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8y, 4m agoPosted 8 years, 4 months ago
Right, tired of this stupid music industry. I need to get into IT and make some real money.

I'm good with computers, I really wanted to enrol in an MCSA and an CCNA today but the place I wanted to do it at is closing :-( Can't seem to find anywhere else in Leicestershire which will do it, or anywhere even close for that matter.

I can go to college and do a Comp TIA A+ and a Comp TIA Network +

Are these actually going to be of any use though? Most of the job descriptions I have been looking at mention a MCSA or an MCSE.. Is an employer going to look favourably upon the Comp TIA qualifications? Or can any monkey do them?

Shoul I do the Comp TIA's or go out of my way to do the MSCA/CCNA?
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8y, 4m agoPosted 8 years, 4 months ago
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banned#1
Not sure about the other ones, but I know there are jobs out there for CCNA, what are your qualifications already. Why dont you try out as a SAP consultant , some real money there
#2
get some books and just to the exams
banned#3
schaf
get some books and just to the exams


Agreed but some of the stuff has to be done practically as books alone can leave you slightly clueless
#4
You need some advice on the music industry mate? I can give you some advice bud, if you're serious don't ever stop! I've been pretty lucky so far just through sheer determination (and several court-ordered restraining orders) :-D
banned#5
jjharvey
You need some advice on the music industry mate? I can give you some advice bud, if you're serious don't ever stop! I've been pretty lucky so far just through sheer determination (and several court-ordered restraining orders) :-D


Agreed to some extent but there is nothing wrong in wanting to do more and try new things.
#6
Didn't say there was mate, adding another feather to your cap is great and determination doesn't put food on the table, but it certainly helps. I just think that you really need to constantly work at it. OP what were you trying to achieve in the industry? Not audio engineering I hope, that's pretty much dead (business wise) unless you're very, very lucky at the moment.
#7
jjharvey
You need some advice on the music industry mate? I can give you some advice bud, if you're serious don't ever stop! I've been pretty lucky so far just through sheer determination (and several court-ordered restraining orders) :-D


Well to be honest I'm pretty fed up with it. I'm a mix engineer at heart, mixed a few projects including album and for music videos.. Studio jobs are few and thin and often get completed horded but the millions of other people out there like me. Went for two jobs at the BBC just to do archiving and got rejected for both of those. They were interviewing around 30 candidates for each position. There's just too much competition about and I really don't want to work for at best peanuts, at worst for free.

Would really like to get into the IT side of things as I've been messing with computers since I was 14 (now 23). I've always been the go to guy for advice/repairs etc and even setup a little repair business on the side while I was at uni for students.

Studying for the exams then doing them is an idea but I really think I'll need some guidance with some of the less familiar concepts..
#8
jjharvey
Didn't say there was mate, adding another feather to your cap is great and determination doesn't put food on the table, but it certainly helps. I just think that you really need to constantly work at it. OP what were you trying to achieve in the industry? Not audio engineering I hope, that's pretty much dead (business wise) unless you're very, very lucky at the moment.


Yes, engineering. I know.
#9
Think long and hard before you jump, IT engineering is in sharp decline these days due to improved manufacturing techniques.
10yrs ago I could jump from job to job, not now, its often easier for support to courier new kit to site.
#10
Yikes, sorry to hear that mate, I have a lot of friends who have had to go into admin/menial jobs because of the lack of business coming their way. If you are still interested in it however, there is a studio in London worth trying for internships, pay is terrible (for three months - then you are freelance) but you can work with some real pro's in the meantime. If you wanted to make a go of it, you should befriend someone who is a producer and do some band work for free for a while, then send some demo reels in to production houses etc. Are you a composer as well or is engineering your real love?
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jjharvey
Yikes, sorry to hear that mate, I have a lot of friends who have had to go into admin/menial jobs because of the lack of business coming their way. If you are still interested in it however, there is a studio in London worth trying for internships, pay is terrible (for three months - then you are freelance) but you can work with some real pro's in the meantime. If you wanted to make a go of it, you should befriend someone who is a producer and do some band work for free for a while, then send some demo reels in to production houses etc. Are you a composer as well or is engineering your real love?


Been there, done pretty much all of that. Even did my internship out in Jamaica and met some of the biggest reggae stars out there. I'll PM you a link to listen to some of the projects I've worked on.

Used to compose a bit but more into the engineering side now.

The world is against baconsandwich!!!
#12
Had a listen, it's very well produced stuff mate! You're no worse than a recent (full-time paid) audio engineer I was with in London! I would keep plying away at it, start being cheeky and just turning up to studios, radio stations things like that. I can't talk with any authority on studios further north than London, but I assume it's ten times harder up in Leicester than it is in the capitol. Have you tried working for local studios on a lo/no basis on live rigs? Gets your name about on the circuit, and local bands might start wanting to record with you. I'm pretty sure you know all this already, but you have a vote of confidence from me if that means anything to you bud!
#13
I'm from Leicester mate and was out of work for 3 months trying to get a decent IT job. Be careful as i've seen people asking for MCSE qualifications as essential only to see that they are offering 16k a year - pathetic.

I was on that sort of wage as a trainee.

Some employers can pay well but others are shocking. Its ok doing the MCSE or CCNA but trust me its all about experience which if you were going to do the course make sure its a practical one. Reading and reading just tells you the technologies behind it and how to do it but you never remember everything but if you do it pratically you tend to remember how to do things.

My mate did both the MCSE and CCNA and passed the exams but even himself said that he he struggle with some things.

If possible (not easy at all) try and get a job as an IT Engineer and see if they'll put you through it as it is a benefit to you and the company (if you stay)

When applying, you could say you have started studying in your own time for an MCSE.

Are you good with computers and networks? If you are good with desktops just do the MCDST course as its a 1 weeks course and that'll give you one MCP. MCSE is very good if you are going for network jobs, but if you dont have much experience in networks its difficult to get a job.

Its very competitive this market (people dont realise and just cause you think you have a job in IT it will be paid well - espeically engineering. Application support i've found generally you progress faster (team leader roles etc) and the money can be better but of course this is down to the company.

Good luck, I remember having the same idea as you 2.5 years a go.

Hope it helps a little.

Woz
#14
It really depends on the job, some will use the certification as a tick box requirement whereas others are more interested in yourself. I have no formal IT certifications aside from a joint honours degree in Artificial Intelligence and Computer Science but I have managed to get several jobs competing against those with a variety of certifications due to my experience and technical ability.

If I was out of work and stuck getting anything suitable I probably would be looking at obtaining some certifications but not at the moment.

John
#15
Other half is an IT Technitian. At the moment he fits EPOS tills in a very well known supermarket. He gets very well paid and has no formal qualifications whatsoever. He got the job based on his experience and skills alone. Some employers favour this over qualifications.
#16
Watch out re IT work - the pay and availability of jobs has dropped - well up in Aberdeen area it has - lots of the MCSE type jobs have been shipped out to India\Asia and the likes and for the companies that are recruiting then you need some experience under your belt otherwise you could be applying for jobs at £16-£22K. Most higher skilled jobs prefer that yu have a year or two under your belt as a desktop engineer and they can be poor pay too - just depends on employer I guess.....best demand jobs up in Aberdeen in Oild and Gas It wise seem to still be Unix\Linux and SAP...and Telecomms if youhave a wide range of knowledge of different kit.....I actually jumped from IT to Document Control - which to me seemed to be a glorified filing clerk but last time I looked round the agencies the job commanded £12-£25 per hour with lots of jobs in Saudi, Asia and at ship yards etc..boring job though, felt like a glorified electronic filing clerk, and totally soul destroying (In my opinion)....would probably be okay if you can get in on a project from the outset though...

Another role thats been taking off last few years is HSE - lots of work offshore and on ships for that..

Can send yoou some job sites I have used in past so you can see whats hot at moment etc? If you want some then pm me and will send you a list...may take a couple of days as juggling quite a few things at moment....
#17
[url]www.cwjobs.co.uk[/url] are an agency which specialise in IT jobs....its where I got my job :)
Thought it may be useful to you :thumbsup: Good luck!

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