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Jeremy Clarkson Murder debate

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8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
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do you really believe that 'Cari Mitchell, of the English Collective of Prostitutes' was actually a viewer?!?!?! or are they just complaining for the sake of complaining? i watched the episode and found it really funny....

http://www.heatworld.com/Article/7868/Jeremy+Clarkson/Clarkson+prostitute+joke+%e2%80%93+complaints+top+500
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8y, 1m agoPosted 8 years, 1 month ago
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#1
I laughed so hard.
#2
Top gear is amazing, leave Clarkson alone. He was only joking.
#3
This is all 'cus of the Ross and Brand phone prank scandal.
#4
Pandoras Box Is Open
[helper]#5
I think it was a very bad taste joke (he repeated it twice) and it should have been editied out but I don't think it was bad enough to complain about (unless I was a lorry driver)....
#6
raptorcigs
Pandoras Box Is Open


4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
#7
Clarkson's so funny, He comes out with far more offensive stuff than that, It's humour.
#8
'Cari Mitchell, of the English Collective of Prostitutes' was actually a viewer

http://www.allwomencount.net/EWC%20Sex%20Workers/IPCpage.htm
oh yes she is - she must like the programme

what pzzes me is that 'ladies of that ilk are breaking the law - i think? but clarkson getting done -

why all the hoo har??
banned#9
I don't think TV presenters should stoop this low!

Women have an hard enough time in society already in my opinion.
#10
i think with all the prerecording nowaday's that anything that could be edeemed offenseive can be cut. if its not been cut then it should be the networks problem not the presenters - if BBC didn't like it then it would have been cut. someone there thought it was ok, lets show it to the nation, thus taking the blame away from clarkson - someone was playing a pretty mean trick on him during the show anyway by making him wear the ridiculous hawaiian shirts - who's handling those complaints?!
#11
English Collective Of Prostitutes
The English Collection of Prostitutes is a network of women, black and white, of different nationalities and backgrounds working at various levels of the sex industry. We campaign for sex workers to be recognised as workers ; for legal, civil and economic rights; the aboloition of the prostitution laws which criminalise women for trying to survive and support their families; the right to protection from violence, to health care and to form and join unions.
We provide help, support and information to prostitute women on a wide range of issues including the prostitution laws, police illegality and racism, child custody, taxes, health including AIDS, benefits, etc. In 1982 we initiated Legal Action for Women (LAW) a grassroots legal service for all women.
Contact: Sara Walker
Cari Mitchell
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Cari Mitchell, of English Collective of Prostitutes, meanwhile, said Clarkson's comments were "more serious than the Ross and Brand debacle" because he was "making light of murder".
"More than 60 women have been murdered who the police say are prostitutes in the last 10 years so it's an absolute disgrace," she said.



I do not understand the point of view where you 'have to be a viewer' to have or state an opinion.
If you were a prostitute you would not find it funny.
I believe that the views of lorry drivers were 'mixed'

The joke was not received well by some lorry drivers, including Roger King, chief of the Road Haulage Association.
King wrote to the BBC: "While this could be interpreted as being 'humorous', it certainly is not seen that way by over half a million lorry drivers."
However, one of the UK's biggest haulage firms, the Eddie Stobart group, threw its support behind Clarkson.
Andrew Tinkler, chief executive of the group, said: "They were just having a laugh. It's the 21st century, let's get our sense of humour in line."
Will Shiers, the editor of Truck & Driver magazine, also came out in support of Clarkson.
Shiers said: "[The] bulk of the UK's drivers who saw the programme loved it. Yes, a small number of drivers were offended by the murdering prostitute reference, but they really are in the minority.
#12
I bet Clarkson has something really funny to say about this in Sundays TopGear...!!!
#13
if you watch top gear, you should expect and put up with jeremy's humour. Its half the show if not more for pete's sake. Some people must just watch tv waiting for someone to say something to complain about. Those folks need a life.
#14
chesso
I do not understand the point of view where you 'have to be a viewer' to have or state an opinion.


what i meant was do you think she acutally watched the program, or she heard about it after? whenever anybody complains about programmes and their contect they are always a viewer - but do they actually sit on the sofe with their cup of tea and watch the progamme?

if she did then she would understand clarksons humour - i'm not justifying it in anyway, but it was typical of him....
#15
Clarksons not funny, hes a moron. His humour is constantly distasteful and aimed at cheap laughs. He has little genuine wit if any
#16
"Cari Mitchell, of English Collective of Prostitutes, meanwhile, said Clarkson's comments were "more serious than the Ross and Brand debacle" because he was "making light of murder".
"More than 60 women have been murdered who the police say are prostitutes in the last 10 years so it's an absolute disgrace," she said."

How many innocent non-criminals have been murdered in the same time period? A lot more than 60 i'll bet.


If it wasn't for the current BBC witch-hunt noone would have complained (or certainly not as many)

I can remember Jeremy making jokes poking fun at gay people and "foreigners" (ie people from any other country on earth), why no furore about that?


Edit - I'm not condoning murdering anybody btw
banned#17
roryk83
Clarksons not funny, hes a moron. His humour is constantly distasteful and aimed at cheap laughs. He has little genuine wit if any


Agreed :thumbsup:
#18
teambintip
"Cari Mitchell, of English Collective of Prostitutes, meanwhile, said Clarkson's comments were "more serious than the Ross and Brand debacle" because he was "making light of murder".
"More than 60 women have been murdered who the police say are prostitutes in the last 10 years so it's an absolute disgrace," she said."

How many innocent non-criminals have been murdered in the same time period? A lot more than 60 i'll bet.


If it wasn't for the current BBC witch-hunt noone would have complained (or certainly not as many)

I can remember Jeremy making jokes poking fun at gay people and "foreigners" (ie people from any other country on earth), why no furore about that?


Mainly Americans, He openly admits he hates Americans.
#19
teambintip
"Cari Mitchell, of English Collective of Prostitutes, meanwhile, said Clarkson's comments were "more serious than the Ross and Brand debacle" because he was "making light of murder".
"More than 60 women have been murdered who the police say are prostitutes in the last 10 years so it's an absolute disgrace," she said."

How many innocent non-criminals have been murdered in the same time period? A lot more than 60 i'll bet.


Being a prostitute isnt a criminal offence. The point is that Clarkson was joking about a specific group of people and the fact that a large number of them are murdered. Any comparison to another group of people is irrelevant
#20
shauneco
Mainly Americans, He openly admits he hates Americans.


He openly admits he hates everyone - hes the typical little Englander
#21
I didnt see anything wrong with it at all. Many entertainers make light of crimes that are considered heinous.

IMO we as a society need to light up a little instead of witch hunting someone because they say something that upsets us. How many of us actually knew the people who he was referring to who were murdered? not many thats for sure. I can understand the people who were close to the victims complaining but for everyone else to jump on the bandwagon is ridiculous. Its almost as bad as the Brand & Ross saga.

Its seems nowadays if you say or do something that is or could be perceived to offend or upset someone else then you should be sacked. What a load of tosh.

Deal with it and move on, it was said in humour in the context of a comedian telling jokes on stage using similar subject matter. As far as I'm concerned it just another programme with a presenter who is past his prime and reaping wollaping great wads of cash at the same time. All this serves to do is to give him hugh and free publicity so that he can be considered a person of controversy and yes, end up commanding a higher salary.

And FYI I dont rate him as a presenter at all and I rarely watch the programme so I'm not what you'd call, a big fan.
#22
DLM
Agreed :thumbsup:


Who do you find funny then?
banned#23
the dandy p
Who do you find funny then?


You :-D
#24
DLM
I don't think TV presenters should stoop this low!

Women have an hard enough time in society already in my opinion.


I agree 100% and I am not a woman.

This was a cheap not funny joke, targeted at the families and friends of people that have been murdered.

Clarkson thinks that he is a law to himself.:roll:
banned#25
How would he like it if his daughter had been murdered.

Very low :x
#26
The whole persona Jeremy Clarkson projects is that of a A-Hole and has the pee taken out of him by the other presenters accordingly.

Some people really need to learn how to take a joke. If all we did was censor all TV because someone may end up offended there would be nothing on. Even a show like Faulty Towers that is seen as a classic has a dubiously racist character in Manuel.
#27
Ungreat

Some people really need to learn how to take a joke. l.


It wasn't even a " joke " it just wasn't funny.:x
#28
DLM
How would he like it if his daughter had been murdered.




Exactly.
#29
Lorry drivers have been the brunt of serial killer jokes for years.

At this rate all of TV is going to end up a bunch of Zombies afraid to offend anyone. I sent a comment of praise to even out the numbers.
#30
Ungreat
The whole persona Jeremy Clarkson projects is that of a A-Hole and has the pee taken out of him by the other presenters accordingly.

Some people really need to learn how to take a joke. If all we did was censor all TV because someone may end up offended there would be nothing on. Even a show like Faulty Towers that is seen as a classic has a dubiously racist character in Manuel.


He is an A-Hole - its no persona. And its because of the things he says that hes an A-hole. What he said was inappropriate and if it had been said about another more sympathetic group of people there would be a much larger public outcry.

It seems from your statement that racism in tv programmes can be condoned as long as its "funny"
#31
He is a prat most of the time but i do like topgear, think he is funny at times but you expect this kind of humour from him.

Lets get one thing right, he did not make it personal like RB & Wossy did and was trying to make a joke about the stereotypical truck drivers.

He didn't insult prostitutes in any way ( i dont think so in my opinion but i am willing to hear from a prostitute to confirm this ) just truck drivers, is that a bad thing, he could have said something bad about the French / Germans as usual - but i don't think many would complain over this.
#32
They are just complaining so they can get fame or money (compensation) just like the rest of them. Also they don't like of the idea that people might enjoy stuff:x
#33
roryk83
He is an A-Hole - its no persona. And its because of the things he says that hes an A-hole. What he said was inappropriate and if it had been said about another more sympathetic group of people there would be a much larger public outcry.

It seems from your statement that racism in tv programmes can be condoned as long as its "funny"



Think you're getting ahead of yourself there. Is everyone that laughs at Fawlty Towers a racist?
#34
roryk83
He is an A-Hole - its no persona. And its because of the things he says that hes an A-hole. What he said was inappropriate and if it had been said about another more sympathetic group of people there would be a much larger public outcry.

It seems from your statement that racism in tv programmes can be condoned as long as its "funny"


And if he could shoot fire out of his pooter he could fly. :whistling:

You can't say that if he said racist things he would be racist and therefore people must react as if he did even though he didn't. :?

He made a reasonably funny generalisation about a workforce (lorry drivers) based on how they are portrayed and the stereotype in the media, not an ethnic minority.
#35
also people are forgetting that someoe had to sit and edit the programme and decide what was to be shown on national tv - iuts their job to cut out all the stuff that is likely to casue an offence... they left this in - isn't that showig their bad taste not just clarsksons - where is their hounding?!?! sureley they are as much to blame for this too.....

i personally think its all been blown out of proportion...
#36
Anyone seen the Family guy episode where everything is censored.... ? If we arent careful its going to be like that.
Seems people like to jump on bandwagons and get people in trouble because they dont like the presenter
#37
roryk83
He is an A-Hole - its no persona. And its because of the things he says that hes an A-hole. What he said was inappropriate and if it had been said about another more sympathetic group of people there would be a much larger public outcry.

It seems from your statement that racism in tv programmes can be condoned as long as its "funny"



Agreed, just substitute the word " prostitutes " with a racist one, then see what would have happened.
#38
so am i right in a group of *****s who **** stragners for money are moaning that he told a joke about a ***** killing truck driver

hmm i think i better go tell the newspapers about chubby brown making incest jokes

people that stoopid dont deserve air and should get a proper job too
#39
Ungreat




He made a reasonably funny generalisation about a workforce (lorry drivers) based on how they are portrayed and the stereotype in the media, not an ethnic minority.



In my book, there is no difference.
#40
fireexit
also people are forgetting that someoe had to sit and edit the programme and decide what was to be shown on national tv - iuts their job to cut out all the stuff that is likely to casue an offence... they left this in - isn't that showig their bad taste not just clarsksons - where is their hounding?!?! sureley they are as much to blame for this too.....

i personally think its all been blown out of proportion...


I don't think there is anything to assign blame over.

The comment was nothing, but because people are looking for something to be offended about they are jumping on it. If this is the furore over one minor joke I dread to think what will happen when 'Mock the Week' comes back. :roll:

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