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Is college worth it?

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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
I've got a dilemma,I'm 20 and i'm thinking about going to college to do a BTEC in ICT, but i already know quite abit about ICT (used to build computers) and i am teaching myself c# and other jargon and such, but im wondering if its really worth taking out 2 years of my life to do it and to learn stuff i already know.
I telephoned today and they said that you can still start even though the course has started and such.

My brother who is a software developer say that i shouldn't go and everything i want to know can be learnt at home, i just have to be able to demonstrate it.

Advice?
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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
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#1
well i've started this course three weeks ago if it's national you're doing its 2, if its first then national it's 3.

first year is software dev i believe for all then you can choose your second year.

of course you can learn it all at home and say 'i can do this' but it's not on paper and its the paper they want.

I'd fully recommend it myself. It's an interesting course bar two or three units. I'm in 3 days a week 9 - 4.45.
#2
Think O'driscoll did this course too (he's at uni now) so ask him about it if you're really interested, he knows more about it then me.
#3
Yeah my bro did it
#4
Id recommend working towards a qualification. If you dont have a qualification in ICT employers wont know what level/standard you are at. They may not even consider your application form if you dont meet the minimum entry requirement (ie. a specific qualification). You will probably breeze through the course at college if you have a keen interest in it and since you've been building computers and learning on your own you could achieve a high grade. However, the decision is yours... good luck with your choice! :thumbsup:
#5
Its worth it if you are willing to start from the bottom and work your way up, but being 20 you may want to jump right in to work and earn an average wage the rest of you life unless you catch a lucky break and invent something by accident.
#6
I would say it only worth it if you can gain industry recognised certifications on the course. Otherwise you have wasted a few years on a course that employers do not recognise. Now days most employers want proof of whether you have these qualifications.

Good luck with whatever you choose
#7
Im not interested in going to university however.
#8
dcx_badass
BTECs are carp I wouldn't do one at 20 they're the kinda thing that 15 year olds do with their GCSE's.


Thats what im thinking, i've just had a look at IT jobs in derby and none of them mention qualifications.

My old boss dropped out of college and worked up the "job" ladder and she earned 24k and she was only 28.

I was thinking of doing a NVQ3, which would be better as i can stay in my job
#9
dcx_badass
BTECs are carp I wouldn't do one at 20 they're the kinda thing that 15 year olds do with their GCSE's.


No, not at all, B-Tech's are a great way of leading into HNC's, HND's or even degree's and are valued in the Engineering industry (speaking from experience).

Given the choice of employing someone with a Btech over someone without, it would be Btech every time. It's also unlikley that a college would allow you to take on a HNC/D in a subject you have no previous experience in, so a Btech works well for something to start with.
#10
Its a gateway to university. If you want to go to uni then do the course.
#11
add-man,

t0mm hit the nail on the head by saying holding a formal qualification is better than saying you've learnt something at home. Even more valuable in the ICT world is actually backing up the qualification with practical experience. How would undergoing an apprenticeship in the military (Army/RAF/RN) sit with you? They are screaming out for people in this field. Basically you'll get paid to do the same 2 year college based qualification within 18 months? Sorry if I sound like a recruiting ad, just offering another angle!
#12
deathtrap3000
Its a gateway to university. If you want to go to uni then do the course.


i dont want to go to uni

cg1967
add-man,

t0mm hit the nail on the head by saying holding a formal qualification is better than saying you've learnt something at home. Even more valuable in the ICT world is actually backing up the qualification with practical experience. How would undergoing an apprenticeship in the military (Army/RAF/RN) sit with you? They are screaming out for people in this field. Basically you'll get paid to do the same 2 year college based qualification within 18 months? Sorry if I sound like a recruiting ad, just offering another angle!


Im not into the idea of leaving all my family and friends behind. If you could join the army 9-5 i would be straight there
#13
Then the course wont offer you much more than a qualification for 2 years work.
#14
add-man
i dont want to go to uni



Im not into the idea of leaving all my family and friends behind. If you could join the army 9-5 i would be straight there


So, you do your 2 yr college course and the only prospective employer is 100 miles away? Then what do you do? Being in the forces doesn't mean leaving family and friends behind......all the time! Look at all the options, do a bit of research and make your decision.

Good luck in whatever direction you choose.
#15
basically an employer looks at your cv and thinks if you can't be bothered to do a 2 yrs course what hope has he of trusting you to do a 2yr development project?
#16
Ok to be honest.

1) Doing the course will look better on your CVs, give you better standing in getting a job.
2) Most of the units you will find very very simple, such as Communication and employability skills (Based around you doing presentations, and deciding what skills an employer looks for) creating websites, creating flyers and newsletters etc. The most you will do practically is maybe have a look inside a computer at the different parts and how they work (Which im sure you already know)

It isn't the funnest course in the world (I know i teach it) but it is useful to have on a CV.

There are two core units one of which is the employability skills.

If you want to find out more information on it, a great resource is

[url]www.teach-ict.com[/url]

You can have a look on their and see the types of lessons that will be taught.
#17
As someone just finishing the penultimate year of his computing degree (well, computing and mathematical sciences) I'd say it's a waste of time to bother with anything less as this has just about covered what I'd consider basic computing skills (rather than IT skills). Data structures, time complexity, object oriented programming and similar. Hopefully that'll partly change next year when I get onto the level 3 computing courses (I did one this year, but it was on AI and fairly theoretical rather than a mainstream topic).

If you don't mind learning at home have you considered The Open University? A computing degree will take 3-8 years depending on how much work you do at once (computing courses stop being able to be counted towards a qualification eight years after you've taken them) and depending on how much you earn you can get some or all of the course costs paid for you (completely, not just a loan).
#18
being 20, id rather get a job or apprenticeship were your getting paid+ you can move up the ladder.
#19
Yo what units you guys doing flipping unit 3 is pi$$sing me off
#20
MarzBarz;3029597
Yo what units you guys doing flipping unit 3 is pi$$sing me off

1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and so on.
#21
i did 1,2,3,15,35 cant rememba da last one
banned 1 Like #22
black gerbil1
being 20, id rather get a job or apprenticeship were your getting paid+ you can move up the ladder.


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#23
Applied alevel business is easier !!!
#24
guv;3029644
Sounds ideal.

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#25
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#26
education is important if you dont have a HE qualification then you should get it before you are too old
banned#27
If you dont have a current job in IT then go for the course but look for a placing that may allow part time work in an IT company. I did a BTEC OND in Computing for 2 years and only had to go to college for about 4 hours 3 times a week!
#28
I did a modern apprenticeship at Derby City Council, now im a administrator at the DCC.
banned#29
Nope not worth it, work your way up through the business, swap from jobs to job, as you'll get bored anyhow. Dont bother with college, start earning when you can, and stop sponging off yer parents ;-)
#30
My advice to you is not to do the BTEC course. I would consider a HND/HNC to be entry level at the very best for IT. The BTEC is lower than this. I've never seen any employers ask for this and doubt I ever will.

To work in IT, in my expeirence, IT qualifications such as Oracle, Cisco, PMI, Microsoft, Citrix, A+ etc would be far far more desirable depending in what you want to do in IT. It would also be far cheaper to get as well.

IT certifications can be done via home study with books etc so you can do this in your spare time. Exam cost can be fairly cheap as well (Roughly £100 for each Microsoft module).

The great thing about IT is that you are never stuck in one thing. For example, for one year you could be working on a technician type break fixing systems then move onto programming or project management etc. So in that respect, its good to get some kinda certification and work your way up while doing more certifications whist you're are in employment.

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