.

People who kill themselves are selfish. For the very reasons you state, and I agree with.

BTW, You are clearly capable of discussing the topic like an adult, so please don't resort to calling me a troll. My views are 100% genuine, and I strongly disagree with others in this thread - I haven't said they are trolling though.


How about you go to one of these meetings:-

http://www.uk-sobs.org.uk/groups.htm

Tell somebody there that their loved one was selfish.

I am sure you will be shown the door.
banned#28
vibeone
I do.

People who kill themselves are selfish. For the very reasons you state, and I agree with.

BTW, You are clearly capable of discussing the topic like an adult, so please don't resort to calling me a troll. My views are 100% genuine, and I strongly disagree with others in this thread - I haven't said they are trolling though.


All humans are selfish. Suicide is never an easy choice, but it is no more selfish than many other actions one might take.
banned#29
dananana
I think the problem is when you suffer from a mental disorder/condition you do not think in a logical and reasoned way. So I think if unfair to label this person as selfish. Her though pattens would be totally different to norm.


That's close to it. 'Reasonable behaviour' is a subjective term. If you're suicidal, then to you it might be the most reasonable and rational course of action to take.
banned#30
FilthAndFurry
All humans are selfish. Suicide is never an easy choice, but it is no more selfish than many other actions one might take.


I don't think my friend was selfish, I just think he was very ill.

He obviously could not see a way through his problems and decided to take his life.

I hope he is at peace now.

R.I.P. Keith
#31
dananana
I think the problem is when you suffer from a mental disorder/condition you do not think in a logical and reasoned way. So I think if unfair to label this person as selfish. Her though pattens would be totally different to norm.

Well said!!

My brother lives with mental illness,he is one of the lucky ones though,many of his friends who suffered similar illness were not able to live with the torture it can bring and chose to end their lives in similar ways.:-(
banned 1 Like #32
muckypup
Well said!!

My brother lives with mental illness,he is one of the lucky ones though,many of his friends who suffered similar illness were not able to live with the torture it can bring and chose to end their lives in similar ways.:-(


Aw, hope the new year brings happiness to you and your family x x
1 Like #33
DLM
Aw, hope the new year brings happiness to you and your family x x

Thank you sweetie.......and the same to you :)

As I say,he is lucky,he got the help that was needed many years ago(he is now 45) through my Mum being a pushy bint lol but many are not so fortunate,misdiagnosis and lack of funds and facilities for those needing help.

I sometimes feel sad for the person that he once could have been,but mostly I am thankful and admire him for the gentle soul that he now is and managing to live independently despite the awful thoughts that I know float around in his head.

Those who have no experience or understanding of these terrible illnesses often make crass statements with regards to selfishness,that is just ignorance on their part...they should be thankful that their loved ones are not affected.
banned#34
muckypup
Thank you sweetie.......and the same to you :)

As I say,he is lucky,he got the help that was needed many years ago(he is now 45) through my Mum being a pushy bint lol but many are not so fortunate,misdiagnosis and lack of funds and facilities for those needing help.

I sometimes feel sad for the person that he once could have been,but mostly I am thankful and admire him for the gentle soul that he now is and managing to live independently despite the awful thoughts that I know float around in his head.

Those who have no experience or understanding of these terrible illnesses often make crass statements with regards to selfishness,that is just ignorance on their part...they should be thankful that their loved ones are not affected.


Aw, your mum sounds lovely.

I hope the awful thoughts are not tormenting him too much.

Take care of yourself and next time you see your brother give him a big hug x x
banned#35
very sad, cant even comprehend what goes on to make someone do that, well i can slightly and thats bad enough, i hope she gets the help and support she needs
#36
It is entirely possible that this lady was suffering from depression or mental illness, as so many posters on this thread have assumed, but there is no mention of it in the article.
#37
chesso
It is entirely possible that this lady was suffering from depression or mental illness, as so many posters on this thread have assumed, but there is no mention of it in the article.

One does not normally throw themselves off a bridge whilst in the right frame of mind so fair assumptions in the circumstances.
#38
chesso
It is entirely possible that this lady was suffering from depression or mental illness, as so many posters on this thread have assumed, but there is no mention of it in the article.


its a safe assumption,most people do not throw themselves off bridges in their normal day to day activities.
#39
muckypup
One does not normally throw themselves off a bridge whilst in the right frame of mind so fair assumptions in the circumstances.


boothy
its a safe assumption,most people do not throw themselves off bridges in their normal day to day activities.

I agree that it is not a normal occurrence nor what we might call the 'right frame' of mind' but I it is better IMO that people find out some facts before they make any assumptions regarding mental illness or depression.

I can suppose of all sorts of things that might have led this young woman to take this awful decision - pain, cancer or other fatal illness, rape, bereavement, guilt, drugs and the list can go on.
#40
chesso
I agree that it is not a normal occurrence nor what we might call the 'right frame' of mind' but I it is better IMO that people find out some facts before they make any assumptions regarding mental illness or depression.

I can suppose of all sorts of things that might have led this young woman to take this awful decision - pain, cancer or other fatal illness, rape, bereavement, guilt, drugs and the list can go on.


Yes I agree,any of the things you have mentioned may well be the case,and of course,any of these can lead to a break in a person's emotional and mental wellbeing.

Whatever the circumstances it is so very sad that anyone believes this course of action to be the answer.

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