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eca07mc Avatar
7y, 5m agoPosted 7 years, 5 months ago
In response to a request for a photo, considering i don't have a camera

I'm aware that photos are used to prove authenticity in threads like these, but look at my feedback on here.

Is this really a good reason to close down my thread and force me to wait a week to relist?


eca07mc:
Can't sorry

looks just like every other cartridge/box though

Such a poor response, with no explanation as to why not.

Thread locked. No relisting this for another 7 days. Please give others a little more consideration when you're after their cash.
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7y, 5m agoPosted 7 years, 5 months ago
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#1
i think its right ...... no matter on feedback, people can still scam, most people have a camera on their mobiles, i always insist on images so that i know its condition before i recieve it (in case royal mail play football with it) its a rule you agreed to when joining
#2
faevilangel
i think its right ...... no matter on feedback, people can still scam, most people have a camera on their mobiles, i always insist on images so that i know its condition before i recieve it (in case royal mail play football with it) its a rule you agreed to when joining


+1, was it an expensive item?
#3
faevilangel
i think its right ...... no matter on feedback, people can still scam, most people have a camera on their mobiles, i always insist on images so that i know its condition before i recieve it (in case royal mail play football with it) its a rule you agreed to when joining


sure, you're under no pressure to buy if you aren't trusting of the seller, or you personally want photos, but is it any reason to close a thread? when the mod could have just asked why? seems a heavy handed approach to me
banned#4
you could have been a little more specific, an "i cant" isnt really acceptable whn you are expecting people to buy, it has nothing to do with feedback its baout showing the condition of the goods
banned#5
eca07mc
sure, you're under no pressure to buy if you aren't trusting of the seller, or you personally want photos, but is it any reason to close a thread? when the mod could have just asked why? seems a heavy handed approach to me


you could have given reasons youself as to why, but you didnt
#6
RuthIess
+1, was it an expensive item?


One of a bundle, about 20 quid. less than most of the things i sell on here.

I've explained in many threads that i take all my photos on my iphone and that it's been damaged, hence buying a new one on here.
#7
sassie
you could have given reasons youself as to why, but you didnt


I was in a rush, but wanted to reply to be polite as the guy seemed interested

again, why does it lead to my thread being closed, why not just ask why i couldn't upload a picture,
#8
sassie;5554164
you could have given reasons youself as to why, but you didnt

+1 plus saying its like every other box cartridge is very flippant and condescending.
#9
you basically refused to put up a photo,if you were unable to you should not have started thread


you were also very cocky and flippant wether you meant to be or not


mod was spot on imo
#10
eca07mc;5554184
I was in a rush, but wanted to reply to be polite as the guy seemed interested

again, why does it lead to my thread being closed, why not just ask why i couldn't upload a picture,

Because by you dragging the answer out = free bumps
banned#11
eca07mc
I was in a rush, but wanted to reply to be polite as the guy seemed interested

again, why does it lead to my thread being closed, why not just ask why i couldn't upload a picture,


the way i see it, and just me, if you cannot be bothered to either upload a pic or explain your reasons for doing so, then why should the mods bother to run round finiding what things you could have explained in a thread, also it is now in the rules that they can lock threads with no pics, maybe you could have put in your opening post the reasons for no pics, rather than waiting for bumps asking for them
#12
harlzter
Because by you dragging the answer out = free bumps


Not at all.
banned#13
Difficult one this.

On one hand, I'd have (personally) thought your reply made you look a total cock end, and wouldn't have gone near the sale with a bargepole etc

However, not sure whether it should have been locked. As far as I know, pics are not mandatory, so I'm not surprised your a little peed off.
#14
sassie
the way i see it, and just me, if you cannot be bothered to either upload a pic or explain your reasons for doing so, then why should the mods bother to run round finiding what things you could have explained in a thread, also it is now in the rules that they can lock threads with no pics, maybe you could have put in your opening post the reasons for no pics, rather than waiting for bumps asking for them


Right then, how do you change the quote below your avatar, i'll happily put it in there to clear things up and not have to explain it every time i list something.
#15
eca07mc;5554217
Not at all.

But it is indeed bumping your thread, if potential buyers had asked you questions and you answered them over several spread posts when one would suffice you would get locked for excessive bumps.
#16
vibeone
Difficult one this.

On one hand, I'd have (personally) thought your reply made you look a total cock end, and wouldn't have gone near the sale with a bargepole etc

However, not sure whether it should have been locked. As far as I know, pics are not mandatory, so I'm not surprised your a little peed off.


eca07mc
Right then, how do you change the quote below your avatar, i'll happily put it in there to clear things up and not have to explain it every time i list something.


you are doing it again OP
#17
vibeone
Difficult one this.

On one hand, I'd have (personally) thought your reply made you look a total cock end, and wouldn't have gone near the sale with a bargepole etc

However, not sure whether it should have been locked. As far as I know, pics are not mandatory, so I'm not surprised your a little peed off.


Fair points there
#18
harlzter
But it is indeed bumping your thread, if potential buyers had asked you questions and you answered them over several spread posts when one would suffice you would get locked for excessive bumps.


I didn't think i needed a reason not to include photos, i can see what you're saying but it's alot of hassle to go through for an extra bump, considering i hadn't used any of mine yet
banned#19
eca07mc
Fair points there

Another thing... if I'm understanding right... this is for a printer cartridge?

I would have refused to put a photo up to.

Thats utter pathetic. Whats it worth? Like £15 max?
#20
OP serious question, how old are you? you seem (to me) like a kid going into a strop.
#21
vibeone;5554265
Another thing... if I'm understanding right... this is for a printer cartridge?

Box full of ninty carts/games
banned#22
harlzter
Box full of ninty carts/games

ahh ok got that one a bit wrong then!!
#23
vibeone
Another thing... if I'm understanding right... this is for a printer cartridge?

I would have refused to put a photo up to.

Thats utter pathetic. Whats it worth? Like £15 max?


A game cartridge, for N64

my point on them looking the same i wasn't trying to be arrogant, they genuinely do all look alike, you can't check them for damage like you could a CD or furniture and there's no variation between them (except some are gold i believe, i'd probably have mentioned that)

That game itself is worth about 4 or 5 pounds i think, though no ones bought it so probably not even that.

Then again if i'd had a camera, and someone asked for a photo i'd have happily gone out of my way to take one. i've never had any problems selling on here, i've always gone out of my way to help people i've dealt with and now i'm coming across like a c*** end who shouldn't be dealt with because of this petty stuff.
banned#24
eca07mc
I didn't think i needed a reason not to include photos, i can see what you're saying but it's alot of hassle to go through for an extra bump, considering i hadn't used any of mine yet


from the rules

(5) Please Post Images (click for details) including a piece of paper with your user name and date next to the actual items for sale. This helps your sale or trade by showing the condition, establishing validity and also that you have the items in your possession. If you post an eBay image or are unable to post any images, we may pull the listing immediately to request further information.
banned#25
eca07mc
A game cartridge, for N64

my point on them looking the same i wasn't trying to be arrogant, they genuinely do all look alike, you can't check them for damage like you could a CD or furniture and there's no variation between them (except some are gold i believe, i'd probably have mentioned that)

That game itself is worth about 4 or 5 pounds i think, though no ones bought it so probably not even that.

Then again if i'd had a camera, and someone asked for a photo i'd have happily gone out of my way to take one. i've never had any problems selling on here, i've always gone out of my way to help people i've dealt with and now i'm coming across like a c*** end who shouldn't be dealt with because of this petty stuff.

to be honest, I ignore the petty stuff and just look at the rules, and I can't see anywhere where it says you MUST display pics.

I've sold stuff without pics before.

Not sure why this has happened
#26
harlzter
OP serious question, how old are you? you seem (to me) like a kid going into a strop.


That covers most people who bang on about fs/ft rules:thumbsup:
banned#27
eca07mc
A game cartridge, for N64

my point on them looking the same i wasn't trying to be arrogant, they genuinely do all look alike, you can't check them for damage like you could a CD or furniture and there's no variation between them (except some are gold i believe, i'd probably have mentioned that)

That game itself is worth about 4 or 5 pounds i think, though no ones bought it so probably not even that.

Then again if i'd had a camera, and someone asked for a photo i'd have happily gone out of my way to take one. i've never had any problems selling on here, i've always gone out of my way to help people i've dealt with and now i'm coming across like a c*** end who shouldn't be dealt with because of this petty stuff.


so you now expect mods to judge which items need pics and which dont, its across the board rules, for everyone, no matter what ya feedback is
#28
sassie
from the rules

(5) Please Post Images (click for details) including a piece of paper with your user name and date next to the actual items for sale. This helps your sale or trade by showing the condition, establishing validity and also that you have the items in your possession. If you post an eBay image or are unable to post any images, we may pull the listing immediately to request further information.



It was more a suggestion that i was being rude, rather than a request for information.

Now that i'm aware of all this i'll happily mention in all my posts that i can't provide photos (and why i can't provide photos) until my new phone arrives.

My point wasn't to question the rules, just the Mods heavy handed approach to it.

whether or not i'm a cock.
banned#29
eca07mc
It was more a suggestion that i was being rude, rather than a request for information.

Now that i'm aware of all this i'll happily mention in all my posts that i can't provide photos (and why i can't provide photos) until my new phone arrives.

My point wasn't to question the rules, just the Mods heavy handed approach to it.

whether or not i'm a cock.


it clearly states they may pull lisitngs, so if i was you maybe its best to wait till you can fulfill all rules before listing again, your choice of course, but remember when locked you cannot relist for 7 days, surely its best not to list knowing they can be pulled and a 7 day wait follows
#30
sassie
so you now expect mods to judge which items need pics and which dont, its across the board rules, for everyone, no matter what ya feedback is


http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/426574/is-there-a-rule-now-in-the-for-sale/

Well, i'm not the only one who wasn't aware of the change in rules,


and the issue seems to be not with me being unable to post pictures, but with my lack of care in response to their request, it's easy to take things out of context when you're just reading them in a thread, it came across badly because i was in a rush, and i didn't mean to be rude to them or fail to give a reason, i was just saying that i couldnt upload a photo and that the cartridge was generally the same wherever you looked.
banned#31
eca07mc
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/426574/is-there-a-rule-now-in-the-for-sale/

Well, i'm not the only one who wasn't aware of the change in rules,

That suggests it there to stop bumps....

so if you put in your first post "THIS IS A £5 ITEM AND I CANT BE BOTHERED TO TAKE PICS. IF YOUR SO POOR YOU CANT RISK LOSING £5, DONT BID" you'll be fine.
banned#32
eca07mc
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/426574/is-there-a-rule-now-in-the-for-sale/

Well, i'm not the only one who wasn't aware of the change in rules,


I never implied you where, the rules are there for all to see, although for the thousand time i have said it, they need updating and soemthing needs to be done, as members shouldnt be expected to read the rules every time they list something incase a rule has been added, changed, etc, etc
#33
vibeone
That suggests it there to stop bumps....

so if you put in your first post "THIS IS A £5 ITEM AND I CANT BE BOTHERED TO TAKE PICS. IF YOUR SO POOR YOU CANT RISK LOSING £5, DONT BID" you'll be fine.


Unfortunately that's not the case, as the reason the thread was locked was

"A little care and appreciation towards the posters who showed interest in your sale should have been your priority."
#34
sassie
I never implied you where, the rules are there for all to see, although for the thousand time i have said it, they need updating and soemthing needs to be done, as members shouldnt be expected to read the rules every time they list something incase a rule has been added, changed, etc, etc


I can appreciate that, me and you don't always see eye to eye and you've stopped a fair few of my threads but we agree 100% on this, there are alot of rules which frequently change and can be ambiguous even between long standing members and from moderator to moderator.

I'm happy to wait a week and re-list the lot, though i'm disapointed with a few personal responses i've received from people on here.

Thank you for taking the time to talk with me rather than just locking the thread
banned#35
eca07mc
Unfortunately that's not the case, as the reason the thread was locked was

"A little care and appreciation towards the posters who showed interest in your sale should have been your priority."

See thats another made up rule - where does it say you have to be nice to people?

If you are within the forum rules, you should be able to say what you like (and if people think you are a tit and don't buy - so be it)
#36
faevilangel
i think its right ...... no matter on feedback, people can still scam, most people have a camera on their mobiles, i always insist on images so that i know its condition before i recieve it (in case royal mail play football with it) its a rule you agreed to when joining


this is the most stupid rule in huk

if someone wanted to scam you how would a picture stating their username and hot uk deals written on a piece of paper stop this!!!!!!


all they would need to be was in POSSESION of the goods they were claiming to sell taking a photo with username etc does not guarantee they will send the gods ffs


i know ive been scammed on here
banned#37
eca07mc
I can appreciate that, me and you don't always see eye to eye and you've stopped a fair few of my threads but we agree 100% on this, there are alot of rules which frequently change and can be ambiguous even between long standing members and from moderator to moderator.

I'm happy to wait a week and re-list the lot, though i'm disapointed with a few personal responses i've received from people on here.

Thank you for taking the time to talk with me rather than just locking the thread


we dont have to agree on anythng, i know i upset alot of people on the fs boards for trying to make it a fairer place, but also been appreciated by alot for helping rid the boards of scammers, i dont expect anything in return other than the patheticness that goes from one thread to another every day cause i managed to upset some on a said thread

I truly wish admin would listed and take on board some of the great suggestions put forward by many, but it falls on deaf ears and until it stops falling on deaf ears members have to do the best they can and accept it is what it is, a free selling place
#38
jamstaruk1972
this is the most stupid rule in huk

if someone wanted to scam you how would a picture stating their username and hot uk deals written on a piece of paper stop this!!!!!!


all they would need to be was in POSSESION of the goods they were claiming to sell taking a photo with username etc does not guarantee they will send the gods ffs


i know ive been scammed on here


read the second part ...... the main reason for the pics are to see the condition of the item before selling so i know if rm have kicked it around.,, :roll:

i have never been scammed, because i ask for pics, contact info..... and i research :thumbsup: just a little time helps ... a picture paints a thousand words (or something similar)
banned 1 Like #39
sassie
we dont have to agree on anythng, i know i upset alot of people on the fs boards for trying to make it a fairer place, but also been appreciated by alot for helping rid the boards of scammers, i dont expect anything in return other than the patheticness that goes from one thread to another every day cause i managed to upset some on a said thread

I truly wish admin would listed and take on board some of the great suggestions put forward by many, but it falls on deaf ears and until it stops falling on deaf ears members have to do the best they can and accept it is what it is, a free selling place

I'm not 100% sure on this, but could it be you upset a lot of people on the fs boards by sticking your nose in where it is not needed nor wanted? Or to put it another way: threadspoiling with pointless jibber jabber.

Just a thought like...
1 Like #40
vibeone;5554522
I'm not 100% sure on this, but could it be you upset a lot of people on the fs boards by sticking your nose in where it is not needed nor wanted? Or to put it another way: threadspoiling with pointless jibber jabber.

Just a thought like...

I for one appreciate sassies so called interfering, many a time I've seen her pick up on a scamer before someone gets scammed, it used to be the case those threads simply got deleted or spammed into oblivion before the mods became more involved in the fs/ft boards.

for example a previously banned scammer managed to rejoin and post a fs/ft but ballsed up by using the same image hosting account as before with his banned userbame the same as the hosting account:w00t:

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