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Increasing energy costs

WoolyM Avatar
8y, 3m agoPosted 8 years, 3 months ago
Am I just being wasteful or is everybody in same boat.

My electricity bill arrived today. It is almost exactly double the cost of my previous quarters bill, which was almost double the cost of the quarter before. I am with EDF (where Gordon Browns brother works). Are all the electricity companies costs increasing at the same rate. I have not taken steps as yet to forward fix my energy costs and am not sure whether to jump to another supplier or to stay put and attempt to get a better deal from my current supplier.

Thing thats a bit disconcerting is that this is a summer bill.
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8y, 3m agoPosted 8 years, 3 months ago
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#1
Yeah all the major electricity and gas suppliers are upping their prices, best to check out MSE (moneysavingexpert.com) forums to get up to date info on price increases etc.
#2
Stop using the tumble dryer and instead of using standby switch off :thumbsup:
#3
I have changed to low energy lights and thought I was being careful. If this keeps on I can see myself taking weekly (or maybe daily) readings of the meter. Its more than ridiculous.
#4
I have had to revert to buying oil filled radiators to heat up my home come the Winter time..was putting the central heating on which was heating up the whole home..but since I am mostly in my bedroom on evenings I thought it more wise just to heat my bedroom up rather than the whole house.
#5
what does gordons brown's brother do/?

i have never had him to read my meter.
#6
if you can freezes your prices, the best time to do it is summer, i work for Centirca Energy (owners of British gas) in the summer they buy gas for a cheap price and pump it into the ground trough all the summer months, then in winter they pump it back out but charge a bit more for it, so in summer the prices are cheaper, therefore it’s the best time to freeze your prices.
banned 1 Like #7
bet the bill was estimated so give them proper readings and request a new bill
#8
csiman
bet the bill was estimated so give them proper readings and request a new bill


good idea. i have just got an estimate and i was in credit. that's ANOTHER job to do today.
#9
ross123540
if you can freezes your prices, the best time to do it is summer, i work for Centirca Energy (owners of British gas) in the summer they buy gas for a cheap price and pump it into the ground trough all the summer months, then in winter they pump it back out but charge a bit more for it, so in summer the prices are cheaper, therefore it’s the best time to freeze your prices.


so have you frozen your price? cos i have heard not to freeze.
#10
csiman
bet the bill was estimated so give them proper readings and request a new bill


what happens if i over estimate a reading and phopne them up with this reading?

is there any advantage to this?
#11
For quite some time now I've been monitoring my electricity usage and with the costs going in the wrong direction I would look into trying to limit the amount of energy your household consumes. So I now switch off completely the cooker, microwave and stereo as they were always on having a clock display which over the course of the year all adds up. When I use the cooker I try and fill the oven and then freeze the individual meals to 'nuke' on another day. I did cap my prices following moneysavingexpert.com advise, but you could always look around to see if there is another provider who's rate is lower than your current one.
banned#12
I couldn't be without a fire place.. have gotten used to it over the past few years.

Nothing like it on a cold winters night watching something on TV with the glowing light emanating (jealous much?) :lol:.
banned#13
berni888;2875048
For quite some time now I've been monitoring my electricity usage and with the costs going in the wrong direction I would look into trying to limit the amount of energy your household consumes. So I now switch off completely the cooker, microwave and stereo as they were always on having a clock display which over the course of the year all adds up. When I use the cooker I try and fill the oven and then freeze the individual meals to 'nuke' on another day. I did cap my prices following moneysavingexpert.com advise, but you could always look around to see if there is another provider who's rate is lower than your current one.

the savings there will be very small (about 10p per year!).

best ways are to do other obvious things like:-

1. have a mug when filling the kettle and only pour in enough to make the number of mugs you want.

2. turn thermostat down on your hot water cylinder. Amazing how many people have this set to 80 degrees and add cold when filling the sink, bath etc. Set it to 40 degrees to start and move it up if not warm enough

3. Put your computer to sleep when not using it, even just for 10 minutes. Only takes 3 seconds to wake it up.

4. turn TV off when leaving the room, even for 10 minutes.

5. Always wash clothes with a full load

6. try and use airing cupboard / outside to dry. Using a tumble dryer just once per day costs £100+ a year!

7. get a fridge and freezer thermometer to check not too cold (freezer -18, fridge 4 degrees)

8. defrost frozen food in the fridge overnight

9. and NEVER have a fridge or freezer outdoors in an outbuilding as uses far more energy, especially in winter (they have to heat an element up to cool the thing down!).
banned#14
blackpeppa;2874979
what happens if i over estimate a reading and phopne them up with this reading?

is there any advantage to this?

only if they havent already gone through the latest round of price increases
#15
csiman
the savings there will be very small (about 10p per year!).

9. and NEVER have a fridge or freezer outdoors in an outbuilding as uses far more energy, especially in winter (they have to heat an element up to cool the thing down!).


i never knew this one!!!!

i thought i was being clever storing all my BOGOFs in a the freezer in the garage.

perhaps i could put some insulation around it in the winter????
#16
we for this exact reason downsized, we were in a 2 bedroom flat in a really old building and it was ALWAYS cold. and cost rather a few quid to heat.

So we decided to move across the water from the wirral to liverpool because we both work there for a start to a 1 bedroomed newly built apartment in the heart of the city.

so we cut out around 140 pounds in travel expenses a month and have less to heat, and with it being a new build its always warm so in the winter we are going to be using very little in terms of heat.

Also theres a balcony which got a clothes airer instantly (bizarrely not many others use out door airers despite having balconys) ((im sure they soon will though)

but prices are becoming insane, but i think society nowadays is alot lazier and greedier and reliable on energy "because its simple" for example the dishwasher.....
banned#17
blackpeppa;2875413
i never knew this one!!!!

i thought i was being clever storing all my BOGOFs in a the freezer in the garage.

perhaps i could put some insulation around it in the winter????

Still probably better off with the bogofs vs energy consumption. do not wrap anything around it as they need ventilation so you would create a fire hazard. A garage is ok assuming built on to the house. Its sheds etc which are worst.

also, always keep a freezer full (especially upright ones). Stops all the cold air rushing out when you open it. If you dont have enough food then just put some empty sealed tupperware boxes or even crushed up newspapers in the spaces.
#18
blackpeppa
i never knew this one!!!!

i thought i was being clever storing all my BOGOFs in a the freezer in the garage.

perhaps i could put some insulation around it in the winter????


Is it so that the heat from the freezer heats the inside of the house csi?

Otherwise you're better off with it outside as it will be easier for the freezer to get down to temperature.
banned#19
Benjimoron;2875751
Is it so that the heat from the freezer heats the inside of the house csi?

Otherwise you're better off with it outside as it will be easier for the freezer to get down to temperature.

no, a freezer has to heat freon via a compressor etc so being in the cold garage, it consumes more electricity.

besides which, it will invalidate any warranty if the fridge or freezer packs in. It needs to be in room temperature to operate efficiently.
#20
csiman
no, a freezer has to heat freon via a compressor etc so being in the cold garage, it consumes more electricity.

besides which, it will invalidate any warranty if the fridge or freezer packs in. It needs to be in room temperature to operate efficiently.


Isn't it just trying to get rid of that heat as efficiently as possible? ie most efficient in the cold?
#21
csiman
Still probably better off with the bogofs vs energy consumption. do not wrap anything around it as they need ventilation so you would create a fire hazard. A garage is ok assuming built on to the house. Its sheds etc which are worst.

also, always keep a freezer full (especially upright ones). Stops all the cold air rushing out when you open it. If you dont have enough food then just put some empty sealed tupperware boxes or even crushed up newspapers in the spaces.



you are clever, aren't you!
banned#22
Benjimoron;2875910
Isn't it just trying to get rid of that heat as efficiently as possible? ie most efficient in the cold?

No, it is trying to evaporate the water vapour within the air in the freezer and the heating elements are outside of this so will take more energy in a cold environment. Thats why the back of a fridge gets warm. :thumbsup:
banned#23
blackpeppa;2876257
you are clever, aren't you!

Not really, I just use google to find out info and am good at retaining what I have read.

Others on here call me a know it all ;-)
#24
csiman
Not really, I just use google to find out info and am good at retaining what I have read.

Others on here call me a know it all ;-)


I prefer to call you something else, under my breath!
banned#25
Benjimoron;2876640
I prefer to call you something else, under my breath!

I'll try not to imagine!

My hearing isnt that good so you can speak up ;-)
#26
GerryG
Yeah all the major electricity and gas suppliers are upping their prices, best to check out MSE (moneysavingexpert.com) forums to get up to date info on price increases etc.


I thought martins most recent advice was to wait until all of the suppliers had upped their prices before switching or fixing. But good point as their may be some out there that have not heard of mse.

blackpeppa
what does gordons brown's brother do/?
i have never had him to read my meter.


http://www.nuclearspin.org/index.php/Gordon_Brown
Gordon Brown brother is EDF Energy's Head of Press

ross123540
if you can freezes your prices, the best time to do it is summer, i work for Centirca Energy (owners of British gas) in the summer they buy gas for a cheap price and pump it into the ground trough all the summer months, then in winter they pump it back out but charge a bit more for it, so in summer the prices are cheaper, therefore it’s the best time to freeze your prices.


Interesting point

csiman
bet the bill was estimated so give them proper readings and request a new bill


A meter reader read my meter about a week before bill arrived. The bill was indeed estimated but when I read the meter it was lower than the reading showing on the bill. So in effect bill should actually be a higher price. With costs continuing to increase I am considering asking them to rebill me for the correct ammount so that I dont pay for extra units next time at even higher rate but may just let it go. Good point about Bogofs and freezer storage. Chatting with friend about this the other day. It may get to the point that bogofs are not economic to freeze.

Supposedly got an energy efficient fridge freezer. Bought it last year and supposed to have good energy rating. I must admit I forget to unplug mobiles and standbys. I have been considering getting one of those energy monitors for a while now so I can work out exactly where I am consuming the most energy. Anyone know of any good deals?
Prefer working on pc than laptop and also cos although laptop has wifi I have never used wifi and need to investigate steps to get it online. I have a hardwired broadband connection at present. Using the laptop would probably be more energy efficient than pc with screen, speakers, etc.
When I posted this I thought it was abit of a whinge thread really but it has generated some useful advice - thanks everyone
banned#27
WoolyM;2876764

A meter reader read my meter about a week before bill arrived. The bill was indeed estimated but when I read the meter it was lower than the reading showing on the bill. So in effect bill should actually be a higher price.

no - the bill should be lower if the bills esimated readings are higher than yours.
banned#28
WoolyM;2876764

Prefer working on pc than laptop and also cos although laptop has wifi I have never used wifi and need to investigate steps to get it online. I have a hardwired broadband connection at present. Using the laptop would probably be more energy efficient than pc with screen, speakers, etc.
When I posted this I thought it was abit of a whinge thread really but it has generated some useful advice - thanks everyone

make sure you have the laptop plugged into the mains rather than the battery
#29
csiman
no - the bill should be lower if the bills esimated readings are higher than yours.


A meter reader read my meter but when bill came it said it was estimated. Has an E beside it. I took another look at the meter to see how it compared but the actual up to date meter reading was above the one estimated on the bill.
#30
csiman
I'll try not to imagine!

My hearing isnt that good so you can speak up ;-)


I wouldn't be so sure, you don't know how close I live!!!!!
#31
WoolyM
A meter reader read my meter but when bill came it said it was estimated. Has an E beside it. I took another look at the meter to see how it compared but the actual up to date meter reading was above the one estimated on the bill.


Ah, you said lower last time.
#32
Benjimoron
Ah, you said lower last time.


yeah ok. ;-) I probably confuse myself much more than I could possibly confuse another. :-D
#33
WoolyM
yeah ok. ;-) I probably confuse myself much more than I could possibly confuse another. :-D


I'm confused!
#34
My bills are okay. Thankfully. Although they are only capped until 2010. I pay just £62 a month for gas and leccy together, and that's for a family of 4. We are careful though, and follow most of the top tips on here.

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