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just got a parking ticket whilst attending college!!!

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banned6y, 8m agoPosted 6 years, 8 months ago
I attend evening courses in college so i can get a better future. Bearing in mind i can only just afford my course (as i'm 20, you pay adult prices if you're over 19) i've just been hit with a parking ticket for £80.

Now... is there any way on Gods green earth i can get out of it? The car park was full, bumper to bumper, so i parked on double yellow lines (within the college, as did many other drivers). Came back to my car 1.5 hours later only to find a ticket.

There must be some loophole. I cannot afford this, and i wasn't in anyones way, i have no idea why there are even double yellow lines there.

please help
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banned6y, 8m agoPosted 6 years, 8 months ago
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#1
no loophole am afraid - you will need to pay up.
#2
nope, cough up
#3
You can appeal but very seldom does anyone win!
#4
at uni i have to park a 20min walk away, traffic wardens are very keen. no real excuse
#5
no loophole although its harsh do the crime pay the fine
banned#6
What loophole?

You parked on double yellows and have admitted as such! Hopefully you will be savaged for your blatant stupidity.

And you can ram the blatant sob story

Lesson learned!
banned#7
it's absolute nonsense. There's no need for double yellow, i pay to go to the course. People park on double yellows all the time and don't get fined, it's just this week
#8
gooddeals9;8052573
it's absolute nonsense. There's no need for double yellow, i pay to go to the course. People park on double yellows all the time and don't get fined, it's just this week


financial year end's a coming :whistling:
banned#9
gooddeals9
it's absolute nonsense. There's no need for double yellow, i pay to go to the course. People park on double yellows all the time and don't get fined, it's just this week


Well there obviously there is a need or they wouldnt be there!

People doing it all the time doesnt excuse it. Nor does the fact that you pay to do the course. Everyone else in legitimate spaces pays too

Pay the fine and learn the lesson
#10
gooddeals9
it's absolute nonsense. There's no need for double yellow, i pay to go to the course. People park on double yellows all the time and don't get fined, it's just this week


Needed or not...double yellow lines mean no parking.
You broke the rules so you will have to pay up.
#11
gooddeals9
it's absolute nonsense. There's no need for double yellow, i pay to go to the course. People park on double yellows all the time and don't get fined, it's just this week



sorry but thats no excuse , people rob houses all the time does this mean its acceptable, you're not gonna get alot of sympathy for breaking the rules and expecting to have your fine waived
#12
shedboy66;8052609
sorry but thats no excuse , people rob houses all the time does this mean its acceptable


only in the apocalypse ;-)
#13
There are ways given that it is a civil ticket only.
#14
Bless..
[mod]#15
Nope. You have to pay up.
#16
You pay for your course not to park where you like.
#17
magicjay1986
Nope. You have to pay up.


Come on, you are a lawyer and whilst you shouldn't be giving advice on here, you probably can say that a £80 parking ticket from private land would be difficult to enforce.
banned#18
shedboy66
sorry but thats no excuse , people rob houses all the time does this mean its acceptable, you're not gonna get alot of sympathy for breaking the rules and expecting to have your fine waived


how you can compare a parking fine to a robbery is beyond me. get a grip
#19
thats why yellow lines are there for a reason!
im afraid u just have to pay up and hope thats a lesson learnt
#20
gooddeals9
how you can compare a parking fine to a robbery is beyond me. get a grip


no you need to get a grip double yellow lines are there for a reason i'm sure when you are £80 out of pocket you'll think twice about parking on them again, like i said before if you are prepared to break the law be prepared for the consequences
[mod]#21
pghstochaj
Come on, you are a lawyer and whilst you shouldn't be giving advice on here, you probably can say that a £80 parking ticket from private land would be difficult to enforce.


You know you are asking for trouble if you park on double yellow lines.

Whilst I agree that some of these circumstances are unfair, I will not tolerate excuses when people know what they have done is wrong.

If the OP had said he entered an unlit carpark and then later found his car clamped I would have some sympathy. Parking on a double yellow line is a COMPLETELY different story.
#22
Appeal it, but I'd refrain from telling them the yellow lines shouldn't be there :thumbsup:
#23
magicjay1986
You know you are asking for trouble if you park on double yellow lines.

Whilst I agree that some of these circumstances are unfair, I will not tolerate excuses when people know what they have done is wrong.

If the OP had said he entered an unlit carpark and then later found his car clamped I would have some sympathy. Parking on a double yellow line is a COMPLETELY different story.


Whether it is right or wrong doesn't change the law regarding contracts though.
banned#24
This place amazes me sometimes.

You parked on double yellows. If you cant afford it, maybe you could consider not parking on double yellows in future.
#25
Simply, if it is a ticket from a private company, then it is a SCAM. They have NO BASIS IN LAW to fine you. It's a con, ignore all correspondence from them.

If it is a council ticket, it's a bit harder, but many appeals are won.
#26
If its a private car park then you don't have to pay, simples
[mod]#27
pghstochaj
Whether it is right or wrong doesn't change the law regarding contracts though.


All I am saying is that if you park on double yellow lines (regardless of the law) you should be prepared to deal with any repurcussions. If by dealing you take legal advice, so be it.
#28
peodude
Simply, if it is a ticket from a private company, then it is a SCAM. They have NO BASIS IN LAW to fine you. It's a con, ignore all correspondence from them.

If it is a council ticket, it's a bit harder, but many appeals are won.


Contract law!!?
#29
magicjay1986
All I am saying is that if you park on double yellow lines (regardless of the law) you should be prepared to deal with any repurcussions. If by dealing you take legal advice, so be it.


The only yellow lines that have any legal standing are those on public roads. Those on private land are nothing more than graffiti.
banned#30
magicjay1986
All I am saying is that if you park on double yellow lines (regardless of the law) you should be prepared to deal with any repurcussions. If by dealing you take legal advice, so be it.


I understand what you mean MJ, and I think its even more crazy if you believe the financial plight of the OP - why on earth would you even risk it?!

What goes through the minds of these people?!
#31
Try studying in the middle of the lake district, parking is a nightmare and a furtune (paying for it and getting tickets!).

Sorry though, you parked on double yellows. No way out me thinks.
#32
If there's anything you can do, what you can do may depend on whether it's a privately run carpark or not.

It may also count if the car park and ticketing is run to the letter of the law. If they want you to obey the rules, then so should they.

Here's a few links I found that may help:

According to Moneysaving Expert, around 65% of ALL parking tickets are INVALID - and can be overturned with one simple letter! - http://www.beatparkingticket.co.uk/parking/?pu=false

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/private-parking-tickets

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/parking-ticket-appeals

http://www.which.co.uk/advice/how-to-appeal-a-parking-ticket/index.jsp

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences/24779-help-parking-ticket.html

The very best of luck!
#33
pghstochaj
Contract law!!?


Nope, not even in contract law.

Contract law allows them to issue you an INVOICE, which you agreed to on parking, technically, if the owners can prove who was driving, that you read and agreed to the signs, and prove that their price is reasonable, which they can't.

Private companies are not allowed to issue fines or penalties.
banned#34
Fluffykins
If there's anything you can do, what you can do may depend on whether it's a privately run carpark or not.

It may also count if the car park and ticketing is run to the letter of the law. If they want you to obey the rules, then so should they.

Here's a few links I found that may help:

According to Moneysaving Expert, around 65% of ALL parking tickets are INVALID - and can be overturned with one simple letter! - http://www.beatparkingticket.co.uk/parking/?pu=false

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/private-parking-tickets

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/parking-ticket-appeals

http://www.which.co.uk/advice/how-to-appeal-a-parking-ticket/index.jsp

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-offences/24779-help-parking-ticket.html

The very best of luck!


^ Yeah lets ask professional ******** merchant Martin for his take. He'll know. The arrogant ********.
[mod]#35
peodude
The only yellow lines that have any legal standing are those on public roads. Those on private land are nothing more than graffiti.


I would still not do it.

It would cost you more in telephone calls, postage and travel to actually defend your position than it would be to find a closer car park and pay to park there for an hour or so.
[mod]#36
vibeone
I understand what you mean MJ, and I think its even more crazy if you believe the financial plight of the OP - why on earth would you even risk it?!

What goes through the minds of these people?!


Regardless of the law, I have no sympathy. The lines are there for a reason.

If people do not want someone to do something on their land they should be allowed to pass on the consequence.
#37
If this site is to be believed you may have an argument if there is no "prominent and easily observed signage warning that unauthorised parking will result in a charge."
http://www.nationalparkingcontrol.co.uk/ethics.asp
[mod]#38
Plum
If this site is to be believed you may have an argument if there is no "prominent and easily observed signage warning that unauthorised parking will result in a charge."
http://www.nationalparkingcontrol.co.uk/ethics.asp


If you are only referring to that section, then ok.

Regarding the trespass point on that link (in case anyone is wondering)...you are not trespassing if you have been given permission to be on the property. The OP is enrolled on a college course so he has permission to be on the premises.
#39
vibeone

^ Yeah lets ask professional ******** merchant Martin for his take. He'll know. The arrogant ********.


Wasn't that just a teeny bit arrogant as well?

Arrogant or not; if the man knows how to get out of this hole, so well and good. He's the one who's built the reputation on what he's achieved.

Here's a bit more, from: http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=74248


These companies managing private car parks have precious little on which to base a demand for money. "Penalties" or fines cannot be charged where no offence has been proved in a court of law. "Parking charges" are just that, and if challenged, the management would need to prove (a) that a contract has been entered into (and, as others here have pointed out, such a contract could exist only with the driver at the time) and (b) that the contract was a fair and reasonable one. (Often the parking charge they attempt to levy is extortionately high.)

My approach would be to refuse to nominate the driver (legally you do not have to) and refuse to pay. The worst that could happen would be that you might be taken to court and would be able to challenge the validity and terms of the contract, and, if the court decided a contract had indeed been entered into, you could offer to pay a reasonable amount. Probably the best thing to do is - nothing; there's no point in writing complicated letters that might turn out to be the beginning of a long and stressful correspondence.

It seems most parking management companies do not, as a matter of policy, pursue the matter - it's too much hassle and the outcome is unlikely to be in their favour.

You can only be "fined" for parking by local authorities and the police.

Any other "parking ticket" issued by a private parking company is merely an invoice demanding money for an alleged breach of contact. In order for the contract to be formed the parking company assume you have read their signage and accept the contract "offered" by the sign. The main difficulty for them is proving that this is the case.

Private parking companies rarely go to court (and when they do the majority do not attend the hearing or the case is thrown out), Excel were in the press recently when they did try court action and lost.

Because the documentation issued by these companies is not much more than a mail scam which demands money, the advice generally given is to ignore the letters they send despite the fact they often get scarier and scarier with their threats.

At some point they often "pass" the case to "debt collection company" which again has no legal powers to obtain money claimed to be owed. Again another set of threatening letters is their only recourse.

The "debt collectors" can usually be just another desk in the private parking company office.

Go to the Pepipoo parking forum and you will see there are 100s of these companies which claim to have some legal right to your money when they in fact do not. By all means post your query there and you will see you are being scammed.

In a lot of instances the private companies will misquote legislation in an attempt to appear to have some legal status to their claim and a number have been reported to Trading Standards and the Police by Pepipoo members.
#40
magicjay1986
...you should post more often :thumbsup:


+1 lol

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