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This is just crazy anyone else watching newsnight

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5y, 9m agoPosted 5 years, 9 months ago
We are giving our tax payers money to overseas aid to india who has a space and nuclear programme who then give aid to other countries.
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1 Like #1
I believe India is a massive emerging market so makes good sense to keep good relations.
2 Likes #2
Goonieman
I believe India is a massive emerging market so makes good sense to keep good relations.


plus a lot of them live here...
#3
Good relations i am glad you are happy that your tax is going to india so then they can give it to other countries.
banned 4 Likes #4
think of it as paying back a tiny percentage of the wealth the uk made of their backs during colonial times.
1 Like #5
dont believe everything you watch on tv
#6
archer1204
Good relations i am glad you are happy that your tax is going to india so then they can give it to other countries.

Did i say i was happy about it? But if we can recoup the cost of the aid with future trade would it not be worth it?
[Moderator]#7
I saw a program about this earlier.... The foreign aid to India is used to send children from poor families to school. If we didn't send it, then these kids might be recruited by terrorist groups, so the whole thing is treated as an anti-terrorism exercise.
#8
bykergrove
think of it as paying back a tiny percentage of the wealth the uk made of their backs during colonial times.


Two wrongs don't make a right..
Besides, seems we are the ones being colonised now.
#9
Goonieman
archer1204
Good relations i am glad you are happy that your tax is going to india so then they can give it to other countries.

Did i say i was happy about it? But if we can recoup the cost of the aid with future trade would it not be worth it?


good call
1 Like #10
Depends where our money goes. There are still enormous levels of poverty in India - only a very few are doing well at the moment. If we can prove our money is helping those who need it I have no qualms about it. If not, I blame Clegg.
2 Likes #11
thrustmaster

Two wrongs don't make a right..
Besides, seems we are the ones being colonised now.


Wow... Just.. Wow.

Tell you what, you should have been in my year 8 humanities class today on migration..
you might of actually leaned something.
banned 4 Likes #12
thrustmaster
bykergrove
think of it as paying back a tiny percentage of the wealth the uk made of their backs during colonial times.


Two wrongs don't make a right..
Besides, seems we are the ones being colonised now.


err what are you serious? you can't go in, rape a country for all it's worth for a couple of hundred years, destroy it's wealth and way of life then cut and run and say "oh well... sorry about that".

oh and don't cry when a few of them followed you home either.
#13
But China has alot of poverty yet we are withdrawing aid from them but still giving it to india even though they have more billionaires than we do.
#14
bigflump
I saw a program about this earlier.... The foreign aid to India is used to send children from poor families to school. If we didn't send it, then these kids might be recruited by terrorist groups, so the whole thing is treated as an anti-terrorism exercise.

educated terrorsits? lol jokin im sure some of the 9/11 terrorists were highly educated.

Edited By: DE4L3R on Mar 01, 2011 23:32
1 Like #15
i think we should give our money/aid to who we as individuals feel. I dont think the government should give taxpayers money to anyone but the people who live in poverty in our country. Educate someone over seas while closing our local libraries and cutting funding?
banned 1 Like #16
DE4L3R
i think we should give our money/aid to who we as individuals feel. I dont think the government should give taxpayers money to anyone but the people who live in poverty in our country. Educate someone over seas while closing our local libraries and cutting funding?


I think what many people fail to understand is that the UK doesn't send aid as a "haww... i have more than you hey have some of mine" kind of gesture. they have obligations and relationships to maintain.

they send the money so they can buy favour with these countries and their leaders. when it's not lucrative for them any more they'll stop. until then they'll carry on.

Our government isn't stupid they wouldn't waste tax payer's money by sending it abroad if instead they could line their own pockets.
banned 2 Likes #17
bykergrove
think of it as paying back a tiny percentage of the wealth the uk made of their backs during colonial times.


I suppose we couldnt have the wealth back we left in Egypt and proceeds from the canal we built?
#18
cnt believe everything the bbc say.
banned#19
guv
bykergrove
think of it as paying back a tiny percentage of the wealth the uk made of their backs during colonial times.


I suppose we couldnt have the wealth back we left in Egypt and proceeds from the canal we built?


and which canal would that be exactly?
banned#20
ok you're taking too long to reply

The British government had opposed the project of the canal from the outset to its completion. As one of the diplomatic moves against the canal, it disapproved the use of slave labor on the canal (slaves had been banned throughout Europe by 1830). The British Empire was the major global naval force and officially condemned the forced work and sent armed bedouins to start a revolt among workers. Involuntary labour on the project ceased, and the viceroy condemned the Corvée, halting the project.[44]
Angered by the British opportunism, de Lesseps sent a letter to the British government remarking on the British lack of remorse a few years earlier when forced workers died in similar conditions building the British railway in Egypt.
Initially international opinion was skeptical and Suez Canal Company shares did not sell well overseas. Britain, the United States, Austria and Russia did not buy any significant number of shares.[45] All French shares were quickly sold in France.



After the United Kingdom and the United States withdrew their pledge to support the construction of the Aswan Dam due to Egyptian overtures towards the Soviet Union, Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser nationalised the canal in 1956 and transferred it to the Suez Canal Authority, intending to finance the dam project using revenue from the canal. This led up to the Suez Crisis, in which the UK, France and Israel invaded Egypt. The intention was for Israel to invade on the ground, and for the Anglo-French partnership to give air and other support, later to intervene to resolve the crisis and control the canal.[citation needed]
To save the British from what he thought was a disastrous action, and to stop the war from a possible escalation, Canadian Secretary of State for External Affairs, Lester B. Pearson, proposed the creation of the very first United Nations peacekeeping force to ensure access to the canal for all and an Israeli withdrawal from the Sinai. On 4 November 1956, a majority of nations at the United Nations voted for Pearson's peacekeeping resolution, which mandated the UN peacekeepers to stay in the Sinai Peninsula unless both Egypt and Israel agreed to their withdrawal. The United States backed this proposal by putting pressure on the British government by selling Pounds, which would cause it to depreciate. Britain then agreed to withdraw its troops.



And I think they've more than made their money back in increased trade.

In a two-and-a-half hour speech delivered to a mass gathering in Alexandria, President Nasser said the Nationalisation Law had already been published in the official gazette.

He said all company assets in Egypt had been frozen and stockholders would be paid the price of their shares according to today's closing prices on the Paris Stock Exchange.


The Suez Canal is a key waterway for world trade and an important source of revenue for Britain.


He said 120,000 Egyptians had died building the canal but Egypt was receiving just a tiny proportion of the company's £35m annual earnings.


goodnight



Edited By: bykergrove on Mar 02, 2011 00:05: .
banned 2 Likes #21
LOL Selective snipping and pasting I see!

The canal was built by the French using slave labour which the UK was opposed to between 1859 and 1869. The success and advantages were clearly seen, particularly given the trade passage to third world countries like India and in 1875, the UK bought the shares to become the largest shareholder. (In case you didnt realise, that means we owned the canal because it was bought.)

In 1956 Egypt seized control, backed by your friends, the US controlling all trade through the canal.

I dont recall any payments being made for the seizure, nor any funds for the shipping travelling through the canal since it was seized.

Goodnight.
#22
India has aircraft carriers, the UK has none.

Speaks volumes.
#23
It'll be really handy for when England is crippled with debt and a loaf of bread cost £1500 and to fill a Nissan Micra cost £40000 and we have to beg countries like India and China (Who we have been giving overseas aid for years, even though they are hugely richer than us) for money (Overseas aid!). Nice one.
banned 1 Like #24
Haha... even added after saying goodnight too with more selective snipping and pasting!

Here's the gaps you missed from your own source. I wonder why! LOL


1956: Egypt seizes Suez Canal
Egypt's president, Colonel Gamal Abdel Nasser, has announced the nationalisation of the Suez Canal Company to provide funding for the construction of the Aswan High Dam.

The British Government and French stockholders who own shares in the Suez Canal Company have reacted with shock to the news.


Vehement criticism

Twelve Egyptians have been appointed members of a special board which will manage the newly-nationalised company.




The Suez Canal Company, which manages the waterway, is legally Egyptian but, in 1869 was granted a 99 years' concession.


It was not due to revert to the Egyptian Government until November 16, 1968.


President Nasser, who took control of Egypt following a Coup d'Etat four years ago, has been implementing a nationalisation programme in the country, and was vehement in his criticism of the West.


President Nasser's decision to nationalise the Suez Canal company comes following Britain and America's withdrawal of financial assistance towards the Aswan Dam.


Strangely you missed the above from your post........ naughty naughty. Now all you have to do is add it together.

here you go.... This URL has done it for you.


So now you know which canal I'm talking about.....

Hope that helps.
#25
India has Tendulkar
Inactive
India has aircraft carriers, the UK has none.

Speaks volumes.


India has Tendulkar too
banned 2 Likes #26
While we have so many in poverty in THIS country and so many problems we should cut all the aid we can to overseas countries and sort our problems out.

The UK after the US is probably the most hated country in the world, I don't think many would come rushing to us with aid if we were in need.
banned 1 Like #27
lol wut. The british ripped the eygyptians off (again) to buy those shares to become majority shareholders. So they could get to india faster so it wouldnt take as long to rip those guys off. Angels in your eyes though.

Anyway, I have better things to do than trade links and quotes with you. As everyone knows you're like a dog with a bone even when you're wrong.

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