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Is Battlestar Galactica the greatest TV drama ever created?

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I'm pretty sure it is. Didn't outstay it's welcome, action, human drama, social commentary and a lot of sex. If you haven't seen it, see it even if you think sci-fi isn't 'your thing'.
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banned7y, 10m agoPosted 7 years, 10 months ago
I'm pretty sure it is. Didn't outstay it's welcome, action, human drama, social commentary and a lot of sex.

If you haven't seen it, see it even if you think sci-fi isn't 'your thing'.
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banned7y, 10m agoPosted 7 years, 10 months ago
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#1
I don't think it's the greatest ever, but it is certainly up there along with the West Wings and Shields of this world.
#2
No.......
#3
No. By more than a country mile, it wasn't. I couldn't stand it. Star Trek or Blakes 7 were best Sci-Fi for me.
banned#4
kyalion
No. By more than a country mile, it wasn't. I couldn't stand it. Star Trek or Blakes 7 were best Sci-Fi for me.


I meant the 're-imagined' recent one.

The West Wing is absolutely brilliant too, but that dipped in quality after season 4 although the last season was a lot tighter.

The Shield was great, but I lost interest. The Wire is another beautiful show and perhaps the only other show I think comes close to BSG.

But I think BSG is perhaps the most culturally relevant show in the last 10 years.
banned#5
v2drinkers
No :whistling::whistling::whistling:

Alias all the way


Alias isn't even the greatest tv drama created by JJ Abrams.
#6
Ridiculous, everyone knows that House is the greatest TV Drama ever to grace the goggle box
#7
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#8
Not sure about the greatest but definitely one of the most enjoyable. For me it's up there with Deadwood, Sopranos, West Wing and Rome.
#9
And the ending really let the whole thing down for me... too many loose ends left hanging.
banned#10
Celticsun
Ridiculous, everyone knows that House is the greatest TV Drama ever to grace the goggle box


I have seen every episode of House, I love Hugh Laurie and it's not the greatest show ever. It's entertaining without doubt but it's not got the grand narrative scope of BSG, the structure of almost every episode is exactly the same...

that's the reason it's good - it's predictable. It's like any procedural drama so you know that in almost every episode the victim will survive (except for those 2-3 heart wrenching episodes EVERY season where they don't) and due to it's episodic nature and need to make money in syndication it needs to be easy to drop in on without commitment.
banned#11
Jonny_K
Not sure about the greatest but definitely one of the most enjoyable. For me it's up there with Deadwood, Sopranos, West Wing and Rome.


Haven't seen Rome yet. Have the first season but not got round to it so maybe I need to add an asterisk.

The ending was a bit suspect, but only in the bit right at the end. I don't mind loose ends, especially ones of a supernatural nature. I think it did enough to deserve that.
#12
I got bored of the last series of battle star, whats changed thats going to get me back into it?
#13
Rescue me.

Denis Leary rules
#14
FilthAndFurry
I have seen every episode of House, I love Hugh Laurie and it's not the greatest show ever. It's entertaining without doubt but it's not got the grand narrative scope of BSG, the structure of almost every episode is exactly the same...

that's the reason it's good - it's predictable. It's like any procedural drama so you know that in almost every episode the victim will survive (except for those 2-3 heart wrenching episodes EVERY season where they don't) and due to it's episodic nature and need to make money in syndication it needs to be easy to drop in on without commitment.


Jeez, spoil it why don't ya..... :-D

Personally cant stand anything to do with Space and Loath Star Trek and BSG so its all a matter of taste.

I know every so often you think hmmm Dragging this Lupis thing out now, but then comes an episode that just blows me away.

The most recent when Chase has his Stag night..
banned#15
slackrat77
Rescue me.

Denis Leary rules


Not a bad series, but prone to ropey episodes and entire arcs.

I do like that in a thread about a remake of something, someone mentions Bill..oops I mean Dennis Leary.
#16
FilthAndFurry
Not a bad series, but prone to ropey episodes and entire arcs.

I do like that in a thread about a remake of something, someone mentions Bill..oops I mean Dennis Leary.


i never found any ropey eps in rescue me at all.

and as for the bill hicks/leary thing...i stay out of it!
banned#17
Celticsun
Jeez, spoil it why don't ya..... :-D

Personally cant stand anything to do with Space and Loath Star Trek and BSG so its all a matter of taste.

I know they every so often you think hmmm Dragging this Lupis thing out now, but then comes an episode that just blows me away.

The most recent when Chase has his Stag night..


I really do think that the sci-fi bit is easy to get past. It's more like a war movie or Das Boot.

I can't stand Star Trek either.

Also, House is great. I know exactly what I'm going to get with each episode which is why I like it but also why I could skip a few episodes and not care.
#18
nah a terrible 3rd season and a seemingly rushed ending stops it from being amongst the best.

What exactly was kara thrace???????

Caprica has started off really well so who knows maybe that will make up for the nonsensical ending.

start trek tos (1st 2 seasons), star trek tng, enterprise, firefly, chuck, quantum leap( although again rushed ending), tscc, 1st season of heroes, and life on mars are all better.:thumbsup:
#19
To save me having to search the net, how did Quantum Leap finish? Did he get back to his proper time/body eventually?
#20
Lost, if we're talking modern dramas. Not everyone's cup of tea, but I love the way it messes with your mind.
#21
Seems i agree with you...


























some tv IS for people with lower IQ's it seems :p
1 Like #22
Babbabooey
To save me having to search the net, how did Quantum Leap finish? Did he get back to his proper time/body eventually?


nah it involved him leaping into a bar wich was full of people he'd lept into before and a bar tender who may or may not have been god or some theories have even suggested the devil. anyway after some convoluted nonsense about changing destiny and how he has the power to leap where he wants to sam leaps and the show finishes.

It was rushed as they didn't know they were being cancelled then had to change from being a season clifhanger to a series finale when the axe fell.
banned#23
ants97
nah a terrible 3rd season and a seemingly rushed ending stops it from being amongst the best.

What exactly was kara thrace???????

Caprica has started off really well so who knows maybe that will make up for the nonsensical ending.

start trek tos (1st 2 seasons), star trek tng, enterprise, firefly, chuck, quantum leap( although again rushed ending), tscc, 1st season of heroes, and life on mars are all better.:thumbsup:


You mean the third season where BSG became the only show with the cajones to question the morality of a resistance fighting an armed insurgency? It's a brave show that takes everything it was in the first two seasons and completely changes the dynamic.

Kara Thrace - whatever you want her to be.

Chuck isn't as good. It's light and disposable. Star Trek never came close to the Shakespearian levels of tragedy, fate and pathos of BSG.

Heroes first season was one of the best single seasons of television ever created, with some of the best moments. But I think the lack of sustainability it has shown only reinforces how great BSG was.

Life on Mars is a great show, although the questions in that show are very similar to the Kara Thrace questions. Again it's a show that requires a bit of faith and I think it's Britishness perhaps means we give it a bit more love.

But none of these shows attempts the themes that BSG did, takes risks like it did and surprised like BSG did.
banned#24
kyalion
Lost, if we're talking modern dramas. Not everyone's cup of tea, but I love the way it messes with your mind.


Lost could challenge it, depending on it's last series. I think the fact it has chosen to end on a set date gives it a chance to resolve all the ongoing arks. In a year's time I may have changed my mind.

kungfu
Seems i agree with you...
some tv IS for people with lower IQ's it seems :p


Joking aside, I think BSG shows that tv still has the power to create amazing stories.
#25
FilthAndFurry




Joking aside, I think BSG shows that tv still has the power to create amazing stories.


some people get that same buzz you get by watching eastenders :thumbsup:
#26
FilthAndFurry
You mean the third season where BSG became the only show with the cajones to question the morality of a resistance fighting an armed insurgency? It's a brave show that takes everything it was in the first two seasons and completely changes the dynamic.



your right it was brave move but it changed the dynamic of the show for the worst and the writers spent the best part of season 4 trying to get it back on track to the point were virtually nothing that happened in season 3 had any relevance.

they even had to get apollo out of that fake ridiculous fat suit, I mean come on that was terrible.
banned#27
kungfu
some people get that same buzz you get by watching eastenders :thumbsup:


Some people get it licking batteries. Doesn't mean that they're equally worthy.

Just think though, if the BBC cancelled EastEnders and instead put that money towards something truly ambitious.
banned#28
ants97
your right it was brave move but it changed the dynamic of the show for the worst and the writers spent the best part of season 4 trying to get it back on track to the point were virtually nothing that happened in season 3 had any relevance.

they even had to get apollo out of that fake ridiculous fat suit, I mean come on that was terrible.


It's hard to go method in such a short space of time. It was done for a purpose, although I'm not sure a bit of a beard, messy hair and poor posture wouldn't have done the same.

I have to say that the start of season 3 was a bit jarring and I wanted them to get back to the old, familiar BSG. But I think that it's good when a show can challenge it's audience.

It's what Heroes should have done - killed off Peter, Hiro and Claire and eliminated the mess that comes from time travel and a lack of finality in death.
#29
FilthAndFurry


Just think though, if the BBC cancelled EastEnders and instead put that money towards something truly ambitious.


they'd give the cash to john barrowman, graham norton, andrew loyd webber and bruce forsyth to have "celebrities" dance to songs from webbers awful shows every sat and sun all year round with fearne cotton presenting the spin off show every night on bbc 2 and repeated every hour on bbc 3.
#30
FilthAndFurry
Some people get it licking batteries. Doesn't mean that they're equally worthy.

Just think though, if the BBC cancelled EastEnders and instead put that money towards something truly ambitious.


like 4 american, 4 canadian and 2 british actors poncing about in space, yeah sounds class.. remind me to not tune in :thumbsup:
#31
kungfu
like a load of american actors poncing about in space, yeah sounds class.. remind me to not tune in :thumbsup:


Most of the cast of BSG aren't American :thumbsup:
#32
Man, you must have too much time on your hands to watch all this tv, I'm lucky if I've time to switch on the thing at the best of times!!!
banned#33
kungfu
like a load of american actors poncing about in space, yeah sounds class.. remind me to not tune in :thumbsup:


Actually a couple of them are British actors.

Apparently they didn't get the memo that the best british actors must be on Eastenders, and then The Bill.

On a serious note though, it's a great show. It's more than space opera.
#34
Babbabooey
Most of the cast of BSG aren't American :thumbsup:


oh, out of 15 i checked 11 where american 2 canadian 1 brit 1 oz., id class that as a majority :thumbsup:

FilthAndFurry


Apparently they didn't get the memo that the best british actors must be on Eastenders, and then The Bill.




i equally think the shows you mentioned are just as crap as bsg :thumbsup:
#35
[QUOTE=FilthAndFurry]Some people get it licking batteries. Doesn't mean that they're equally worthy.

Just think though, if the BBC cancelled EastEnders and instead put that money towards something truly ambitious.[/QUOTE]

Am I missing something??? Battlestar galactica (I'm assuming by truly ambitious this is what you're referring to) is a tv programme set in space (as I understand it), it's been done a thousand times before, where's the ambition in that??? :whistling:
banned#36
civms47
Man, you must have too much time on your hands to watch all this tv, I'm lucky if I've time to switch on the thing at the best of times!!!


I managed to watch all 4 seasons in about a month. It's terrible, but was worth it.:oops:

That's a combination of having it on in the background whilst 'working', on my laptop and on my ipod. Like Roy Castle said, 'dedication's what you need'.:thumbsup:
banned#37
kungfu
oh, out of 15 i checked 11 where american 2 canadian 1 brit 1 oz., id class that as a majority :thumbsup:




i equally think the shows you mentioned are just as crap as bsg :thumbsup:


Jamie Bamber and James Callis are Londoners. Jamie Bamber really should be a lot more well known than he is.
#38
FilthAndFurry
It's hard to go method in such a short space of time. It was done for a purpose, although I'm not sure a bit of a beard, messy hair and poor posture wouldn't have done the same.

I have to say that the start of season 3 was a bit jarring and I wanted them to get back to the old, familiar BSG. But I think that it's good when a show can challenge it's audience.

It's what Heroes should have done - killed off Peter, Hiro and Claire and eliminated the mess that comes from time travel and a lack of finality in death.


don't disagree with you in principle, change is good but it just didn't work and they couldn't wait to get the crew back on galactica.

As for heroes 100% agree, its became a total mess and as the current trend seems to be for rebooting a franchise or series then a mass cull of the regulars would suffice now that the original writers are back on board, but I doubt it will happen unfortunatly.
#39
Main Cast
Edward James Olmos - American
Mary McDonnell - American
Grace Park - American
Katee Sackhoff - American
TOTAL - 4

Jamie Bamber - English
James Callis - English
Tricia Helfer - Canadian
Michael Hogan - Canadian
Aaron Douglas - Canadian
Tahmoh Penikett - Canadian
TOTAL 6

6 is more than 4 !
banned#40
civms47


Am I missing something??? Battlestar galactica (I'm assuming by truly ambitious this is what you're referring to) is a tv programme set in space (as I understand it), it's been done a thousand times before, where's the ambition in that??? :whistling:


It's kinda like saying Romeo and Juliet is just boy meets girl or The Wire is just another cop show.

It's all about the themes it explores, the characters, the whole drama of it all. It's not even that sci-fi really. It's more like a good old-fashioned was movie.

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