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9y, 2m agoPosted 9 years, 2 months ago
Having put off doing my "tax doesnt have to be taxing" self assessment form and believing I could do it online I have just tried to register to fill mine in online and got the message that I need a pin to be able to do it - this is being sent out BY POST and will take approx 7 DAYS!!!! WHY OH WHY OH WHY in this world on modern technology and the like does the government need to rely on ROYAL MAIL!!!! cant they just email me my pin like loads of other organisations do??? it is SO frustrating!
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9y, 2m agoPosted 9 years, 2 months ago
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#1
Aquatic
this is being sent out BY POST and will take approx 7 DAYS!!!!

Plus another 2 weeks most likely post strikes while they play catch up! Or even more im still receiving stuff that was held up by the last round of striking!
#2
I've only just starting doing my tax form now aswell, I just hate forms!!
#3
looks like i'll have to rub out all those pencil lines on the original one and send it in after all! Either that or a trip to the tax office in the morning to get a fresh form
BOO hiss!!!!!!! :(

ANYONE KNOW IF I CAN DOWNLOAD THE PDF FILE AND USE THAT ONE????
#4
Lol, I'm an accountant, if you think them posting a pin is frustrating imagine what my entire life is like!

In addition I guess your hoping to get the return in so they will calculate the tax for you. In which case your too late, going to the tax office in the morning will count as an October return. If you are trying to get the return in today your best bet is to rub out the pencil and fill in that return then drive it to the local tax office and drop it through the letterbox.

Otherwise you might as well wait for the pin and file online. As something like 80% of returns are completed in Dec/Jan you'll still be ahead of the rush!
#5
Iom-RF
I've only just starting doing my tax form now aswell, I just hate forms!!


How does someone who does not work fill in a tax form? :thinking: They sent me one once and I asked them what I was supposed to do with it? Light a fire :giggle: After a little more talking they agreed I did not need to fill one in :roll: Never been asked again :whistling:
#6
Crazy1
How does someone who does not work fill in a tax form? :thinking: They sent me one once and I asked them what I was supposed to do with it? Light a fire :giggle: After a little more talking they agreed I did not need to fill one in :roll: Never been asked again :whistling:



hahahahahahahahahahaha :giggle:
#7
Crazy1
How does someone who does not work fill in a tax form? :thinking:


:giggle:
#8
A couple of years ago I started to (try to do) the online form, but gave up & went to the local tax office instead - except that I wasn't allowed to just walk in, I had to phone the main building in Cardiff & ask to make an appointment; they then told me that my nearest available office was in the town where I lived & I could go see them if I wanted to! So back I went to the local office & was told that I had to phone Cardiff etc - eventually I managed to get Cardiff to book an appointment for me so I could visit the local office & not have them turn me away.

THEN...months later, having been in to the local office & filled in a paper tax return (with their help) & left it with them to deliver to Cardiff, I got a letter from Cardiff telling me that as I hadn't completed my on-line form I would now be fined!!!! Back to the local office (eventually, after ringing Cardiff to make an appointment etc etc etc!!!); they pulled up my computer record which showed that I HAD completed & submitted the form, so they rang Cardiff to find out what the chuffing heck was going on!

The local office they asked me why I was self-assessed - I told them that it was at their insistence 2 years previous! When I got home my wife asked me why I looked as though I was at the end of my tether:x

MORAL OF THE STORY: Don't even register for the on-line version unless a.) you intend to complete the whole form on-line or b.) are prepared to accept a fine for not completing it!:giggle:
#9
Crazy1
How does someone who does not work fill in a tax form? :thinking:


Its for the previous year isn't it....

From April 06-April 07, So I was taxed for a whole year, Even I thought you'd be able to work that one out!! :roll:
#10
Iom-RF
Its for the previous year isn't it....

From April 06-April 07, So I was taxed for a whole year, Even I thought you'd be able to work that one out!! :roll:


I won't know, it's not me they are after :giggle: :giggle:
#11
Crazy1
I won't know, it's not me they are after :giggle: :giggle:


Well what amused me more was the fact people laughed above at your reponse, its not hard to work out i'd be taxed for the last year!

Of course if they've never seen a tax form its understandable I suppose. :)
#12
actually i was self employed myself not that long ago


oh and im studying accountancy so i think i know whats what ta :)
#13
Iom-RF
Well what amused me more was the fact people laughed above at your reponse, its not hard to work out i'd be taxed for the last year!

Of course if they've never seen a tax form its understandable I suppose. :)

i have worked since the age of 16 (so for many years) and have always been employed by a company , i have never personally had to fill out a tax return as i have not been self employed.
#14
WELL ITS IN
but its in at the local office so i dont know whether that counts or not. but after filling everything in i ended up with peanuts anyway so maybe the job isnt worth it!
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WELL ITS IN
but its in at the local office so i dont know whether that counts or not. but after filling everything in i ended up with peanuts anyway so maybe the job isnt worth it!


Yep, case law says that as long as its at an Inland Revenue office your fine, its HMRC's problem to get it to the right office. And as long as its in the postbox when they open it on the 1st of October it counts as 30 September.
#16
Cool! never done this before. Mum said she'd read something about as 30th sept was a sunday there was leeway till midday but at least now i dont need to worry!
#17
Deadlines for Tax Returns :

[COLOR="Red"]30th Sept 07[/COLOR] - paper versions to be received by this date if you want them to calculate your tax

[COLOR="Red"]30th Dec 07[/COLOR] - online returns due in

[COLOR="Red"]31st Jan 08[/COLOR]- final deadline for filing paper version - also final deadline for receiving tax due in the 2006/07 tax year and 50% of the tax due for the 2007/08 tax year (if you pay over a certain amount of tax - sorry, can't remember the figure :? )

[COLOR="Red"]1st Feb 08[/COLOR] - £100 penalty incurred automatically if it's not in yet



The online version is much easier than the paper version, it calculates everything for you as you go and saves you reading through pages of questions that don't apply to you. Although it's a pain to set up, once it's done your Tax Return shouldn't take you very long each year.

:thinking: boring mode switched off now :giggle:
#18
[QUOTE=JakJak]Deadlines for Tax Returns :



[COLOR="Red"]30th Dec 07[/COLOR] - online returns due in

[COLOR="Red"]31st Jan 08[/COLOR]- final deadline for filing paper version - also final deadline for receiving tax due in the 2006/07 tax year and 50% of the tax due for the 2007/08 tax year (if you pay over a certain amount of tax - sorry, can't remember the figure :? )

[QUOTE]

Sorry slight correction to the above. 30 December deadline is only if you want HMRC to calculate your tax. 31 January is the ultimate deadline for tax returns if you want to calculate your tax.

Also if filing the paper return you can file it on the 1st February as long as its there before HMRC open the post box.

The 1st payment on account is due if you don't pay your tax through PAYE and your previous years tax bill was over £500.

Don't try and out bore an accountant. :p

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