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Imo Gordon Brown wiped the floor with David Cameron today at PMQ (see video link)

Liddle ol' me Avatar
7y, 8m agoPosted 7 years, 8 months ago
See the video from 2 mins onwards. Best performance yet by Gordon, and good to see him handle himself so well in what has been perhaps his worst week as PM.

What do you think?

I enjoyed watching him point-blank refuse to answer the irrelevant questions Cameron insisted on asking. "Why is she still in the cabinet?" "Why is she still in the cabinet?" Cameron is little more than a walking tabloid.

He's a parody of a Tory toff playing up to the twits around him. No substance, just vacuous tripe and mockery. And when I see the face of George Osborne, his Bullingdon Club pal, sitting beside him either giggling like a chimp when the jokes are flying or looking as if he hasn't a clue what is being said at other times, it makes my blood boil that so many people buy their story. Arrrgghhhhhhh!

( Edit: But I am clearly biased about all this :-) )
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7y, 8m agoPosted 7 years, 8 months ago
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#2
what a shame wiping floors won't pay for all the banking sector cock ups

read this and see if you still think he is a leader you want

http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/press_68_07.htm
banned#3
It's funny how you can have a completely different opinion to someone else isn't it Liddle.

Sorry don't agree.
#4
vibeone
It's funny how you can have a completely different opinion to someone else isn't it Liddle.

Sorry don't agree.


Didn't realise you spoke for the rest of the world vibeone - that really would be a sorry state of affairs :lol:

Any reason why you don't agree? Even watch the video..?
#5
LOM, i would rather watch paint dry then watch a video of gordon brown speaking ........ :lazy:
banned#6
Liddle ol' me
Didn't realise you spoke for the rest of the world vibeone - that really would be a sorry state of affairs :lol:

Any reason why you don't agree? Even watch the video..?

Um not sure where exactly I claimed to speak for the rest of the world.

I watched most of it live, along with the highlights and live commentary on and off. I happened to state I didn't agree with you?
#7
brown didn't answer any questions as per and is ignoring everything cameron has asked him going off on his pre planned attacks on the torys that really havn't any relevence to camerons questions.
Its a poor show when jim murphy is drafted in to sit beside brown, he really is getting desperate.
#8
i dont trust any politition (omg can't spell it tried loads of ways this one will do lol) they all lie, i aint got a clue who to vote for lol
#9
localshop
what a shame wiping floors won't pay for all the banking sector cock ups

read this and see if you still think he is a leader you want

http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/press_68_07.htm


I wasn't making a comment either way about whether I wanted him as a leader or not. But I will say this - I'd much prefer him to Davis Cameron. As Brown made clear today, Cameron is a man of little substance indeed. He has very few coherent policies - all he can do is attempt to personalise the issues and mock the government. A leader needs to be able to do much more than that. If I had to have a Conservative government, I'd rather see someone like William Haig as leader. But I'd rather have a Liberal government than a Tory one tbh, but again with a different leader. They chose the wrong man in the recent run-off imo.
#10
ants97
brown didn't answer any questions as per and is ignoring everything cameron has asked him going off on his pre planned attacks on the torys that really havn't any relevence to camerons questions.


That's why he was so brilliant today though. He point blank refused to answer the irrelevant questions that Cameron asked. Why is she still in the cabinet? The man is a walking tabloid. No substance, just vacuous tripe and mockery.

EDIT: and I'm going to add that point to the OP. I should have explained why I think he did so well at PMQ (for a change, I should add!)
#11
Liddle ol' me
That's why he was so brilliant today though. He point blank refused to answer the irrelevant questions that Cameron asked. Why is she still in the cabinet? The man is a walking tabloid. No substance, just vacuous tripe and mockery.

EDIT: and I'm going to add that point to the OP. I should have explained why I think he did so well at PMQ (for a change, I should add!)


It is entirely relevant when the govt is paralysed by the labour party being on the verge of civil war with cabinet ministers openly criticising both the leader of the country and the partys direction.
#12
ants97
It is entirely relevant when the govt is paralysed by the labour party being on the verge of civil war with cabinet ministers openly criticising both the leader of the country and the partys direction.


More relevant than say ... I dunno ... looking for policies and ways out of current problems? Do you honestly think Cameron would be doing a better job if he was in charge atm? I don't.

And Labour is bound to go through these convulsions since they are on the wrong side of the voters atm, and are all panicking now that it is virtually certain they will lose the next election. But that doesn't make Cameron the better choice. See my added comments on the OP for what I think of him!

As you can see though, I'm probably biased on this one! :-D
#13
"I watched most of it live, along with the highlights and live commentary on and off. Maybe I'll get more into the conversation if you stop being a childish little bitch because I happened to state I didn't agree with you?"

Are you off shool today or something..?
suppose children will be children..
good luck to you anyhow
#14
Liddle ol' me
More relevant than say ... I dunno ... looking for policies and ways out of current problems? Do you honestly think Cameron would be doing a better job if he was in charge atm? I don't.

And Labour is bound to go through these convulsions since they are on the wrong side of the voters atm, and are all panicking now that it is virtually certain they will lose the next election. But that doesn't make Cameron the better choice. See my added comments on the OP for what I think of him!

As you can see though, I'm probably biased on this one! :-D


No because they govt is paralysed in acting on the current problems because the labour party is tearing itself apart as the slow realisation of its legions of champagne socialist backbenchers and cabinet ministers hit that they'll be off the gravy train in a year or so.

That wasn't your orignal question, I thought we were discussing how well or poorly brown performed today at pmq's not on whether or not cameron is the better choice. However I do agree with you on william hague. He'd be a much better leader of both the country and the tory party than either cameron or osbourne(that takes nothing away from cameron though). His previous time in charge was just to early for him and he was always going to be onto a hiding for nothing considering the shambles he inherited.
#15
I dispise the torries, and ITV are quite clearly tory biased.

I feel the torries have ruined the country so many times, but lately the screw ups of Gordon Brown have not helped himself.

Camerons full of rubbish.
#16
Liddle ol' me
I wasn't making a comment either way about whether I wanted him as a leader or not. But I will say this - I'd much prefer him to Davis Cameron. As Brown made clear today, Cameron is a man of little substance indeed. He has very few coherent policies - all he can do is attempt to personalise the issues and mock the government. A leader needs to be able to do much more than that. If I had to have a Conservative government, I'd rather see someone like William Haig as leader. But I'd rather have a Liberal government than a Tory one tbh, but again with a different leader. They chose the wrong man in the recent run-off imo.


mmmn something definitely a bit sexy about Hunhe IMO :thumbsup:
#17
vibeone
It's funny how you can have a completely different opinion to someone else isn't it Liddle.

Sorry don't agree.


no offense but if your going to disagree atleast state your reasons instead of calling him a bitch, it makes you look childish.
#18
ants97
No because they govt is paralysed in acting on the current problems because the labour party is tearing itself apart as the slow realisation of its legions of champagne socialist backbenchers and cabinet ministers hit that they'll be off the gravy train in a year or so.

That wasn't your orignal question, I thought we were discussing how well or poorly brown performed today at pmq's not on whether or not cameron is the better choice. However I do agree with you on william hague. He'd be a much better leader of both the country and the tory party than either cameron or osbourne(that takes nothing away from cameron though). His previous time in charge was just to early for him and he was always going to be onto a hiding for nothing considering the shambles he inherited.


Yes, I can agree with you on a lot of this. It's also true that Blair brought in a few too many Champagne socialists. Look at him now ... a real champion of the working class, eh? :roll:

And yes, Haig was wasted at that time. But he has also matured in the meantime, and I can see a time coming when his party may turn to him again. (Doesn't that sound clichéd?!). I can't think of a single other person in the party with either the gravitas or the experience to lead them. But I may be wrong - I don't follow them very closely.

Adam2050
I dispise the torries, and ITV are quite clearly tory biased.

I feel the torries have ruined the country so many times, but lately the screw ups of Gordon Brown have not helped himself.

Camerons full of rubbish.


Never watch ITV so can't comment, but yes to all the other points! :thumbsup:

WoolyM
mmmn something definitely a bit sexy about Hunhe IMO :thumbsup:


Stop lowering the tone :) but yes, I can see where you are coming from there. He's a very charming and handsome man. But since I'm not sexually attracted to men, I'll have to judge him on his brain - and he comes across as a lot smarter than Nick Clegg. In fact, Clegg is like Cameron-Lite for me, and that's saying something! How do you get lighter than vacuous? :thinking:
#19
Liddle ol' me


He's a very charming and handsome man. But since I'm not sexually attracted to men, I'll have to judge him on his brain -


Seems to have one of those as well. Comes across as very thoughtful, well considered and makes his points well
#20
Adam2050
I dispise the torries, and ITV are quite clearly tory biased.

I feel the torries have ruined the country so many times, but lately the screw ups of Gordon Brown have not helped himself.

Camerons full of rubbish.


finally somone thats speaks sence

good on u sir:thumbsup:

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