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Is PC gaming going downhill, are consoles taking over? £300+ Graphics cards, why?!?!?

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7y, 10m agoPosted 7 years, 10 months ago
Basically I've just seen a post for a graphics card for £370.
OK, obviously it's pretty much top of the range. For £370 you could have any console put the extra money towards a HDTV etc...

My point is even if you had a £200 graphics card, that's still alot of money and again you could still have a console, there are very few games that are PC specific that would take advantage of the latest cards.
Most mainstream games do get released onto PC's, so seems pointless spending that much when you can have on a cheaper console. On top of that alot of the time the games are ported over to PC's are pretty poorly done.

I'm not anti PC, quite the opposite. A pretty avid PC gamer for years, just makes think if I need to bother upgrading. Only keeping my PC as I can't play First Person shooters at all on a gamepad, I need my keyboard and mouse!! :-)

Please share your opinions :-)
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7y, 10m agoPosted 7 years, 10 months ago
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#1
i much prefer a pc to console, most of the time the games are a lot better, i played hawx on 360 didnt think much to it, very easy.
just finshed downloading the pc version, its not out for 4 days, but hell its fast a lot faster then on the 360.
#2
yeah, i share the same opion, only i relieaszed this about 3years ago when I was upgrading my g/card, i spent over £200 on one. After a few months it quickly got out dated and i was left with having to upgrade my PC again.
Now I need to buy a brand new PC as i have only the single core CPU and AGP graphics...

Anywasy after pricing up for a new one I looked around have bought myself a console for a 3rd of the price. I havent played on my PC since!
suspended#3
I agree with you, most people seem to spend around £1000 on building a good computer, where you can get like 4 PS3s for that price. and with consoles you dont need to keep buying new graphics cards and stuff. they must be hardcore gamers lol
#4
You'd need to be seriously rich to be a "hardcore" gamer!!
Most people I know that spend most of thier time playing games don't exactly do much else.

I understand it's a pretty nice feeling and experiance to crank all the settings up to Max and sit back and see your virtual world how the designers meant it to look. But whe I think about it, the experiance isn't really massivly better, personally. Apart from getting people to see it, but even then people brand you a geek :-(
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dcx_badass
No not at all, consoles will never become a serious gaming platform, especially when they still use poor slow clumsy controllers and have relatively low resolution levels, can only be used for a few tasks and have a limited amount of games. Also consoles are out of date as soon as they are made aswell, with no hope of upgrading them.


Not so. i have a PS3 and it can do almost anything. you can browse the internet, play games, play blu ray/dvds, listen to music, view photos, can output in 1080p, and you can also install Linux to do more advanced PC work. and it will get updated for free
by the comment of a "low resolution level, and a few tasks, and limited amount of games", what consoles speciffically do you point to? a Gameboy maybe?
#6
dcx_badass
No not at all, consoles will never become a serious gaming platform, especially when they still use poor slow clumsy controllers and have relatively low resolution levels, can only be used for a few tasks and have a limited amount of games. Also consoles are out of date as soon as they are made aswell, with no hope of upgrading them.



Um, consoles are gaming platforms.
What is a serious gaming platform then?

Agree with the upgrading, but my point is a graphics card costs the same if not more that a console anyway, then there's the hard disk, cpu, sound card.....
#7
this is new and exclusive the console vs pc debate.............sad
#8
DarkKnight
Not so. i have a PS3 and it can do almost anything. you can browse the internet, play games, play blu ray/dvds, listen to music, view photos, can output in 1080p, and you can also install Linux to do more advanced PC work. and it will get updated for free


True consoles are now becoming PC's!!
Still lost without my keyboard and mouse, I'm sure it's just around the corner. Infact I bet it's already done.
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Kermit2004
True consoles are now becoming PC's!!
Still lost without my keyboard and mouse, I'm sure it's just around the corner. Infact I bet it's already done.


Lost without your keyboard and mouse? never fear, you can use both of those with the PS3 :thumbsup:
#10
Alfonse
this is new and exclusive the console vs pc debate.............sad


Good contribution. Very intelligent comment. You obviously have too much time on your hands, go clean the kitchen.
#11
I used to be a PC gamer and every year or so I used to upgrade my graphics card.

I was really into WOW but you don't really need too much for it at the beggining, but then I was playing at 1080p and in raids the machine could not cope at all getting 4fps was horrible, specially when people rely on you.

Decided to upgrade the graphics card and it got a bit better but still struggling, the problem was no longer the graphics card was the P4 that could not cope.

So decided to upgrade the whole PC, so playing WOW end up being a very expensive experience.

Whilst playing WOW I decided to get a PS3 to take me away from WOW, but the PS3 failed to do anything I was still very much into WOW.

Finally decided to give up WOW and got an XBOX 360 and I am being really happy with it.

I have to say I probably will go back to PC gaming but at the moment the XBOX 360 and PS3 do just fine.

In fact as I had enough for the time being with PC games and I going for the XBOX 360 version.

Had Mass Effect and Fallout 3 for the PC and XBOX 360 in the end decided to stick with the XBOX 360 version.
#12
One advantage of PC gaming though is that you can take it with you. COD4 plays well on my M1330.
suspended#13
Thats the good thing about console gaming, when you buy games on the PC you have to always look at the back of the cases and see if your PC is powerful enough to run it. with consoles you dont need that worry, everyone has the same machine
suspended#14
Liddle ol' me
One advantage of PC gaming though is that you can take it with you. COD4 plays well on my M1330.


Well not for most PC gamers as they mostly use desktops
#15
Alfonse
this is new and exclusive the console vs pc debate.............sad


I guess the XBOX vs PS3 debate is kind of over as now days many of us have both, so that's kind of out of context now. But PC vs console muahh let's the fight begin. :thumbsup:
#16
dcx_badass
No not at all, consoles will never become a serious gaming platform, especially when they still use poor slow clumsy controllers and have relatively low resolution levels, can only be used for a few tasks and have a limited amount of games. Also consoles are out of date as soon as they are made aswell, with no hope of upgrading them.



Bull comment.

Sorry but they are the more serious gaming solution.

I love PC gaming by far.

I have had so many pc's in my life, and I agree gaming is far better on a keyboard and mouse for first person shooters, MMO's and RTS. But the amount of upgrading and changing and demmand that is put on modern machines to keep up along with ever changing enviroment just isn't worth keeping up with.

I would Buy whatever console and get a splitfish controller.

Killzone 2 great game, as well as games like COD and Gears of War. Good console titles.

Waiting on Red alert 3 to come down on the PS3.

More then capable of playing.

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#17
Guys the solution is here you can use your Keyboard and mouse in the XBOX 360 just get this

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#18
Console gaming is better. you just plug and play, too much upgrading and checking if games work on your pc, and then online servers are wizachk.

with a Xbox you and your friend can buy one, and within 25mins of setting up out of the box you can play and chat.
suspended#19
dcx_badass
So basically consoles are the easy alternative for people who can't read the back of a DVD case?


haha, thats a bit of a silly question
my point was that if you want to buy a certain game, maybe you cant play it because your PC doesnt have enough power etc
#20
Theres only one reason I would go back to my pc or get a new one 'cheap' would be for Diablo 3, and also a bit of CS again. But other then that no point wasting money on a new rig.

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banned#21
dcx_badass
consoles will never become a serious gaming platform,


That's probably the strangest comment that I'll read today.
#22
You just dont get it,Paying £370 for a graphics card is like buying a PS4 ,If you just want to play the same quality graphics as a PS3 buy a hd4830 for £70 .No one says you have to buy a £370 graphics card to play PC games,But if you do they will look 5 times better than on a PS3,
#23
Ok, so are there any people out there that could honestly justify spending £200 on a graphics card.

I have done in the past, however with so few PC games out there I personally can't justify spending that money when I know a console will do exactly the same thing.

As a few of you have sort of mentioned a PC is only as good / fast as it's slowest component so, for me when I upgrade, it has abit of a knock on effect, in the end I would end up with all new components within a few months. That's not only very expensive, but time consuming and pointless for word processing and web browsing!!
#24
many in this are missing the point about pc's, ie nearly every one has one so the cost of all the hardware is already covered,
My m8 has paid out over £1000 on console hardware in last 3yrs as well as paying 30% more on games doesn't seem that cheap to me..
an extra £100 on a gfx is nowt compared to the cost of "new" consoles ie ps4, xbox 720 or whatever..
oh and i'm still playing cod1, ra2 etc games i bought 5-10 yrs ago and easily available for a fiver along side fallout3 etc.
#25
Adam2050
Theres only one reason I would go back to my pc or get a new one 'cheap' would be for Diablo 3, and also a bit of CS again. But other then that no point wasting money on a new rig.

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True, I've not played CS in a long time. Ahhhhh the days used to just disappear.

Diablo could be a shout too, although as you said not worth paying out too much for.
banned#26
I think the general trend is towards gaming becoming less of a niche hobby. I mean, you could spend £300 on a graphics card and have great graphics but (rightly or wrongly) the best selling console is the Wii.

Great graphics are nice, but not everyone is that interested in spending top dollar for an extra couple of frames per second.
#27
tonyg1962
You just dont get it,Paying £370 for a graphics card is like buying a PS4 ,If you just want to play the same quality graphics as a PS3 buy a hd4830 for £70 .No one says you have to buy a £370 graphics card to play PC games,But if you do they will look 5 times better than on a PS3,


What and the processor, memory, hard drive, Blu-ray/DVD/CD Drive. Sound Card etc.

Not quite the same. We know the PS3 graphics chip is not that amazing but the Processor is.

£180-200 for a PS3 is far more rewarding then the poor cheap build that would be produced from that theory.

(Still love PC gaming. Bought have just bought a N64, and a Snes.)

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#28
Adam2050
What and the processor, memory, hard drive, Blu-ray/DVD/CD Drive. Sound Card etc.

Not quite the same. We know the PS3 graphics chip is not that amazing but the Processor is.

£180-200 for a PS3 is far more rewarding then the poor cheap build that would be produced from that theory.

(Still love PC gaming. Bought have just bought a N64, and a Snes.)

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Yeah but almost everyone here has a PC anyway ,How many people here are sat typing on the PS3.The question is do you buy a £70 graphics card for your pc or £200 for a PS3 then £10-£15 extra for every game,
#29
tonyg1962
You just dont get it,Paying £370 for a graphics card is like buying a PS4 ,If you just want to play the same quality graphics as a PS3 buy a hd4830 for £70 .No one says you have to buy a £370 graphics card to play PC games,But if you do they will look 5 times better than on a PS3,


5 times better you say? Interesting, I've yet to see this.
So how much would your monitor cost you then?
banned#30
tonyg1962
Yeah but almost everyone here has a PC anyway ,How many people here are sat typing on the PS3.The question is do you buy a £70 graphics card for your pc or £200 for a PS3 then £10-£15 extra for every game,


I'm typing on a laptop, the section of the market that is growing more than any other.

Is sellotaping a £70 graphics card to the back of the screen going to improve my resolution?
suspended#31
tonyg1962
Yeah but almost everyone here has a PC anyway ,How many people here are sat typing on the PS3.The question is do you buy a £70 graphics card for your pc or £200 for a PS3 then £10-£15 extra for every game,


You are really incorrect. you can't compare a graphics card with an entire console.
you would have to compare the complete PC package with the PS3, no way on earth can you build a computer that will be be better than a PS3 for less price
and you dont pay £15 extra for a game. for example Littlebigplanet advertised on here many times is around £14. i never pay over £20 for a PS3 game now
#32
FilthAndFurry
I'm typing on a laptop, the section of the market that is growing more than any other.

Is sellotaping a £70 graphics card to the back of the screen going to improve my resolution?



Was going to post something similar.

The machine I am using is a works machine I have a laptop as well but no gaming rig.

What is the point comparing a good gaming rig to a poor one.

Xbox, Wii, PS3 are purely built for this purpose in mind. Well I say purely but you know what I mean.

I wouldn't upgrade either of my machines to do the task I would need to buy a half decent machine to feel worth while. Which would cost me more then half a ps3. Just to play Diablo and CS.

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#33
DarkKnight
You are really incorrect. you can't compare a graphics card with an entire console.
you would have to compare the complete PC package with the PS3, no way on earth can you build a computer that will be be better than a PS3 for less price
and you dont pay £15 extra for a game. for example Littlebigplanet advertised on here many times is around £14. i never pay over £20 for a PS3 game now


I have to agree with that too. Last two games I have gotten off the same site as an offer.

£6.99 For Killzone 2, advertised here.

£10.65 for Gears of War 2, also advertised here.

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#34
Adam2050
Theres only one reason I would go back to my pc or get a new one 'cheap' would be for Diablo 3, and also a bit of CS again. But other then that no point wasting money on a new rig.

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Uhmmm now you are talking Diablo 3 is a must have game in my books.

What about Starcraft 2 then ? Would you rather play Starcraft 2 or Halo Wars?

The annoying thing is that if you are a true gamer you probably will end up with one of each.
#35
So there's no one out there that has rescently forked out close to £250 for a graphics card?

I don't see how manufacturers can still afford to build them when there is no market for them to cater for? Unless there are lots of people out there that have money to burn.

I actually pretty annoyed that consoles have totally dominated the market, as the games that have been ported from consoles are pretty awful.
The handful that are out there just don't shout out to me to fork out.

Maybe I'm growing out of games ;-)
#36
asandino
Uhmmm now you are talking Diablo 3 is a must have game in my books.

What about Starcraft 2 then ? Would you rather play Starcraft 2 or Halo Wars?

The annoying thing is that if you are a true gamer you probably will end up with one of each.


Tbh I ain't going to get into a fight with a starcraft player.

I never really played it(Much). But then again I much prefered Red alert serious. Just liked the feel of things, but I have played a lot of RTS. At the moment I am playing Civilzation Revolution on the PS3, but it gets boring quick, don't get me wrong good game.

Not played Halo Wars couldn't justify the money on that, have a feeling it will be a poor imatiation.

Diablo 3 is a hurdle I will need to come to at some point.:thumbsup:

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#37
Kermit2004
So there's no one out there that has rescently forked out close to £250 for a graphics card?

I don't see how manufacturers can still afford to build them when there is no market for them to cater for? Unless there are lots of people out there that have money to burn.

I actually pretty annoyed that consoles have totally dominated the market, as the games that have been ported from consoles are pretty awful.
The handful that are out there just don't shout out to me to fork out.

Maybe I'm growing out of games ;-)


I would wait for the lastest gen to become old gen. They only stay expensive for about 4-6 Months. I remember with the Voodoo 2 came out. I have one here now. What a card at the time. Diablo 2 looked mint on it.

I would go with a mid gen card.

Don't waste your money on next gen.

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#38
I suppose it depends on the type of games you like playing.It seems to me that the majority of console games involve driving,shooting or platform types,not including the Wii here because that is a slightly different market.
PC gaming seems to have a much broader range of games to play.My hubby for example enjoys space sim games,currently playing X3,a game that will never be available for a console.He also enjoys flight sims,management games,RTS and if he plays FPS games like many he has to use a keyboard and mouse.He has never seen a game that is graphically better on a console than what he can achieve on his PC.

I only really play the sims or management style games,can't manage all the buttons on a joypad,just not dextrous enough,I want to enjoy the gameplay and challenge,just concentrating on what buttons I need to press,which ones I have to press together to make someone jump etc sort of defeats the object of gameplay for me really!

We have a ps2,it rarely gets played,only used for guitar hero which admittedly is great fun,but it's PC gaming that rules in this house and I think always will do.
#39
Ha Voodoo.
I remember thinking I got a bargain years back, later finding out the 3DFX went bust.
Wow, so much money spanked down the gutter...

I'm just going to play games a year behind everyone else.

Picked up a used PS2 last night, with two buzz games including buzers, for £20. Can't really go wrong with that!! Played buzz with mates for an hour or so, paid it's way already in my eyes!!
Also needed a spare DVD player, although it is pretty huge!!
#40
wickedteen
i much prefer a pc to console, most of the time the games are a lot better, i played hawx on 360 didnt think much to it, very easy.
just finshed downloading the pc version, its not out for 4 days, but hell its fast a lot faster then on the 360.



But still not as fast as a jet :thumbsup:

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