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Ipswich player out of order - reprimand??

holly100 Avatar
8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
footballer has been criticised for a "handcuffs" goal celebration apparently in support of a jailed drink-driver.

Ipswich Town midfielder David Norris crossed his wrists, an apparent message for former team-mate Luke McCormick.

Ex-Plymouth goalkeeper McCormick was jailed for seven years for causing the deaths of Aaron Peak, 10, and Ben Peak, 8, after drinking at Norris's wedding.

The boys' mother Amanda, of Partington, Greater Manchester, said: "You don't do things like that."

A message on Ipswich Town's website said the club would issue a statement later.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/7719625.stm
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#1
Tim Cahill did the same earlier this year.
#2
forgot to put link up
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/7719625.stm


modoc
Tim Cahill did the same earlier this year.


remember that - wasnt it his brother??

he got fined - i think??
[mod]#3
Its hard to say as he isnt condoning anyones actions. It is just showing support for an old colleague and friend from his Plymouth days.
#4
magicjay1986
Old colleagues and friends from Plymouth.


maybe mg - but in this instance he should not have done it - surely he must feel some compassion for the family
and must realise his mate deserved - if not more - the sentence
#5
flipping heck-did he not see the poor family who were devasted-both boys killed on a day out, and the father left with permenant injuries-if that was my family i'd be running the the pitch next time he played and thumpng him.

I know its not the clubs fault-but isn't that antagonising-don't they have rules about that-i can't type what i think of him !
#6
[QUOTE=lucerysmum]flipping heck-did he not see the poor family who were devasted-both boys killed on a day out, and the father left with permenant injuries-if that was my family i'd be running the the pitch next time he played and thumpng him.

maybe somebody will next time he plays - he'll certainly get booed

mums story in paper last week - very sad

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1083733/After-car-crash-footballer-Luke-McCormick-killed-children-Amanda-Peak-tells-heartbreaking-story.html
#7
If he were to give a weeks wages to the family it might go to show that he's sorry for upsetting the family as he reportedly is saying via the media.
#8
he is out of order
#9
Lets not get over sensitive about these things. Luke McCormick is in Prison serving a sentence for causing death by wreckless driving....and rightly so. True friends stand by friends in times of need. This is not condoning the friends action!. If he had imitated drinking a bottle then driving a car and then crashing, this would obviously be offensive and he should rightly be criticised. He hasn't he has just expressed support for a friend as he did in our local paper last week!.

Last week The Evening Star reported that Norris intended to stay friends with his former teammate.

He said: “Luke is a very good friend of mine and will remain a good friend of mine. I have stayed in touch with him and I will go and visit him in prison. He made a massive mistake and he is paying for that - quite rightly.

“It is still very raw for everyone, especially the family, and I don't want to do anything that causes them upset but Luke is a friend.”
#10
so if he didnt want to causes them upset why do any thing at all
#11
[QUOTE=

Last week The Evening Star reported that Norris intended to stay friends with his former teammate.

He said: “Luke is a very good friend of mine and will remain a good friend of mine. I have stayed in touch with him and I will go and visit him in prison. He made a massive mistake and he is paying for that - quite rightly.

“It is still very raw for everyone, especially the family, and I don't want to do anything that causes them upset but Luke is a friend.”[/QUOTE]


ok he is still his friend - but he should not have made a public display about it
#12
Further to my earlier post here is a response from David Norris.

After Saturday's incident, Norris said: “It wasn't a handcuffs sign it was a private message but I can see how people might have seen it like that and I apologise if it's caused any offence. Luke is a friend of mine. He made a massive mistake and is paying for that.”

Please remember that David Norris did not kill these 2 boys and seriously injure their father...Luke McCormick did !.... and he is where he rightly belongs!.
#13
holly100


remember that - wasnt it his brother??

he got fined - i think??


Yeah it was for his brother who was in jail at the time, don't think he was fined though. I think he apologised and it was all forgotten about.
#14
Yakubu did the same too last year - however nothing was done AFAIK
#15
ajay87
Yakubu did the same too last year - however nothing was done AFAIK


well if it was the under same circumstances - they should have !!
[mod]#16
holly100
maybe mg - but in this instance he should not have done it - surely he must feel some compassion for the family
and must realise his mate deserved - if not more - the sentence


I couldnt agree more. I take a very dim view on drink driving and when peoples lives are lost because of someones sheer stupidity it can NEVER be jusitifed.
All I am saying is, David Norris is just wanting to show some sort of support for his friend and did it in the public eye which is a little silly.
I dont think he sets out to show a lack of compassion, its more a "support" (in the moral sense, not in the appealing).
Still, very silly though.
#17
his just sick ,fill so sorry for the parents
#18
Dougb1
Lets not get over sensitive about these things. Luke McCormick is in Prison serving a sentence for causing death by wreckless driving....and rightly so. True friends stand by friends in times of need. This is not condoning the friends action!. If he had imitated drinking a bottle then driving a car and then crashing, this would obviously be offensive and he should rightly be criticised. He hasn't he has just expressed support for a friend as he did in our local paper last week!.

Last week The Evening Star reported that Norris intended to stay friends with his former teammate.

He said: “Luke is a very good friend of mine and will remain a good friend of mine. I have stayed in touch with him and I will go and visit him in prison. He made a massive mistake and he is paying for that - quite rightly.

“It is still very raw for everyone, especially the family, and I don't want to do anything that causes them upset but Luke is a friend.”


Everyone makes mistakes-and his frend should stand by him-by its hardly 'i don't want to do anything that causes upset for them' by doing what he did. He could have made any signal to his pal-not somethng which, to be honest, rubs people up the wrong way-which he (unless he's thick as pigs***) would have known !
#19
The Saga Continues.....

THE Football Association are today writing to David Norris asking for an explanation regarding his goal celebration at Blackpool.

Norris crossed his arms after netting the winner and admitted it was a private message to his jailed friend Luke McCormick.

The gesture has angered upset family and friends of the two boys killed by McCormick with mother Amanda Peak calling for Norris to be banned.

An FA spokesman today said: “We have written David Norris asking him to explain his actions. We look forward to his response.”

Although the incident is unlikely to be mentioned in referee Clive Webster's report the FA could hit Norris with a disrepute charge and the player is also facing punishment from Ipswich Town.
#20
And Continues....

THE grieving mother of two boys killed in a car crash by a drink-driving footballer has called for David Norris to apologise to her family face-to-face after he made a gesture in support of the jailed player.

Today the boys' mother Amanda said that the gesture was sick and called for Norris to be banned from the club.

This lunchtime she told Sky News: “He's upset everybody. I'm finding it hard to deal with a lot of things at the moment and I'm finding it difficult not to hate Luke McCormick.

“When people are doing silly gestures like that it makes it harder not to.”

She added: “I'd rather he apologised to us face-to-face. Ban him for a game, fine him, anything - but show that they're not in support of drink drivers.

“It's people like that who should think twice about what they are going to do, especially when they are in the public eye.

“I understand that he wants to support Luke, but it was hurtful.”
#21
A message on Ipswich Town's website said the club would issue a statement later.

Lets see what happens next!
#22
ipswich are RUBBISH norwich are the BEST
#23
The ever present "I'm offended brigade", its always a joy that whatever happens these days has to inevitably offend someone or a group of individuals. If it doesn't then interpretation can always help to find something offensive.

I think Happy Hour has already been banned.................and replaced with offended hour.
#24
Footballers are incredibly stupid!

This was a wholly innapropiate public gesture which was obviously going to cause significant offence to a mother who has lost 2 young children and had her husband crippled in a very tragic and avoidable road traffic incident.

If David Norris wanted to support his friend, why didn't he just visit him in jail?
#25
pugw$sh
Footballers are incredibly stupid!


Yes they are, which is why his mates in jail. :roll:

All this fuss amounts to is a journey in futility.
#26
If he wants to show his support for an old friend he should go during visiting hours
1 Like #27
Alfonse
Yes they are, which is why his mates in jail. :roll:

All this fuss amounts to is a journey in futility.


The ever present "offended police", always a joy to have people around to tell us where and when we can feel offended, including in this case, a Mother who recently lost her two sons due to a drink driver.
How do you think a public show of support for this drink driver make her?
less upset
no difference
or more upset

Show support for your friend, but do it privately and respectfully.
#28
smidav
The ever present "offended police", always a joy to have people around to tell us where and when we can feel offended, including in this case, a Mother who recently lost her two sons due to a drink driver.
How do you think a public show of support for this drink driver make her?
less upset
no difference
or more upset

Show support for your friend, but do it privately and respectfully.


What support he is showing though? Are you suggesting he supports the actions of the D&D tragedy or its rather a nod to his mate to say he's thinking of him, hardly thinks that counts as offensive to make an acknowledgement of thought or in any case shows he supports a stupid act which led to his imprisonment.
#29
just seen this on bbc news



An Ipswich Town statement read: "David deeply regrets that his actions have been wrongly interpreted and has written a personal and private letter of regret to Mr and Mrs Peak.

"In hearing the player's explanation, the club also regrets the potential for misinterpretation of the gesture and would love to make a donation to an appropriate charity, equal to the fine imposed on the players."
#30
Alfonse
If it doesn't then interpretation can always help to find something offensive.


:whistling::whistling:
#31
mccormick was driving back from norris' party in the early hours under the influence of alcohol when he smashed into a car recklessly and killed 2 children destroying their parents lives physically and mentally. mccormick commited a huge crime resulting from a party norris had held, the 'gesture' is highly offensive as he is condoning the actions of a killer, any sane person would oppose such apparent support.
#32
Alfonse
The ever present "I'm offended brigade", its always a joy that whatever happens these days has to inevitably offend someone or a group of individuals. If it doesn't then interpretation can always help to find something offensive.

I think Happy Hour has already been banned.................and replaced with offended hour.


I agree for once, its all about the interpretation and overreaction.

Even if its a sign of support for his friend people shouldnt go off the handle and its possible he didnt do it as a way to support his friend.
#33
missismop
just seen this on bbc news

An Ipswich Town statement read: "David deeply regrets that his actions have been wrongly interpreted and has written a personal and private letter of regret to Mr and Mrs Peak.

"In hearing the player's explanation, the club also regrets the potential for misinterpretation of the gesture and would love to make a donation to an appropriate charity, equal to the fine imposed on the players."


It's something I suppose. It would be a little more convincing if he could explain the correct interpretation of his actions.
#34
chesso
It's something I suppose. It would be a little more convincing if he could explain the correct interpretation of his actions.


But why should he though as is it his fault if it is misinterpreted.
#35
ryouga
But why should he though as is it his fault if it is misinterpreted.


Well why not if he's explained it to the devastated family??
Surely it could stop the criticism in its tracks.
That gesture in everyday life means handcuffs doesn't it?
#36
chesso
Well why not if he's explained it to the devastated family??
Surely it could stop the criticism in its tracks.
That gesture in everyday life means handcuffs doesn't it?


I have never seen the gesture before but even if it does theres loads of interpretations, whats wrong with being there for his friends no matter how bad what they did.
#37
Before today most people had never heard of David Norris. This story took headline spot on Century FM and lasted nearly five minutes!!! ahead of the Murder of Rhys Jones!!!. Who has actually offended who here? Is it the Player or the mischieveous journalist who decided to make up the story about the deliberate slurr to the parents of the 2 dead boys? Is this really national news?

Personally I find the finger to the lips goal celebration offensive as it is insulting to deaf people....the baby in the cradle celebration upsets those that have lost a child in infancy and the shirt over the head is distressing for ex prisoners of war who have been interrogated. I am offended that other people can be offended by the 'offended police' for supporting a convicted offender!!!!...
#38
Dougb1
Before today most people had never heard of David Norris. This story took headline spot on Century FM and lasted nearly five minutes!!! ahead of the Murder of Rhys Jones!!!. Who has actually offended who here? Is it the Player or the mischieveous journalist who decided to make up the story about the deliberate slurr to the parents of the 2 dead boys? Is this really national news?

Personally I find the finger to the lips goal celebration offensive as it is insulting to deaf people....the baby in the cradle celebration upsets those that have lost a child in infancy and the shirt over the head is distressing for ex prisoners of war who have been interrogated. I am offended that other people can be offended by the 'offended police' for supporting a convicted offender!!!!...


you think the killing of 2 children is inferior to the killing of rhys jones because ?. jones and the 2 children were killed and no comparison could be made however you even suggest it was a lesser crime than the murder of rhys jones despite mccormich having killed 2 people!. Incase you forgot, the horrific crash -due to the result of a man under the influence of alcohol smashing the speed limit and subsequently killing 2 innocent children- had made the headlines before it became clear that mccormick was the perpetrator.
How can you even try to justify such an open show of support from someone towards a killer ?, unfortunately it seems your opinion had he been a norwich city player would have been quite different.
#39
The gesture was offensive to Mr and Mrs Peak and their family, a family that is still grieving.

How do you think people would feel if I wore a t-shirt sporting a slogan in support of Sean Mercer, the alleged killer of Rhys Jones? Do you think that it would be an over-reaction if people condemned me?

The gesture was quite simply offensive to Mr and Mrs Peak, it wasn't offensive to me, or 55 million other people, but it was an innapropiate gesture in a very public place. And for that he should apologise and advised that as a person in the public eye he has a moral duty. After all the most appropiate way to offer support to his mate would be to regularly visit him in jail.
#40
myaser88
you think the killing of 2 children is inferior to the killing of rhys jones because ?. jones and the 2 children were killed and no comparison could be made however you even suggest it was a lesser crime than the murder of rhys jones despite mccormich having killed 2 people!. Incase you forgot, the horrific crash -due to the result of a man under the influence of alcohol smashing the speed limit and subsequently killing 2 innocent children- had made the headlines before it became clear that mccormick was the perpetrator.
How can you even try to justify such an open show of support from someone towards a killer ?, unfortunately it seems your opinion had he been a norwich city player would have been quite different.


Myaser, please read my previous posts. I have not and would not compare the deaths of children in this or any other circumstance. The dead boys mother has called David Norris a prat and with that I agree. The sign was misguided and was not meant as a direct insult to the grieving parents. David Norris has not killed anyone. How do you know what opinions i have of Norwich City.......by making assumptions i assume.

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