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Is my friend being stupid about her weight and her inability to get a job?

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I have a friend who has not worked for a few years (the arrival of several children) . She is a solicitor and until recently was trying to get back to work with a city solicitors pratice. However she…
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8y, 6m agoPosted 8 years, 6 months ago
I have a friend who has not worked for a few years (the arrival of several children) . She is a solicitor and until recently was trying to get back to work with a city solicitors pratice. However she has now had 2 rejections. She is very overweight (size 24 - I guess about 16/17 stone and not tall?) and she now thinks as a very overweight person there is no way she is going to get a "professional" job back and she may as well forget it. I have told her she is being silly but when I discussed this with my sister she agreed wth her! Do you think she won't get offered a job because of her weight? It will take her I woutd have thought at least a year to get back to a more normal size and then she might find it even more difficult to get back to work as she won't have worked for another year.
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8y, 6m agoPosted 8 years, 6 months ago
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#1
its harsh but true.

Alot of people judge people by the way they look and treat them selfs.

This is not in all cases however.


I have nothing against overweight people, but I would not hire one if I ran my own business, because if thats how they treat themselfs, how will treat the position i am giving them?
#2
Depends, obviously we live in a world where looks in such a sense do matter, so it depends on what her profession is. In my experience, if she is not actually a professional then it matters slightly less, but if she is, and is expected to meet with clients etc. the company may care more. This is not my opinion, just my experience. Personally I would think she should try and make a positive impact on her life, starting with weight loss, and ending in being successful in other areas, such as getting a job.
banned#3
Its the way people conduct themselves and perform their duties that's important.

Who would you employ? Someone who is capable of working hard, achieve good results, but a little tubby, or someone that is vane, thinks they know everything (but clearly doesn't) and thinks they are superior (when clearly they are not).
#4
nikkib123
Tis true but infortunately we live in a very image conscious society were looks and dress sense matter to people more than the actual people :)


Completely, and this matters more if you are trying to impress a client, for instance.
#5
It may be a factor wrong as it is but it may be the line of work remembering things in that bussiness change daily and she has been out of the loop for a few years.
banned#6
pghstochaj
Completely, and this matters more if you are trying to impress a client, for instance.


Like everything else, it all depends on the type of work and the people they are likely to meet etc.
1 Like #7
Your all forgetting that peoples size can be illness related or medication side effects. I know someone who has steroid injections for a problem and she went from size 10 up to 20.
The increased weight doesnt suddenly make her become bad at her job.

First impressions may be judgemental however its how people perform. Thin people are just as lazy and incompetent. My sister who is large owns 2 businesses, is mortgage free, is set for life....... so it knocks the theory of being Lazy out of the window huh.

Thin or Large - it makes no difference, its what that person can offer skill wise.
banned#8
Ok, i am being very honest here, if i was to employ her, i would take her on depending on her qualifications and abilities.

I wouldn't be happy about her being overweight because i think big people are not nice to look at.

I think that they don't care abouth their health etc...

I am not vain but i know i am ok looking.

I hope i am never overweight because i would not like it.

If i ever do put weight on i just cut down on the food i eat and exercise more.

Hope she gets to do exactly what she wants to do in the near future.
#9
nikkib123
Yes It does depend on what position you are applying for. If you wanted to be a rep for a company obviously they would want smartly dressed people who care about their appearance. You would not want your rep turning up to a client in un-ironed clothes and unshaven (even the women ha). I also do not think people would want an over weight person representing the company either - I don't see many "big" reps in my industry.



Exactly. Not saying it is right or wrong, just that it is the way it is for now.
#10
welcome to the present day
#11
dmissy13
It may be a factor wrong as it is but it may be the line of work remembering things in that bussiness change daily and she has been out of the loop for a few years.


In technology based industries, it would take somebody a while to get back to the standard they were at, but most industries (including law) are actually very slow with change in my experience.
#12
black gerbil1
welcome to the present day


Present day? If anything, the present day is much better for people that don't conform, due to legsilation etc. making it harder for people to not be employed for such reasons. In the "less present day", statistically, being from a minority group, being homosexual or a female meant you were less likely to be employed. The same goes for being fat, a fact of life which lingers.

The present day is an improved situation, not the other way around.
#13
pghstochaj
Present day? If anything, the present day is much better for people that don't conform, due to legsilation etc. making it harder for people to not be employed for such reasons. In the "less present day", statistically, being from a minority group, being homosexual or a female meant you were less likely to be employed. The same goes for being fat, a fact of life which lingers.

The present day is an improved situation, not the other way around.


wow your trying too hard to try to 1 up me man, chill its only the net.

You only have to walk into your local Topman/River Island, and see that even they dont just hire "anyone".

el oh el.
[mod]#14
Maybe she just wasnt suitable at the time. I work for a law firm and we have a selection policy and maybe your friend just wasnt quite what they were looking for.
#15
I don't have to try to "one up you" BG1, I am correcting you for being wrong or not making sense.
#16
During some interviews we did a while ago a woman arrived who was very, very round. Now I am on the large side myself but she was VERY short and VERY round..... My immediate thoughts were OMG, BUT straight away felt really guilty about my initial reactions.

So I listened to every thing she had to say, interviewed her in the same way as every other candidate and she got the job. She was by far the best candidate and has proven herself.

It is obvious not all interviews are conducted in the same way and that 'some' might be discriminated against because of their size. My recommendation is that if she looks presentable and is fully qualified she may consider challenging why she was not employed. Our company encourage this and evidence no discrimination occurs.

Pass on my best wishes and tell your friend not to give up!!
#17
pghstochaj
I don't have to try to "one up you" BG1, I am correcting you for being wrong or not making sense.

its debatable.
#18
bankofmumndad
Pass on my best wishes and tell your friend not to give up!!

Yes, the same from me!

Not all employers will immediately see faults, but like some have said people are judged alot more for the way they look now. Its a shame. Good luck to her.

black gerbil1
its debatable.


werent you getting a new gerbil ages ago?
banned#19
black gerbil1


You only have to walk into your local Topman/River Island, and see that even they dont just hire "anyone".



Fortunately, I don't shop at these cheap and nasty retailers. Thanks for clearing that up though.:thumbsup:
#20
I think it is more likely that your friend is suffering from a lack of confidence (because of her weight and being out of the work enviroment) and that this is likely to be affecting her abilities to get a job. There are many obese people who are successful but carry themselves with an air of authority and confidence.
I would have thought that with work like hairdressing, and shopwork that their is far more of a fattest attitude - but in a professional outfit I think brains, experience and confidence count far more than a slim body.
#21
bluedave
I think it is more likely that your friend is suffering from a lack of confidence (because of her weight and being out of the work enviroment) and that this is likely to be affecting her abilities to get a job. There are many obese people who are successful but carry themselves with an air of authority and confidence.
I would have thought that with work like hairdressing, and shopwork that their is far more of a fattest attitude - but in a professional outfit I think brains, experience and confidence count far more than a slim body.


This is what I thought it was - although she is very intelligent having been out of the job market for nearly 3 years and now looking very "mumsy" compared to what she normally looked like she is nowhere near as confident as she was. I wanted to guage opinion as I thought the more rejections she has the less confident she will feel and there is little point going for lots of interviews if her weight means she stood no chance. Reading the posts on here it looks like she may be right that it is very much hindering her search.
#22
pcnutta;2906146
Your all forgetting that peoples size can be illness related or medication side effects. I know someone who has steroid injections for a problem and she went from size 10 up to 20.


Whilst true, for every fat person with a medical condition making them fat there are 100 other fat people who just like pie. :whistling:
banned#23
I work in a law firm and many of my colleagues recruit solicitors and I know that sometimes people get jobs because of their appearance and some don't. Depends how structured the firm is really.

If there is a proper HR dept that do all the interviews then from my experience it is less unlikely she will be rejected solely because she is over weight.

I hope your friend doesnt let the rejections set her back. Keep going, she will soon get a job in a firm where she is wanted because of her talent/skills. End of the day if she has been rejected because of the way she looks, then she is better off not working for a firm like that.

Hope things go well for her. :thumbsup:
banned#24
Titchimp;2906454
Whilst true, for every fat person with a medical condition making them fat there are 100 other fat people who just like pie. :whistling:

Have to agree. I know quite a few obese people and they always seem to have some really awful piece of 'food' in their hands (KFC, Mcds, Subway, greggs etc).

I am a bit overweight but know thats all down to me liking my food but at least I have the good sense to eat proper home cooked things.
banned#25
pcnutta
Your all forgetting that peoples size can be illness related or medication side effects. I know someone who has steroid injections for a problem and she went from size 10 up to 20.
The increased weight doesnt suddenly make her become bad at her job.

Nobody even mentioned the reasons for her being overweight so how is everyone forgetting the reasons?
No one said she wouldn't be bad at her job either!


OP surely she knows most the solicitors in her area so could approach them directly?
What type of law does she specialise in? Conveyancing for example is likely to be pretty hard to get a position in at the moment, whereas criminal would probably be easier.
#26
black gerbil1;2906251
its debatable.

The only debate you are good at doing is mass debating:whistling:
#27
hahahahahahahaha

BG1 pwned again

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