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Internal Samsung BD Cyberlink says not HDCP? im Going nuts

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5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
Hey
I have a LG m227wdj which on the web it says its HDCP.
I have a graphics card, XFX 8600GT which has the latest drivers and it too says it has HDCP.

When I put a Blu-ray in it says error 0107. need vga and cannot connect to digital device.

I downloaded a trial on anydvd hd and it strips the code and it plays fine.

Seen lots of threads about this, but no one said they got it working,

What is going on, I am not paying 70.00 for anydvd hd, and my screen and card is hdcp. I tried dvi to dvi and dvi to hdmi and still no luck

I have the Samsung SH-B123 which is compatible for windows 7.

There must be something I am doing wrong, I am pulling my hair out, I even did a free trial of cyberlink 10 and it still wont play and the advisor says everything is fine apart from the digital connection, but tried both dvi to dvi and dvi to hdmi

PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME


OH PS:
I tried my pc downstairs on my new LG 42" and same error?

And the advisor for cyberlink says this:

It says video connection type: digital (without hdcp)

But above it says graphics card 8600gt : Pass
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5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
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#1
The 8600GT is HDCP capable but NOT HDCP compliant by default. Terminology is very important in consumer electronics and computer equipment and it's typical marketing scam from brands and manufacturers (well, actually not a scam in the true sense of the word but maybe unethical). Does the specification say HDCP capable or HDCP compliant? It would probably be futile speaking to XFX since they are not the OEM of the card and are likely not to have a clue as to what they are saying. nVidia would give you an answer (most likely to tell you that by default the 8600 GT isn't HDCP compliant by default) but you will be hard pushed extracting a response from them.

I am quite sure that the graphics card you have is HDCP capable but NOT HDCP compliant just like a Ford Fiesta is 200 mph capable (with a suitable engine).

Edited By: ElliottC on Dec 14, 2010 23:43: .
#2
Just following on from what Elliot said, I do recall there being some faff around the time of the 8000 series where GPUs were HDCP capable, but the outputs weren't, or something absurd like that. It's something I read on a forum so it might well be incorrect, but, hey, worst case scenario, spend that £70 on a 2TB external harddrive instead of AnyDVD, and then you can avoid all the other DRM bugs that spoil the viewing of people honest enough to pay for things.
banned#3
I have a m227wd and a m227wdp (I think they are just variations on your model)

Needless to say, it's 100% hdcp compliant
#4
vibeone
I have a m227wd and a m227wdp (I think they are just variations on your model)Needless to say, it's 100% hdcp compliant

But a stock 8600GT graphics card isn't.
#5
dxx
Just following on from what Elliot said, I do recall there being some faff around the time of the 8000 series where GPUs were HDCP capable, but the outputs weren't, or something absurd like that. It's something I read on a forum so it might well be incorrect, but, hey, worst case scenario, spend that £70 on a 2TB external harddrive instead of AnyDVD, and then you can avoid all the other DRM bugs that spoil the viewing of people honest enough to pay for things.

I don't think the GPUs are HDCP compliant as HDCP is imbedded in the interface and I understand that the latest PowerDVD overcomes AnyDVD's circumvention although I am not going to reveal how. Both DRM and HDCP are inventions by people with underdeveloped minds, in my opinion.

HDCP is one of the most ridiculous technologies I have ever known. Everything in the chain must be HDCP compliant and it forces each device to authenticate itself using repeater bits for each device in the chain. It is claimed that this prevents piracy but that does not hold water since piracy involves decrypting the protected data on a storage medium. Pirates do not care about HDCP but consumers lose out having to ensure full compliancy and extra expense. The real winner is Intel whose bosses continue to line their pockets with the licensing of HDCP to manufacturers and the consumers who are coerced into ensurring compatibility with HDCP products. Apple and Microsft, you should take a leaf out of Intel's books and line your pockets further with ridiculous technologies. The pirates continue to laugh and Intel, Apple, MS continue to laugh and us poor consumers battle away with ensuring compliancy, unmuddling deliberately confusing terminology by the brands and trying to obtain value for money. The more these greedy companies are exposed, the better.
#6
dcx_badass
dxx
Just following on from what Elliot said, I do recall there being some faff around the time of the 8000 series where GPUs were HDCP capable, but the outputs weren't, or something absurd like that.
http://lolmart.com/files/2010/07/orly.jpghttp://i54.tinypic.com/346xowj.jpg

It depends on what you have purchased. The default 8600GT isn't HDCP compliant as it is usually an optional extra. This may be the case for the XFX 8600GT and if it is described as HDCP capable, HDCP compatible, HDCP upgradable, HDCP extendible or similar in the specifications then that could mean a number of things.

Dxx has posted a very useful comment and there are issues with HDCP compliancy with'some of these cards and it is has not been made clear to many that HDCP is an option on many cards with this GPU.

I'm not sure why the one-upmanship as he hasn't stated anything extraneous.
#7
dcx_badass
I have an XFX 8600GT and am 80% sure it supports HDCP. What does the nvidia display show for HDCP, it show similar to my pic? Probably a bug in power dvd, it's pretty crappy.I've also had nvidia 7 series cards that support hdcp aswell.

I am not entirely sure since HDCP could be reported in the firmware which GPU-Z would read but PowerDVD uses a repeater bit check from the DVI port. Like yourself I cannot confirrm this but HDCP is a strict specification which PowerDVD does adhere to whereas I suspect GPU-Z just reads firmware information, much like CPU-Z. Have you tried blu ray playback using Arcsoft's TotalMedia (trial version will do) as it would be interesting to determine how that checks for HDCP compliancy.
#8
For the OP, some interesting reading here:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1207096
#9
dcx_badass
Well my 8800GT is definately working with HDCP to both my screens one DVI - DVI, and the other DVI-HDMI, and both Powerdvd 7.3 and the latest Arcsoft can play HD-DVDs with HDCP fine with it. Unfortunately next time I have the 8600GT and a HDCP screen together will be April so can't check that.

HD DVDs are not HDCP protected and PowerDVD 7.3 is less stringent than the latest version which is the verrsion the OP is using. The real test is playback of Blu Ray using PowerDVD 10 or Arcsoft's Totalmedia Theatre using an XFX 8600GT. Unfortunately I don't have an XFX model in my possession but I understand that HDCP is an option. You have the hardware to test but I don't.

Edited By: ElliottC on Dec 15, 2010 00:57
#10
dcx_badass
HD-DVDs are HDCP protected as is Powerdvd 7.3, I know this as my 6 series nvidia card couldn't play them with Powerdvd 7.3 as it wasn't HDCP compatible.

No the HD DVD is very unlikely to be protected. It's the 6 series graphiccs card that breaks the HDMI chain. PowerDVD won't even allow unprotected HD DVD to play on hardware that do not possess HDCP decryption. Try ripping a Blu Ray film and strip the AACS protection then encompass it within a Blu Ray ISO. With non HDCP compliant hardware, PowerDVD (especially version 10) will complain.
#11
Actually I am wrong, HD DVD is AACS protected but the protection is weak, so weak that Nero 8's player could play them:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/hd-dvd-copy-protection-in-tatters/223

Edited By: ElliottC on Dec 15, 2010 01:28: .
#12
I've found out that the issue almost certainly is the 8600GT card. PowerDVD's check for HDCP compliancy follows the standards very well. Any graphics card that meets the HDCP specifications right to the last detail will be recognised as so by PowerDVD. It doesn't make sense if graphics card A is specified as HDCP compliant and fails the test whereas graphics card B is HDCP compliant and passes the test. One of them must be incorrectly specified as HDCP compliant because compliancy is very tightly defined.

In Dcx_Badass's case, he is using PowerDVD 7.3 and I understand that does not perform the correct checks and Nero 8 Showtime is even worse.

Now there is a workaround without having to purchase AnyDVD HD. The steps are:

1. Download and install Media Player Home Cinema. If you have 64 bit OS, you can use the 64 bit version but I am not sure if the 64 bit version offers greater performance since 64 bit integer numbers requires twice the data storage so although faster to process, it takes more time to read and write the numbers to memory or cache.
2. In Explorer, navigate through the Blu Ray folder structure to the "Stream" folder. I think, from memory, it is in BMDV\Stream.
3. You will see files with the MTS extension. Look for the largest file which is the main movie. Right click that file and select "Open With".
4. Click the Browse button and navigate to the location of the Media Player Classic Home Cinema executable. Again from memory, it is something like "Program Files\MediaPlayerClassic\MPC-HC.exe". You will know what to look for when you navigate the Program Files directory.
5. Click OK and Media Player Classic Home Cinema will play the file and the good thing is that it does not care if your equipment is not HDCP compliant. If you want to allow MPCHC to be associated with MTS file, then at the stage where you selected the executable to open with, tick the checkbox to notify Windows that you want to make this association. This means that in future, you can just double click an MTS file to play.
6. This also applies to HD DVD films but rather than playing MTS files, locate the largest EVO file and play that.
7. Sometimes there may be 2 or more large MTS or EVO files. This is the film being spread over dual layer or more of a disc in which case play one of them followed by the other.

If playback is choppy then let me know and I can advise how to use PowerDVD's own CODECs used in conjuction with DXVA hardware acceleration for smooth playback.


EDIT: Sorry this won't work because even though the HDCP is bypassed, the MTS files are still AACS encrypted. Here is a guide to decrypt the files for plaback using MPCHC that enables both forms of protection to be bypassed:

http://www.pavtube.com/guide/rip-play-blu-ray-m2ts-files-with-media-player-classic-home-cinema.html

Note it is illegal to circumvent AACS encryption. The software used is legal and downloading it is legal but the actual use for the purpose of decryption isn't legal so I leave it to your conscience as to whether you use the software or not.

Edited By: ElliottC on Dec 15, 2010 11:54: .

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