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Is it racist to call someone from Australia an 'Aussie'?

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7y, 10m agoPosted 7 years, 10 months ago
If not, then why is it different when the same abbriv is applied to someone of Pakistani descent? It doesn't really matter, i'm just interested in the concept of social hypocrasy.

hypocrisy even
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#1
No! Of course not! Half my family are born and bred Aussies and then some of them have emigrated and I can't think of anyone of them or their friends being offended. Plus is they are going to call me a Pommie I don't think they have a leg to stand on!!

I don't know any Pakistani's so I don't know if it's offensive or not!
#2
No but expect to be called a Pommie back!
#3
p-prisoner
o-of
m-mother
e-england

which is the huge irony of an ozzie calling us pome's
banned#4
Some people are easily offended. Makes no odds to me. You can call me "donk" if you like. :thumbsup:

BTW - did you know the Aussie press use the term for headlines in huge bold letters? (eg when they play Pakistan at cricket.)
#5
I think it is ok to use these slang terms as long as the nationalities in question use them about thems. We call ourselves Brits, so cannot argue if someone uses it to describe us.
#6
Oh lawd. :-(
banned#7
It's because of the use of P*** over the years.

Aussie has become accepted as it's always used in friendly situations and used by both Australians and others.

The problem with the other word is that it was used as an insult in the 50's, 60's, 70's when there were a lot of Pakistanis coming to the UK to work and live. It was used against them by people who didn't want them there and therefore has stuck as a "bad word."

However, I do know that Pakistanis do sometimes refer to each other as P***s - in a light-hearted, friendly, cultural way. Very much similar to how some cultures of black people use the N-word to refer to each other.
#8
No different to calling me a Brit or a Manxie, not offfensive. However, I think a lot of it is the context in which thigs are said. Too big a debabte for me on a Sunday!
#9
guv
Some people are easily offended. Makes no odds to me. You can call me "donk" if you like. :thumbsup:

BTW - did you know the Aussie press use the term for headlines in huge bold letters? (eg when they play Pakistan at cricket.)


I agree. I think the PCs are far too easily offended personally. They have a stick up themselves about nothing.
The way I see it, a term only seems to be racist when an agenda can be served by it being so :whistling:
#10
The word P*** has been used as a derogatory term for decades in this country.

Terms such as brit and aussie have been used as terms of affection

Clear distinction
#11
guv you are a donk!:-D

Can I be one too please!
#12
how many germ's do ya know
banned#13
Scribbles
I agree. I think the PCs are far too easily offended personally. They have a stick up themselves about nothing.
The way I see it, a term only seems to be racist when an agenda can be served by it being so :whistling:


It's nothing to do with being "politically correct" though. The P-word is generally accepted as being offensive. That's just the way it is. That's how the English language has evolved in this country.
#14
Well it might be because whenever I have heard the word directed at someone it is preceded by dirty f*cking and followed by b*stard p*ss off back to where you came from, and reinforced by the threat of steel toe caps to the head or groin.
Similarly we could abbreviate Nigerians to n*gger and Yiddish to Y*ds, but just because the Brits aren't offended by the terms it doesn't mean they are acceptable in polite company.
Overall its the context in which it is used. The insult DJ referred to throughout 50s, 60s & 70s carried on throughout the 80s, 90s and into this decade too. The manner in which Harry said it sadly reminds me of that Kipling poem Gunga Din.
banned#15
guv;4026875
Some people are easily offended. Makes no odds to me. You can call me "donk" if you like. :thumbsup:

BTW - did you know the Aussie press use the term for headlines in huge bold letters? (eg when they play Pakistan at cricket.)


I have a mate we call 'Donk' as in Donk from Crocodile Dundee...
#16
its not what you use, its the way you use it.
If the person saying it and the person takes it as a joke, then it is fine.
If the person says it as a joke, but the person taking it takes it as an offense, it is an offense.
If the person says it as an offense, but the person takes it as a joke, then it is dependent on circumstances
If the person says it in offense and the person takes it as an offense, then no question, it is an offense.

However, since these days its all about PC, jokes aren't really in the dictionary anymore, so it is an offense even if both people concerned know it is a joke.
#17
If **** is deemed offensive - so is 'Brit' or 'Aussie' then.
#18
Cheap publicity stunt by News of the World, Responsible media should have kept shut rather than increasing tension.
banned#19
robtallica;4027027
If **** is deemed offensive - so is 'Brit' or 'Aussie' then.


Yup tis true...but the PC brigade dont moan about anyone being 'White British' who gets labelled...just other ethnicities so therefore we can be called anything and its deemed non-offensive/not racist
banned#20
dhoomdhoom
Cheap publicity stunt by News of the World, Responsible media should have kept shut rather than increasing tension.


Exactly.

As I have said in other threads, stunts like this and others pulled by tabloids just whip up the emotions of their un-educated, small-brained readers into a rage.

"SHOCK! As Prince Harry uses a racist term!!"

and usually on the same page

"Turn to page 8 to find out why YOU should HATE immigrants! They eat OUR SWANS!"
#21
Because PC'mania has taken grip in this country and now it is perceived to be racist to even mention on discuss things of that nature. Personally I couldnt give a rats @ss unless something is blatantly offensive to someone then it should be okay to say it.

I spend a lot of time south of the border and I dont mind when people refer to Scottish folks as jocks or scots or anythin like that....but some people would consider that racist. It depends on what context its used and said.

Like others have said, its the PC brigade gone mad :-D
banned#22
im taking my ex employer to tribunal for racial discrimination (and other things) as the manager was calling me welshy (im white) even though i wrote a complaint to his boss, it contiuned.......what do you think of that?
banned#23
ODB_69
I have a mate we call 'Donk' as in Donk from Crocodile Dundee...


In that case, I retract my original invitation! (I never thought about him!):w00t:

Artonox
its not what you use, its the way you use it.


That's what gets results! :whistling:
#24
DanJackson
......They eat OUR SWANS!"


But "They" do....dont they? ... :lol:
banned 2 Likes #25
ODB_69
Yup tis true...but the PC brigade dont moan about anyone being 'White British' who gets labelled...just other ethnicities so therefore we can be called anything and its deemed non-offensive/not racist



It's nothing to do with being politically correct.

It's an evolution of our language in this country. If it HADN'T been used as a hateful word for 30 years then it would be just as acceptable as "Brit" or "Aussie"

But unfortunately it HAS been and still IS used as an offensive term and therefore IS offensive. It's nothing to do with "do-gooders" saying "Don't use this word, use this word."

Our language is very organic, it's not fixed and forever the same. It changes year after year, decade after decade. Words we use now in daily conversations may well be deemed inappropriate in 50 years time, who knows?

When you can understand that, then you can see how it has nothing to do with this made-up "PC Brigade"
banned#26
davedave3
im taking my ex employer to tribunal for racial discrimination (and other things) as the manager was calling me welshy (im white) even though i wrote a complaint to his boss, it contiuned.......what do you think of that?


So if I called you Welshy, you would be offended? Why?

Jeez.... I'd probably need to go into hiding if I mentioned anything to do with sheep!:w00t:
#27
I've always wondered about these 2 examples:

if you called a white dude "you white bas****" and

if you called a black dude "you black bas****"

Is either one an example of racism?
banned#28
So if I called you Welshy, you would be offended? Why?

it was continual for 5 months every day, and harassment (he was given a oral warming for his contact, 1 month later 'he' sacked me)
#29
robtallica
I've always wondered about these 2 examples:

if you called a white dude "you white bas****" and

if you called a black dude "you black bas****"

Is either one an example of racism?



Depends "who" says it. I must say though, they are very good examples to bring on to this topic.
#30
guv
In that case, I retract my original invitation! (I never thought about him!):w00t:





I will have to retract callling guv a donk then.:thumbsup:


"I retract calling you a donk"

Job done!:-D
banned#31
robtallica
I've always wondered about these 2 examples:

if you called a white dude "you white bas****" and

if you called a black dude "you black bas****"

Is either one an example of racism?


Both are.

Why?

Because you are using their race as a means to insult them. And both are just as illegal in the UK.
#32
DanJackson
It's nothing to do with being politically correct.

It's an evolution of our language in this country. If it HADN'T been used as a hateful word for 30 years then it would be just as acceptable as "Brit" or "Aussie"

But unfortunately it HAS been and still IS used as an offensive term and therefore IS offensive. It's nothing to do with "do-gooders" saying "Don't use this word, use this word."

Our language is very organic, it's fixed and forever the same. It changes year after year, decade after decade. Words we use now in daily conversations may well be deemed inappropriate in 50 years time, who knows?

When you can understand that, then you can see how it has nothing to do with this made-up "PC Brigade"


My 2nd rep given out this year goes to you sir. :)
#33
guv
So if I called you Welshy, you would be offended? Why?

Jeez.... I'd probably need to go into hiding if I mentioned anything to do with sheep!:w00t:


That would depend upon the origins of the sheep...:whistling:
banned#34
thesaint
My 2nd rep given out this year to you sir. :)


Thank you, I was beginning to think I was talking to a brick wall!!
#35
No, not offensive since it hasn't been used in the past as an offensive and derogatory term. I thought that that was obvious.
banned#36
thesaint
My 2nd rep given out this year goes to you sir. :)


Strong rep begging ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
#37
robtallica
I've always wondered about these 2 examples:

if you called a white dude "you white bas****" and

if you called a black dude "you black bas****"

Is either one an example of racism?


bothe are offensive when you take into the account what the word bas#### actually maans but when you are not the same colour/race of the person you are calling it then it is often taken/construed in a different way

half the time these racial things are blown out of all proprortion and used as another way of getting at the person who has said it
#38
i was once called "****" at a football match, my first game, i was in a team of whites, and i didnt like it one bit, as i saw other people laughing at me, luckily my team members told me to ignore it etc.
banned#39
DanJackson;4027142
It's nothing to do with being politically correct.

It's an evolution of our language in this country. If it HADN'T been used as a hateful word for 30 years then it would be just as acceptable as "Brit" or "Aussie"

But unfortunately it HAS been and still IS used as an offensive term and therefore IS offensive. It's nothing to do with "do-gooders" saying "Don't use this word, use this word."

Our language is very organic, it's fixed and forever the same. It changes year after year, decade after decade. Words we use now in daily conversations may well be deemed inappropriate in 50 years time, who knows?

When you can understand that, then you can see how it has nothing to do with this made-up "PC Brigade"


Did you even read what I put? did you read what it was in response to? I'm talking about the principal hee...exactly what Rob put, Im not discussing this one word...the context it is used in is obviously racist therefore understandable it should never be used but the principal is fair
And yes...the PC brigade do exist, its people that deny they exist that are as blind as the people that jump on the bandwagon, that word in paticular is nothing to do with what we apparently should and shouldnt call people...we al know the context and reasons why it is used and actively choose not to use it feel it is wrong. The point Rob was making was about the principal and you cannot deny that logic is true

There have been ay to many times 'PC Brigade' has shown its nature, then encouraged by the media. Usually these things are started off by some moronic member of Parliment. Perversely these people have been brought up in Private Education...the breeding ground of racism...inherently racist through and through, they then feel that by showing how something innocent is actually wrong and racist and trying to get it banned they are infact not racist when they purely are...much like that idiot Lord who stated that flying the George Cross during footballing events was actually racist, intimidated ethnicites and therefore should be banned when the whole thing masked exactly how this person thought
banned#40
strike
i was once called "****" at a football match, my first game, i was in a team of whites, and i didnt like it one bit, as i saw other people laughing at me, luckily my team members told me to ignore it etc.


Surely being called a star is a compliment? :p

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