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Hi all :) Can anyone tell me if security is comprimised when you go wireless? I do online shopping etc. I am sure i read somewhere that people can acces your computer and hack in when on wireless? … Read More
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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
Hi all :)

Can anyone tell me if security is comprimised when you go wireless? I do online shopping etc. I am sure i read somewhere that people can acces your computer and hack in when on wireless?

Also... i have only one laptop so will i be able to use a modem?


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8y, 2m agoPosted 8 years, 2 months ago
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[mod]#1
Only if you don't password protect it.

It will never be as safe as a wired connection but it is more than safe enough. :)
#2
enable wep and you will be fine.....online shopping is done through secure servers anyway.

if that paranoid disable java as this is the main means of grabbing info from your pc and use a proxy
#3
stuff wep enable WPA and you'll be fine - wep hardly counts as security these days. It can be broken in under 60 seconds by tools freely downloadable that kids can use.
1 Like #4
enable WPA2 if your router and wireless devices support it (it's stronger encryption than WEP...which most companies consider weak as they have been hacked).

4) Nothing
3) WEP
2) WPA
1) WPA2 or i think it's also called 802.11i (i.e. it is a recognised IEEE standard)
#5
worto03
stuff wep enable WPA and you'll be fine - wep hardly counts as security these days. It can be broken in under 60 seconds by tools freely downloadable that kids can use.


i agree...60 seconds wow... I thought it took a lil longer than that...that is shocking.
#6
i agree...60 seconds wow... I thought it took a lil longer than that...that is shocking.


depends how many clients are using the AP, I guess it would take longer if it was just one client as it works by reading the password from the authentication packets. The more clients the more authentication traffic is going backwards and forwards so the quicker it can be broken.

Still 1min, 3 mins, 5 mins either way it's not good is it - lol
1 Like #7
WEP is more than enough security.

The other replies are correct in that WPA and WPA2 provide a greater level of security, however the reality is that you have better odds of winning the lottery twice in a row than a culmination of

(a) you being targetted by
(b) someone who has the knowledge,
(c) the motivation, and
(d) has the tools

So yes, WEP may not provide a level of security as WPA or WPA2, however its similar to saying that WEP is a 5 lever lock and WPA/WPA2 is a 7 lever lock. Both are more than adequate for locking, its just that one provides something more than the other.

:)
1 Like #8
And don't forget to change the routers internal password otherwise all security is redundant!
1 Like #9
WEP is more than enough security.

The other replies are correct in that WPA and WPA2 provide a greater level of security, however the reality is that you have better odds of winning the lottery twice in a row than a culmination of

(a) you being targetted by
(b) someone who has the knowledge,
(c) the motivation, and
(d) has the tools

So yes, WEP may not provide a level of security as WPA or WPA2, however its similar to saying that WEP is a 5 lever lock and WPA/WPA2 is a 7 lever lock. Both are more than adequate for locking, its just that one provides something more than the other.


I would have agreed about a year ago but not now - I've also heard that banks are going to be adding into thier terms and conditions that if your the victim of fraud after using online banking they reserve the right not to cover you if they find you have WEP as your security method on your network as they now consider WEP to be as good as having no security.

I'm not gonna argue about it anyway - have whatever security you like - heck leave your front door open if you like but WEP is insecure, WPA is secure, WPA2 is even better but probably not needed for non businesses.

People will target you for all sorts of reasons not just because they don't like you but for many it's simply free internet access, for others it's a way of going about criminal activities that won't be traced back to them then there are the obvious hacking to get bank details types. As for knowledge and tools they are freely availiable with a google search so everyone can do it.

It's not hard you normally have a pulldown box or radio button in the setup one is WEP & one is WPA they both require you to enter a passcode - why not just tick the WPA one?

Anyway I'm rabbling now & getting hungry - I'm off for mi tea :)
1 Like #10
if someone wants to hack you they will

op is talking about general use and wep is adequate

worto where is this talk of n ot being covered for using wep with your bank..............what a crock



talk about scaremongery .....
#11
worto03
I would have agreed about a year ago but not now - I've also heard that banks are going to be adding into thier terms and conditions that if your the victim of fraud after using online banking they reserve the right not to cover you if they find you have WEP as your security method on your network as they now consider WEP to be as good as having no security.

I'm not gonna argue about it anyway - have whatever security you like - heck leave your front door open if you like but WEP is insecure, WPA is secure, WPA2 is even better but probably not needed for non businesses.

People will target you for all sorts of reasons not just because they don't like you but for many it's simply free internet access, for others it's a way of going about criminal activities that won't be traced back to them then there are the obvious hacking to get bank details types. As for knowledge and tools they are freely availiable with a google search so everyone can do it.

It's not hard you normally have a pulldown box or radio button in the setup one is WEP & one is WPA they both require you to enter a passcode - why not just tick the WPA one?

Anyway I'm rabbling now & getting hungry - I'm off for mi tea :)



lol...enjoy your tea, but I've been using WEP for years and had no problems whatsoever, and I will continue to use it despite what other people say or argue about it.

:-D
#12
casparwhite
if someone wants to hack you they will

op is talking about general use and wep is adequate

worto where is this talk of n ot being covered for using wep with your bank..............what a crock

talk about scaremongery .....


+1 Also, out of all the people who argue about WEP vs WPA/WPA2, how many of them do you think REALLY know how each work in order to put forward any meaningful opinion on the matter at all....I'd say very few......:thumbsup:
1 Like #13
Simply use the best your laptop and and router can use. If you have security set up its your ISP that is the most likely leak for your data.
1 Like #14
worto03;4868414

It's not hard you normally have a pulldown box or radio button in the setup one is WEP & one is WPA they both require you to enter a passcode - why not just tick the WPA one?


WPA compatibility can be poor compared to WEP, especially with Nintendo's rather poor wifi support (there's plenty other examples, particularly with mobile devices) so it's not just as easy as changing a dropdown box. I have a an extremely hard time believing that banks are going to require WPA, any fraud I've seen has been nothing to do with the transmission between the router and the mobile device plus the banks would have a hard time proving your level of security at the time of the transaction.

In real terms the difference between wep and no security is that anyone driving by cannot connect straight to yours but they can connect straight to an unsecured network. If someone wants to break your network then they can do regardless of the wireless security you have enabled which is why many companies do not have any actual wireless security on their wireless networks and instead place the interface outside of their main network forcing any clients to go through a more robust authentication system before they can access any portion of the network.

John
#15
worto where is this talk of n ot being covered for using wep with your bank..............what a crock



talk about scaremongery .....


I have no proof of it as in links to stupid bbc stories which is what I assume you want - it's being discussed by banks at the moment & I heard it at a seminar on wireless security in London a couple of months ago - they will still pay out, at the moment they always do but they are talking about adding a clause in to the T's & C's saying that they reserve the right not to if they choose to invoke that right is unlikely.

as for using wep for years and not having a problem thats like not bothinging to install a burgular alarm until after you've been robbed!
#16
worto03
I have no proof of it as in links to stupid bbc stories which is what I assume you want - it's being discussed by banks at the moment & I heard it at a seminar on wireless security in London a couple of months ago - they will still pay out, at the moment they always do but they are talking about adding a clause in to the T's & C's saying that they reserve the right not to if they choose to invoke that right is unlikely.

as for using wep for years and not having a problem thats like not bothinging to install a burgular alarm until after you've been robbed!


lol...to be honest all I need is the confidence that I know what security I have and how it works. You're analogy is fundamentally flawed and you seem to have a beef with whomever supports WEP. All I can suggest is get over it and do whatever it takes to keep your own devices secure. I know mines are secure.

Also, I dont have burgular alarms...and I've never been burgled......maybe something to do with the fit for purpose lever locks I have doing the job they are supposed to do :thumbsup:
#17
Use WPA, not WEP (You don't trust even a small chance you'll get into trouble just to avoid expending a little effort - you still look before you cross a road that you "know" is clear, don't you?)

Add MAC control (Router only lets those wireless devices connect whose MAC codes it has been told are OK ).

Use a password that isn't a normal "dictionary" word. Make it long, make sure it is a mix of upper case, lower case and numbers.

Add the usual caveats:

Make sure your firewall is enabled, your antivirus is working and up to date and dopn't click through from adverts or emails unless you're 100% sure of the provenance.
#18
What about when you use free wi-fi in resteraunts or the train? How secure is that?
1 Like #19
gari189
What about when you use free wi-fi in resteraunts or the train? How secure is that?


Erm... well as long as you are sure you are connecting to the Access Point you intend to (criminals sometimes set up rogue access points to try and trick people) and you are happy with the networks encryption methods (criminals can use packet sniffers to see what data you are sending/recieving) then you should be ok. TBH I personally try not to use them a lot even though its tempting sometimes.
#20
Xiwt
Erm... well as long as you are sure you are connecting to the Access Point you intend to (criminals sometimes set up rogue access points to try and trick people) and you are happy with the networks encryption methods (criminals can use packet sniffers to see what data you are sending/recieving) then you should be ok. TBH I personally try not to use them a lot even though its tempting sometimes.

Thanks :thumbsup:
1 Like #21
Thanks a lot for all your answers guys :)
Rep added :thumbsup:

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