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In Pain!!! Can anyone help???

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8y, 4m agoPosted 8 years, 4 months ago
Hello Lovelies....

I really need some advice here... I suffer from sciatica and have done for the past 4 years. It seems to be spurts of pain every few weeks however I've been to the doctors, had MRI scans and they can't seem to find out what is causing the pain. I have also tried physio but nothing seems to help. In the past week I have had constant pain that over the counter painkillers won't even touch. I have been considering alternative therapy but I dont know wether to go for Accupuncture, Accupressure or alternatively see a Chiroprator. My local GP is not allowed to give advice on alternative theraphy however i know it can be pricey. I need to find a good and reputable chiropractor or chinese doctor who won't just rip me off but is actually going to make the quality of my life a lot better. I'm only 27 years old and far to young to be suffering with this for much longer.

Can anyobody speak form expereience or knowledge to guide me in the right direction. I am looking for personal reccomendations... So anywhere in north/north west london and south herts would be ideal for me.

All advice welcome....

Many thanks x x x
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8y, 4m agoPosted 8 years, 4 months ago
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#1
accupunture!
I fractured my neck in an accident,have had 7 years of grief from it,tried physio,hydrotherapy,holistic and herbal remedies and in the end accupunture,I swear by it and I'm chit scared of needles.

Good luck I know first hand what its like living with constant pain,give it a try and I really hope it works for you as it does for me
#2
have you tried looking for any specific websites, maybe some forums out there for people who suffer from the same!
[helper]#3
I had a friend who suffered back problems. She tried chiropractors, osteopaths and as a last resort went for acupuncture. It was the only thing that helped. She was so impressed she decided to train to become an acupuntcurist......

Can't recommend one though as it was a while ago....
#4
Alot of people have recommended accupuncture... does it hurt?
#5
I have friends with the same problem. Neither has found a 'cure' but one is benefitting a bit from being referred to 'Pain management' on the NHS by his GP. The other finds that swimming helps because she sort of stops holding herself strangely to minimise the pain. I have found acupuncture helpful but not for this particular problem. Acupuncture doesn't hurt at all and is very relaxing.
#6
I've looked on Video Jug, as well as specialist websites... i really need unbiased reccomendations as alternative therapy doesnt come cheap. It so easy to get ripped off unless you know someone who has had traetment that has been sucessful
#7
I had really bad sciatica 10 years ago. The company I worked for sent me to a Chiroprator but to be honest thought he was useless. I paid out of my own pocket to visit a osteopath and after the first 45 minute session felt a major improvement and just one visit later was able to go back to work. Also like Mardyass says I have heard nothing but rave reviews about accupunture, never tried it as i too am scared to death of needles.

Good Luck!!!
#8
Miss Money Penny
Alot of people have recommended accupuncture... does it hurt?

Well considering my fear of needles i can honestly say it is an odd sensation,you can feel "heat" coming off the needles and one needle I had put in my foot felt like someone had punched me in the back! it is instant relief,some needles feel a little uncomfy but certainly dont hurt
#9
i went to a chiropracter who realigned my spine with a hammer and it did wonders. I still have back pain sometimes usually caused by stress and then sleeping funny. Much better than the osteopath who did the same sort of thing but without the same success. it was expensive but worth it imo. have also had accupuncture and chinese massage and while the chinese massage has also been good I would say the chiropracter helped the most in that situation. Ive also had reflexology which is also lovely
#10
I had really horrendous sciatica for 2 years when I was 18. Luckily I seemed to grow out of it, and except for a short period following a car accident I haven't had it at all in the last 7 years.

When I did get it it was so bad I couldn't sleep at all and like you, no over the counter painkillers would touch it. The only thing that ever worked for me (and it worked incredibly well) was a TENs machine. These interrupt the pain message being sent to the brain.

TENS machines were incredibly expensive a few years ago, but just checked Boots website and you can get one for £25 - http://www.boots.com/shop/product_details.jsp?productid=1014549&classificationid=1046392

I honestly couldn't recommend it highly enough.
#11
chesso
I have friends with the same problem. Neither has found a 'cure' but one is benefitting a bit from being referred to 'Pain management' on the NHS by his GP. The other finds that swimming helps because she sort of stops holding herself strangely to minimise the pain. I have found acupuncture helpful but not for this particular problem. Acupuncture doesn't hurt at all and is very relaxing.

I was under the chronic pain management team,every time I went they wanted to shovw these huge great needles that were the size of spears in my neck lol
Tried it once and god never again!
#12
It's a really difficult situation as part of helping yourself is actually knowing what the problem is or being diagnosed...however i'm failing miserably with both and know for sure that I can't keep ignoring the pain. I need to try and find a way of helping myself. Does anyone know roughly how much accupuncture should cost per session?
#13
Miss Money Penny
It's a really difficult situation as part of helping yourself is actually knowing what the problem is or being diagnosed...however i'm failing miserably with both and know for sure that I can't keep ignoring the pain. I need to try and find a way of helping myself. Does anyone know roughly how much accupuncture should cost per session?
mine is done via my local doctors surgery and its on the nhs :thumbsup: find a local surgery who has a trained accupunturist as a doctor,theres 3 surgerys in my town that have one
#14
ok guys... Im being sold on accupuncture so far. I dont have a phobia of needles at all... however I have a really low pain threshold and run away shy from anything that might suggest being uncomfortable.

However.... Can it really be anymore painful than what i'm going through now?
#15
littletiger
I had really horrendous sciatica for 2 years when I was 18. Luckily I seemed to grow out of it, and except for a short period following a car accident I haven't had it at all in the last 7 years.

When I did get it it was so bad I couldn't sleep at all and like you, no over the counter painkillers would touch it. The only thing that ever worked for me (and it worked incredibly well) was a TENs machine. These interrupt the pain message being sent to the brain.

TENS machines were incredibly expensive a few years ago, but just checked Boots website and you can get one for £25 - http://www.boots.com/shop/product_details.jsp?productid=1014549&classificationid=1046392

I honestly couldn't recommend it highly enough.

Yup i agree, i was given physio on the NHS at my local hospital. The physion used a brillant TENS machine there that was real expensive at the time. Only way to describe it was like a metal detector. She would run it over my back and when she was over an accupuncture spot the thing would bleep like crazy she would then touch that area with the machine for few secs and begin again.
She said it was exctly like accupuncture but w/o the needles .
#16
Miss Money Penny
ok guys... Im being sold on accupuncture so far. I dont have a phobia of needles at all... however I have a really low pain threshold and run away shy from anything that might suggest being uncomfortable.

However.... Can it really be anymore painful than what i'm going through now?
exactly! believe me my first session I was sweating like crazy had dodgy belly etc before i even got in the car to go! it was worry over nothing,I love going now as I know that after the needles i will have a few days free of pain (I have it weekly btw)
#17
also my physio advise me against ibruprofen gels etc as they masked the pain. So a bouncer i knew recommended red tiger balm ( you can get in tesco pharmacy if you ask also seen in £1 shops really cheap)
Its similiar thing to deep heat and can help ease the pain and the massage from your partner good too.
It was the only thing that took edge off pain in the 6 weeks took me to get my referral to physio but by no means a cure. But cheap thing that might help until you get proper help.
The bouncer said he uses it alot as on feet all day so prone to aches and pains
#18
Two things about a TENS machine...

1) It only blocks pain messages to your brain...so short term its great however I need to address the underlying issue... I need something a little more long term.

2) Secondly... I trained as a beauty therapist years ago... am I right in thinking a TENS machine is similiar to a Faradic body toning machine which release's electrical pulses to your muscles? If so.... god help me!!! When I trained on this machine... I screamed on the lowest setting! Its a strange feeling... TENS Machine?? I've got no chance! LOL
#19
Oh yes good old tiger balm!!!! Being indian myself I was born with a jar of this in my right hand. Every asian person i know uses tiger balm for everything!! LOL

Headache...tiger balm, back ache...tiger balm.... hand pain....tiger balm... you name it... tiger balm will fix it!!!
#20
Is it pricey?... do you mind me asking how much you pay?
#21
Miss Money Penny
Two things about a TENS machine...

1) It only blocks pain messages to your brain...so short term its great however I need to address the underlying issue... I need something a little more long term.

2) Secondly... I trained as a beauty therapist years ago... am I right in thinking a TENS machine is similiar to a Faradic body toning machine which release's electrical pulses to your muscles? If so.... god help me!!! When I trained on this machine... I screamed on the lowest setting! Its a strange feeling... TENS Machine?? I've got no chance! LOL


Yes, I agree it doesn't fix the problem, but it does help you to carry on everyday life until it does get fixed. Unfortunately I have no idea what a Faradic machine is so can't help with that one. Before I got the TENs machine the only thing that helped was heat, so I had a hot water bottle on the go all the time. Unfortunately it got to the stage where I had to make it hotter and hotter to block the pain messages and eventually I burnt my own skin - after that the TENs machine was childs play!
#22
littletiger
Yes, I agree it doesn't fix the problem, but it does help you to carry on everyday life until it does get fixed. Unfortunately I have no idea what a Faradic machine is so can't help with that one. Before I got the TENs machine the only thing that helped was heat, so I had a hot water bottle on the go all the time. Unfortunately it got to the stage where I had to make it hotter and hotter to block the pain messages and eventually I burnt my own skin - after that the TENs machine was childs play!



Im sure a TENS machine would be a great help. I might give it a try seeing as they are pretty reasonable in price.
#23
power gel (ketoprofen) contains ibuprofen and is a good gel to massage into the painful area,you can get it over the counter and i use it inbetween my accupuncture sessions
#24
Thank you all for your advice.... I'll keep you posted on whatever route I decide to take. So far I think accupuncture has to be a safe bet!
#25
Keep posting your advice and suggestions as I will keep checking back!

Thanks again :)
#26
Miss Money Penny
Is it pricey?... do you mind me asking how much you pay?



missmoney were asking me if something was pricey?? the actual machine my physio used was over £100 to buy few years ago but as another person said you can get that from places like lloyds pharmacy for £25. I didnt buy the machine because i thinkwas £140 at the time and was nervous that i spend all that and then hubby wouldnt use it right.
And cool that you think tigerbalm is good cos i was at the point where i knew if i popped any more pain killers i be ill from all of them in my system
The treatment i ahd was free on NHS
#27
Miss Money Penny
Oh yes good old tiger balm!!!! Being indian myself I was born with a jar of this in my right hand. Every asian person i know uses tiger balm for everything!! LOL

Headache...tiger balm, back ache...tiger balm.... hand pain....tiger balm... you name it... tiger balm will fix it!!!


lol my father inlaw uses it for everything (he even tried it for toothache strange man) he was first introduced to it by one of the guys he worked with on the rigs. Unfortunatly the stuff you get over here doesn't seam as potent as the stuff he used to get from Asia.

I can sympathise with your pain have thought on several occations about accupuncture but am so afraid I always back out. My dad used to get it to treat his Gout and said it was the most amazing thing ever
#28
Hi Miss MP,
I read your post with interest as I am also a sufferer. I'd like to say unfortunately from reading your post it seems that you have 1- lost confidence in your "illness' 2- have not had a proper diagnosis.
I dont know when you had your scan or how often you visited your doctor but I find unacceptable that doctors cant find what is causing the pain??? Surely if they investigate well enough there must be some clues with your scans and your movements/clinical history and so on??
Firstly and foremost I would recommend that you go and see your doctor again * or a different one * and tell them exactly how you feel. If you are in so much pain that over the counter medication dont provide any relief then you have the right to be prescribed stronger painkillers. Not as a solution, but as a relief whilst this gets resolved.
Again physio didn't work for me either (and that' s because it seems to me that they use the same exercises for ALL forms of back ache!) but again if you let your doctor know he has a duty to follow it up and take it to the next level. He may refer you to the Pain Management Clinic and they may be able to help you. If the doctor doesnt hear from you he will dismiss the case none the wiser of your situation and how much pain you are suffering. But REMEMBER it can get worst so don't be dismissive!
On personal experience I would recomend:
Not to visit Chiropractor or any alternative medicine especially where they manipulate your back since you have not had a diagnosis this could be more armful than not.
Stay mobile, long walks and swimming really help.
Tens machine are ok and dont worry about the pain because if you are in so much pain then you wont feel the tens at all in the lower settings. However dont over do it as they may hurt after a while as your nerves became sensitive to them.
Really pay attention to your posture and bending forward especially when for example ironing, washing plates, hoovering and so on.
I heard the Bowen Technique is quite good and non invasive, i think it will cost around £35/40 for 45 minutes, but dont take anyone's word for it, do some research first and before booking with anyone check if they are registered practitioners and give them a call for some advice, it will help you make your mind up.

By the way, just to give you an understanding of my opinion, I have a slipped disk that is causing me a lot of pain and I am clinically a chronic sufferer. I am on and off on oramorth and zomorph and on other medication to keep the pain down.

Good luck and let us know how it goes. Remember you are important and have a right to be treated and not to be in pain. Dont give up and go pester your doctor!
banned#29
The trouble with non-specific chronic (usually back) pain is that the causes are always psycho-social i.e. personal problems, work life, depression. Its not like a broken bone where the cause and treatment is obvious.
One thing you must NOT do is rest, that is actively harmful. Anti-inflammatories are what most doctors would prescribe (ibuprofen etc) and please dont give up on them.
Of all complementary interventions, acupressure seems to please patients the most. This is like acupuncture without needles. This editorial in the British Medical Journal (the entire issue of which deals with chronic back pain and is well worh reading) says it better than I can:
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/332/7543/680
To be honest is galls me to recommend complementary medicine when I know its just theatrical placebo (and bloody expensive) but it sometimes works.
Osteopaths and chiropractors are not worth bothering with- they may have a veneer of respectability but they are not doctors, not medically trained, their methods and rationale contradict 200 years worth of medical evidence and they are there to make money.
TENS machines are not medical devices thats why they are operated by beauty therapists and not doctors. They just dont work; the 'science' on which they are based is fraudulent and fanciful and contradicts 500 years worth of evidence in physics, chemistry and biology.
Please go back to your doctor and tell him you need better help. I implore you;please dont blow a load of money on snake oil treatments being sold by charlatans (there are so mant to choose from).
#30
Hi , I've just come back from my chiropractor and slightly dissagree with the poster above "chiropractors are not worth bothering with ". It was a chiropractor who put me back to work after serious back problems , a cough or a sneeze would instantly drop me to the floor . I couldn't walk or turn and could spend up to a week lying on my back . That seems to be sorted now but just before last Christmas I began getting pains in my left side joints ........hip ,kneecap and ankle . It's turned out to be a trapped nerve and boy is it painfull .
My doctors did NOTHING but prescribe me with tablets , no scan's , no physiotherapy and I have spent a small fortune at the chriopractors this year alone .It was suggested last month that I try the NEEDLES . I would'nt have none of it , thinking of the negative things .......what happens if he hit's a nerve ? I might get paralised ? . Anyway , I've tried it today with no problems . He also suggests a form of meditation ......... just sitting and relaxing and deep breathing . I am going to try this . I'll try anything to get me back to full fitness .
I'm 50 , male and allways considered my self to be fit , had lots of manual jobs and have been painter & decorator for over 30 years .But having this trapped nerve thing has knocked me for six , I've lost time from work and have lost quite a bit of work this year , but I'm determined to beat this and with the help of my chiropractor I'm sure I will . So, a GOOD chiropractor can be very helpfull and can give you alternative things to try . In the meantime , get some books from the library on the subject or read up on the internet about some of the things you can do to help . Hope you get better .
banned#31
ricko
Hi , I've just come back from my chiropractor and slightly dissagree with the poster above "chiropractors are not worth bothering with ". It was a chiropractor who put me back to work after serious back problems , a cough or a sneeze would instantly drop me to the floor . I couldn't walk or turn and could spend up to a week lying on my back . That seems to be sorted now but just before last Christmas I began getting pains in my left side joints ........hip ,kneecap and ankle . It's turned out to be a trapped nerve and boy is it painfull .
My doctors did NOTHING but prescribe me with tablets , no scan's , no physiotherapy and I have spent a small fortune at the chriopractors this year alone .It was suggested last month that I try the NEEDLES . I would'nt have none of it , thinking of the negative things .......what happens if he hit's a nerve ? I might get paralised ? . Anyway , I've tried it today with no problems . He also suggests a form of meditation ......... just sitting and relaxing and deep breathing . I am going to try this . I'll try anything to get me back to full fitness .
I'm 50 , male and allways considered my self to be fit , had lots of manual jobs and have been painter & decorator for over 30 years .But having this trapped nerve thing has knocked me for six , I've lost time from work and have lost quite a bit of work this year , but I'm determined to beat this and with the help of my chiropractor I'm sure I will . So, a GOOD chiropractor can be very helpfull and can give you alternative things to try . In the meantime , get some books from the library on the subject or read up on the internet about some of the things you can do to help . Hope you get better .

Get some medical books or read the BMJ that I linked earlier. As you said yourself, chiropractors cost a small fortune and they are not medically trained, they are just business people who need to make money.
Your doctor should prescribe physiotherapy for you, that costs nothing.
Incidentally, a 'trapped nerve' is just an expression, you dont seriously think that an actual nerve is trapped somewhere in your back do you?! Same with a 'slipped disc' (you didnt actually think some sort of disc had slipped did you!) , these are phrases to describe back pain of unknown origin with psycho-social causes.
Dont pay money to snake oil salesmen- get help from medically-trained doctors who are not out to releive you of your money in recurrent doses
1 Like #32
Mascherano
Get some medical books or read the BMJ that I linked earlier. As you said yourself, chiropractors cost a small fortune and they are not medically trained, they are just business people who need to make money.
Your doctor should prescribe physiotherapy for you, that costs nothing.
Incidentally, a 'trapped nerve' is just an expression, you dont seriously think that an actual nerve is trapped somewhere in your back do you?! Same with a 'slipped disc' (you didnt actually think some sort of disc had slipped did you!) , these are phrases to describe back pain of unknown origin with psycho-social causes.
Dont pay money to snake oil salesmen- get help from medically-trained doctors who are not out to releive you of your money in recurrent doses



I m sorry but I have to correct; you are wrong. I have a "slipped disk" and the pain is not of unknown origin but caused by the rupturing of the tissue that separates the vertebral bones of the spinal column. When the disc has herniated or ruptured, it may create pressure against one or more of the spinal nerves which can cause pain, weakness or numbness,

I can actually see the tissue coming out of my vertebrae when I look at my MRI scan! So it is not of unknown origin.

Now since you have proved not to know anything about the subject you should quitly disappear instead of insulting people with REAL sufferings and conditions with your half truths!
#33
I second that , Bikebarbie ,I've never read so much $hi*e in all my life. I'll print those insulting comments off and give them to my chiropractor so he can have a laugh .
Anyway , the acupuncture I had yesterday has worked wonders . No pain in the lower back area and I can bend without problems .The pain in the leg region is stil there though but is not as bad .That was the first time I've had the needles and have always dismissed the idea of acupuncture can do any good , well I was wrong ..................rather like Mascherano's comments.
banned#34
ricko
I second that , Bikebarbie ,I've never read so much $hi*e in all my life. I'll print those insulting comments off and give them to my chiropractor so he can have a laugh .
Anyway , the acupuncture I had yesterday has worked wonders . No pain in the lower back area and I can bend without problems .The pain in the leg region is stil there though but is not as bad .That was the first time I've had the needles and have always dismissed the idea of acupuncture can do any good , well I was wrong ..................rather like Mascherano's comments.


You know that you dont really have enery channels running through your body dont you? You know that chi or whatever they call it doesnt exist dont you? you know that chiropractors and acupuncturists give you results by PLACEBO EFFECT dont you?
Educate yourself on back pain- see how brain function images show that the pain is manifested in different areas to normal pain (like when you stub you toe). See how 90% of the time it has no physical basis. how many times do you people need telling! its PSYCHO-SOCIAL in cause, anyone who claims otherwise is probably making money off you. Look in todays Times for a good overview in laymans terms if you cant be bothered to read the medical literature. I'm trying to save you people money, thats what the site is about- next you'll be telling me youre gonna try homeopathy!! Look up the word 'science'- that would be a good start
#35
Bikebarbie
Hi Miss MP,
I read your post with interest as I am also a sufferer. I'd like to say unfortunately from reading your post it seems that you have 1- lost confidence in your "illness' 2- have not had a proper diagnosis.
I dont know when you had your scan or how often you visited your doctor but I find unacceptable that doctors cant find what is causing the pain??? Surely if they investigate well enough there must be some clues with your scans and your movements/clinical history and so on??
Firstly and foremost I would recommend that you go and see your doctor again * or a different one * and tell them exactly how you feel. If you are in so much pain that over the counter medication dont provide any relief then you have the right to be prescribed stronger painkillers. Not as a solution, but as a relief whilst this gets resolved.
Again physio didn't work for me either (and that' s because it seems to me that they use the same exercises for ALL forms of back ache!) but again if you let your doctor know he has a duty to follow it up and take it to the next level. He may refer you to the Pain Management Clinic and they may be able to help you. If the doctor doesnt hear from you he will dismiss the case none the wiser of your situation and how much pain you are suffering. But REMEMBER it can get worst so don't be dismissive!
On personal experience I would recomend:
Not to visit Chiropractor or any alternative medicine especially where they manipulate your back since you have not had a diagnosis this could be more armful than not.
Stay mobile, long walks and swimming really help.
Tens machine are ok and dont worry about the pain because if you are in so much pain then you wont feel the tens at all in the lower settings. However dont over do it as they may hurt after a while as your nerves became sensitive to them.
Really pay attention to your posture and bending forward especially when for example ironing, washing plates, hoovering and so on.
I heard the Bowen Technique is quite good and non invasive, i think it will cost around £35/40 for 45 minutes, but dont take anyone's word for it, do some research first and before booking with anyone check if they are registered practitioners and give them a call for some advice, it will help you make your mind up.

By the way, just to give you an understanding of my opinion, I have a slipped disk that is causing me a lot of pain and I am clinically a chronic sufferer. I am on and off on oramorth and zomorph and on other medication to keep the pain down.

Good luck and let us know how it goes. Remember you are important and have a right to be treated and not to be in pain. Dont give up and go pester your doctor!


hello bikebarbie
my partner has had back problems for 4 years firstly he was told it was sciatica and was referred to a physio which did not help at all,so from there he was just given painkillers (kapak) but due to him working and having responsibility of our children whilst i worked he had to stop taking them during the day as he would feel sleepy and stoned on them
so he has just lived with it for he past 4 years in agony but for the last 2 months the pain has progressed and he feels he cant cope with it anymore so i forced him to visit doc again(we are now with a new doctors practice),

the1st doc again said sciatica,but a week later he saw a different doc who said he thinks my partner has a slipped disk or several slipped disks so he has now been referred to the orthapedics and trauma team at wrexham.the doc said he needs an mri scan which he said he should of had a long time ago.he was suprised that my partner was in pain every day where as sciatica comes and goes,so he said he thinks the slipped disk is causing sciatica and he said he thinks he will have to have surgery on his back due to his age (32) the pain is not just in his back its in his buttock,shin and foot

my partner has been of work for a month so far and he is in no fit state to return to work,we have 5 children and are worried about loss of income so we would appreciate any advice on managing the pain whilst awaiting his appointment (22 week waiting list) as he cant take the pain killers whilst looking after our children
#36
Bikebarbie
Hi Miss MP,
I read your post with interest as I am also a sufferer. I'd like to say unfortunately from reading your post it seems that you have 1- lost confidence in your "illness' 2- have not had a proper diagnosis.
I dont know when you had your scan or how often you visited your doctor but I find unacceptable that doctors cant find what is causing the pain??? Surely if they investigate well enough there must be some clues with your scans and your movements/clinical history and so on??
Firstly and foremost I would recommend that you go and see your doctor again * or a different one * and tell them exactly how you feel. If you are in so much pain that over the counter medication dont provide any relief then you have the right to be prescribed stronger painkillers. Not as a solution, but as a relief whilst this gets resolved.
Again physio didn't work for me either (and that' s because it seems to me that they use the same exercises for ALL forms of back ache!) but again if you let your doctor know he has a duty to follow it up and take it to the next level. He may refer you to the Pain Management Clinic and they may be able to help you. If the doctor doesnt hear from you he will dismiss the case none the wiser of your situation and how much pain you are suffering. But REMEMBER it can get worst so don't be dismissive!
On personal experience I would recomend:
Not to visit Chiropractor or any alternative medicine especially where they manipulate your back since you have not had a diagnosis this could be more armful than not.
Stay mobile, long walks and swimming really help.
Tens machine are ok and dont worry about the pain because if you are in so much pain then you wont feel the tens at all in the lower settings. However dont over do it as they may hurt after a while as your nerves became sensitive to them.
Really pay attention to your posture and bending forward especially when for example ironing, washing plates, hoovering and so on.
I heard the Bowen Technique is quite good and non invasive, i think it will cost around £35/40 for 45 minutes, but dont take anyone's word for it, do some research first and before booking with anyone check if they are registered practitioners and give them a call for some advice, it will help you make your mind up.

By the way, just to give you an understanding of my opinion, I have a slipped disk that is causing me a lot of pain and I am clinically a chronic sufferer. I am on and off on oramorth and zomorph and on other medication to keep the pain down.

Good luck and let us know how it goes. Remember you are important and have a right to be treated and not to be in pain. Dont give up and go pester your doctor!


Thank you so much for your advice. I will try and book another doctor's appointment. I know the pain won't just go away. It's has got to a point were the level of pain is affecting the quality of my life as and as a result my social life is non existant. :cry:

I am researching acupuncture as an alternative treatment but I wanted some advice before i go ahead. My first step is to go back to the doctor and be persistant, if they still fail to point tm in the right direction then I may try a chinese doctor instead. I hear alot of good things about eastern medicine/practice. Its only a matter of time before I find a traetment that will help.

Its a common problem therefore not everyone that suffers from sciatica is going to sit back and accept the pain! :friends:
#37
edjaned
hello bikebarbie
my partner has had back problems for 4 years firstly he was told it was sciatica and was referred to a physio which did not help at all,so from there he was just given painkillers (kapak) but due to him working and having responsibility of our children whilst i worked he had to stop taking them during the day as he would feel sleepy and stoned on them
so he has just lived with it for he past 4 years in agony but for the last 2 months the pain has progressed and he feels he cant cope with it anymore so i forced him to visit doc again(we are now with a new doctors practice),

the1st doc again said sciatica,but a week later he saw a different doc who said he thinks my partner has a slipped disk or several slipped disks so he has now been referred to the orthapedics and trauma team at wrexham.the doc said he needs an mri scan which he said he should of had a long time ago.he was suprised that my partner was in pain every day where as sciatica comes and goes,so he said he thinks the slipped disk is causing sciatica and he said he thinks he will have to have surgery on his back due to his age (32) the pain is not just in his back its in his buttock,shin and foot

my partner has been of work for a month so far and he is in no fit state to return to work,we have 5 children and are worried about loss of income so we would appreciate any advice on managing the pain whilst awaiting his appointment (22 week waiting list) as he cant take the pain killers whilst looking after our children



Dear edjane,

sorry to hear about your partners back problems and the issues it brought along.
I can give you my opinion and a few suggestions but unfortunately I dont have any medical background and all I learned is due to self study and research firstly because I like to be educated by what is effecting me so much and secondly and unfortunately due to the lack of efficiency from the NHS where for the second time around I had to self diagnose my condition.
Once again the failure to take my sympthoms and medical issue seriously along with the lack of action has now made me a chronic back pain sufferer.
I was in so much pain that I started being careless and since none of the over the market prescriptions where working I would take them with alchool to try and have some effect. I could not sleep for months, could not turn in bed or lay down straight. Needed a walking stick to support me and felt like some sort of cancer the pain was coming from so deep within me!
Like your partner is on my hip, buttock, behind my knee (as if I was doing stretching exercises) my calf and on the outside of my foot and underneath by my toes very sharp pins and needles.

So anyone who felt and is feeling this sort of pain would in desperation try anything from acupunture to chiropractor, osteopath, homeotherapy, acupressure, acupunture, bowen teqniques, you name it. I for one dont care what gives me relief from pain as long as it goes away! If like our friend Mascherano says it's Placebo effect (if that's his opinion I can respect that but is arrogance and ignorance to expect everyone to follow his beliefs and he should respect ours too) then be it as long as it can get rid of the pain even for 5 minutes!!!

I had the MRI scan done privately because I got fed up waiting on the NHS and thank God I did! When I had it done I had to come out of the "tube" because I was in so much pain I was screaming with tears running down my face. When I came out took some zomorph (morphine tablets) and went back in 1/2 hour still in pain the only reason I pulled through is that the radiologist tricked me into believing that there were only 2 minutes left, then another 2 and so on.

I am 34 and this year have been off work around 3 months. I am lucky my employer understand that I am a genuine case suffering from a serious condition so they are very supportive but this does not help the psycological effects of guilt for not being there, pressure for the loss of income/
depression and loss of confidence because of the pain,

All I can say is be strong because 1- he is not alone in this situation 2- he has you please be supportive and be there as much as you can for him 3- there are people in a lot worst situation and is true - we may be in pain but we will survive this 4- it will get better but once we do we just need to learn our limits what we can and what we cant do.

As suggested to Miss MP get your partner to be as mobile as possible. Obviously in moderation but dont let him lay in bed or on the sofa for hours, that will make him worst. He needs to remain fit and strong if he takes too much rest he will only become weaker and more prone to back problems.

Surgery is not an option for me at this stage but if he has been referred for this find out what type of surgery he will have and do some research about it.
Whilst he waits for the appointment if the pain is so grave then he needs to ask stronger painkillers and ask to be referred to the Pain Clinic, they could helop - I am waiting for my appointment in 6 weeks time.
I am now also on Gabapentin as the pain caused nerve damage and it has helped a lot, perhaps if he mentions this to his doctor he can advice if is suitable for him??

Sorry for the long post but I hope that he finds some relief from reading this. All the best xx BB
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Dear edjane,

sorry to hear about your partners back problems and the issues it brought along.
I can give you my opinion and a few suggestions but unfortunately I dont have any medical background and all I learned is due to self study and research firstly because I like to be educated by what is effecting me so much and secondly and unfortunately due to the lack of efficiency from the NHS where for the second time around I had to self diagnose my condition.
Once again the failure to take my sympthoms and medical issue seriously along with the lack of action has now made me a chronic back pain sufferer.
I was in so much pain that I started being careless and since none of the over the market prescriptions where working I would take them with alchool to try and have some effect. I could not sleep for months, could not turn in bed or lay down straight. Needed a walking stick to support me and felt like some sort of cancer the pain was coming from so deep within me!
Like your partner is on my hip, buttock, behind my knee (as if I was doing stretching exercises) my calf and on the outside of my foot and underneath by my toes very sharp pins and needles.

So anyone who felt and is feeling this sort of pain would in desperation try anything from acupunture to chiropractor, osteopath, homeotherapy, acupressure, acupunture, bowen teqniques, you name it. I for one dont care what gives me relief from pain as long as it goes away! If like our friend Mascherano says it's Placebo effect (if that's his opinion I can respect that but is arrogance and ignorance to expect everyone to follow his beliefs and he should respect ours too) then be it as long as it can get rid of the pain even for 5 minutes!!!

I had the MRI scan done privately because I got fed up waiting on the NHS and thank God I did! When I had it done I had to come out of the "tube" because I was in so much pain I was screaming with tears running down my face. When I came out took some zomorph (morphine tablets) and went back in 1/2 hour still in pain the only reason I pulled through is that the radiologist tricked me into believing that there were only 2 minutes left, then another 2 and so on.

I am 34 and this year have been off work around 3 months. I am lucky my employer understand that I am a genuine case suffering from a serious condition so they are very supportive but this does not help the psycological effects of guilt for not being there, pressure for the loss of income/
depression and loss of confidence because of the pain,

All I can say is be strong because 1- he is not alone in this situation 2- he has you please be supportive and be there as much as you can for him 3- there are people in a lot worst situation and is true - we may be in pain but we will survive this 4- it will get better but once we do we just need to learn our limits what we can and what we cant do.

As suggested to Miss MP get your partner to be as mobile as possible. Obviously in moderation but dont let him lay in bed or on the sofa for hours, that will make him worst. He needs to remain fit and strong if he takes too much rest he will only become weaker and more prone to back problems.

Surgery is not an option for me at this stage but if he has been referred for this find out what type of surgery he will have and do some research about it.
Whilst he waits for the appointment if the pain is so grave then he needs to ask stronger painkillers and ask to be referred to the Pain Clinic, they could helop - I am waiting for my appointment in 6 weeks time.
I am now also on Gabapentin as the pain caused nerve damage and it has helped a lot, perhaps if he mentions this to his doctor he can advice if is suitable for him??

Sorry for the long post but I hope that he finds some relief from reading this. All the best xx BB


thank you for all your advice and the time you have spent writing replies :)
he is going to ask about the pain clinic and the drugs above u have mentioned,we have filled in a form for the dla so hopefully we should get aa little bit of financial help from them for the time being
janet x

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