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Microsoft’s just confirmed a £129 price-point for Kinect in the UK. The sensor will cost $149 in the US and €149 in mainland Europe. Microsoft has also confirmed the previously rumoured 4GB 360 A… Read More
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banned7y, 2d agoPosted 7 years, 2 days ago
Microsoft’s just confirmed a £129 price-point for Kinect in the UK. The sensor will cost $149 in the US and €149 in mainland Europe.

Microsoft has also confirmed the previously rumoured 4GB 360 Arcade replacement.

The console, Kinect and Kinect Adventures packaged together is to cost £250.

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banned7y, 2d agoPosted 7 years, 2 days ago
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banned#1
#2
$149 in US
£129 in UK

Hmmmmmmmmmmm
#3
Live rates at 2010.07.20 19:28:00 UTC
149.00 USD = 97.5808 GBP
United States Dollars United Kingdom Pounds
1 USD = 0.654904 GBP 1 GBP = 1.52694 USD
#4
splatsplatsplat
Live rates at 2010.07.20 19:28:00 UTC
149.00 USD = 97.5808 GBP
United States Dollars United Kingdom Pounds
1 USD = 0.654904 GBP 1 GBP = 1.52694 USD


= No fanks.
#5
Should be £100 max over here. Should be that price by Christmas anyway.
banned#6
It is a bit steep, but it is for two active players i suppose.
#7
splatsplatsplat
splatsplatsplat
Live rates at 2010.07.20 19:28:00 UTC
149.00 USD = 97.5808 GBP
United States Dollars United Kingdom Pounds
1 USD = 0.654904 GBP 1 GBP = 1.52694 USD


= No fanks.


= par for the course mate.
#8
rip off, ill be cancelling my pre order...
suspended#9
Very high price for something that already reeks of fail.
#10
It also comes with kinect adventures For £129.99
[mod]#11
Rip off.
#12
Mind you, nintendo are guilty of the same thing. I mean, who bought a 2nd controller (probably wii play £25), then had to buy a 2nd nunchuck (£15), then bought wii sports resort (£25) to get one dongle, then bought another motion plus dongle(£15). Then you realise after £80 spent, so two kids can play each other, nintendo have just shafted you in the ass, cause you can only really play a few crappy sports games and haven't bothered to roll out any more decent motion plus stuff. Usual nintendo attitude, make more hardware instead of more games.
#13
splatsplatsplat
Live rates at 2010.07.20 19:28:00 UTC
149.00 USD = 97.5808 GBP
United States Dollars United Kingdom Pounds
1 USD = 0.654904 GBP 1 GBP = 1.52694 USD


Yeah, but factor in VAT and you're up to £120, and UK consumer rights (Americans don't really get any), and £130 sounds about right. It's not a rip-off, and Microsoft might well be making a loss on the hardware. It seems reasonable enough to me.
#14
splatsplatsplat
Mind you, nintendo are guilty of the same thing. I mean, who bought a 2nd controller (probably wii play £25), then had to buy a 2nd nunchuck (£15), then bought wii sports resort (£25) to get one dongle, then bought another motion plus dongle(£15). Then you realise after £80 spent, so two kids can play each other, nintendo have just shafted you in the ass, cause you can only really play a few crappy sports games and haven't bothered to roll out any more decent motion plus stuff. Usual nintendo attitude, make more hardware instead of more games.



3 extra wii motes for £75 gives 4 players the choice of most games on a Wii as most games don't require additional nunchucks or motion plus.
1 Like #15
the price is fine, no problem
#16
Americans have to pay tax on top of their price too...
#17
I won't be an early adopter at this price but I'll be keeping a close eye on how the technology is applied. If an essential game is released I might reconsider at £99.99, but otherwise £79.99 is the most i'm willing to spend on a 'party' accessory.
suspended#18
dxx
splatsplatsplat
Live rates at 2010.07.20 19:28:00 UTC
149.00 USD = 97.5808 GBP
United States Dollars United Kingdom Pounds
1 USD = 0.654904 GBP 1 GBP = 1.52694 USD


Yeah, but factor in VAT and you're up to £120, and UK consumer rights (Americans don't really get any), and £130 sounds about right. It's not a rip-off, and Microsoft might well be making a loss on the hardware. It seems reasonable enough to me.


Why would Microsoft release a product that will only make them lose money? Cmon xbox users should know by now that Microsoft always sucks up loads of money.
#19
NO THANKS. X)


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suspended#20
chelskii
DarkKnight
Very high price for something that already reeks of fail.


DarkKnight

Why would Microsoft release a product that will only make them lose money? Cmon xbox users should know by now that Microsoft always sucks up loads of money.


Why would Sony release a product that will only make them lose money? Cmon PS3 users should know by now that Sony always sucks up loads of money, look at the hidden costs of Move it reeks of fail.

Do you ever stop going on about Microsoft ?.
Microsoft like Sony, yes SONY both release hardware products that lose them money as do the makers of printers etc they make their money firstly from the software, accessories and eventually the hardware itself.


I never mentioned Sony in my comment, yes i think the Move will be better than the Kinect, mostly due to the games available, but i did not speak that in my comment.

So Microsoft are losing money from releasing a small plastic box with a sensor inside? It will probably cost them a tenner to make it.
banned#21
LOL @ 4gb console!
1 Like #22
Reckon i'll wait a while and just buy one later from HUKD when its gone cheap ;)
banned#23
spike1985
Reckon i'll wait a while and just buy one later from HUKD when its discontinued ;)


Corrected
#24
even using google exchange rate it will be cheaper getting it from amazon in germany than the uk
#25
DarkKnight
dxx
splatsplatsplat
Live rates at 2010.07.20 19:28:00 UTC
149.00 USD = 97.5808 GBP
United States Dollars United Kingdom Pounds
1 USD = 0.654904 GBP 1 GBP = 1.52694 USD


Yeah, but factor in VAT and you're up to £120, and UK consumer rights (Americans don't really get any), and £130 sounds about right. It's not a rip-off, and Microsoft might well be making a loss on the hardware. It seems reasonable enough to me.


Why would Microsoft release a product that will only make them lose money? Cmon xbox users should know by now that Microsoft always sucks up loads of money.


It's common practice in the games industry. Companies don't make money out of the initial hardware sale, they sell them as a loss-leader to encourage greater adoption, which in turn sells more games, which is where the real money comes from. Whether Microsoft are making a loss on this or not I don't really know, and I think it depends on how hopeful they are of it gaining pace and being something that people actually buy games for.
banned#26
deleting posts that people have quoted makes you look very silly indeed.
People will think you have no faith in your own comments.
But hey ho.:p
suspended#27
dxx
DarkKnight
dxx
splatsplatsplat
Live rates at 2010.07.20 19:28:00 UTC
149.00 USD = 97.5808 GBP
United States Dollars United Kingdom Pounds
1 USD = 0.654904 GBP 1 GBP = 1.52694 USD


Yeah, but factor in VAT and you're up to £120, and UK consumer rights (Americans don't really get any), and £130 sounds about right. It's not a rip-off, and Microsoft might well be making a loss on the hardware. It seems reasonable enough to me.


Why would Microsoft release a product that will only make them lose money? Cmon xbox users should know by now that Microsoft always sucks up loads of money.


It's common practice in the games industry. Companies don't make money out of the initial hardware sale, they sell them as a loss-leader to encourage greater adoption, which in turn sells more games, which is where the real money comes from. Whether Microsoft are making a loss on this or not I don't really know, and I think it depends on how hopeful they are of it gaining pace and being something that people actually buy games for.


For something that has a lot of features, and a lot of kit inside the box such as a gaming console, then yes they will very likely make little to no profits for the start.
But we are talking about a small plastic box here, if anybody really thinks it costs Microsoft more than £130 to chuck a sensor and a few flashy lights inside a box, made from people earning a few pence an hour in China, really need to do some research.
#28
DarkKnight
For something that has a lot of features, and a lot of kit inside the box such as a gaming console, then yes they will very likely make little to no profits for the start.
But we are talking about a small plastic box here, if anybody really thinks it costs Microsoft more than £130 to chuck a sensor and a few flashy lights inside a box, made from people earning a few pence an hour in China, really need to do some research.


Well, hang on - my new processor came in a small cardboard box the other week. Cardboard, man, not even plastic. Are you telling me that the value of what's inside the box is directly related to the materials on the outside of it? I paid over a hundred squiddies. Was I ripped off? Or is your dismissal of the value of the Kinetic as simply a "small plastic box" simply absurd, bordering on delusional? *strokes chin*

Let's see, then:


Wikipedia

The Kinect sensor[3] is a horizontal bar connected to a small base with a motorized pivot, and is designed to be positioned lengthwise below the video display. The device features an "RGB camera, depth sensor and multi-array microphone running proprietary software",[8] which provides full-body 3D motion capture, facial recognition, and voice recognition capabilities. The Kinect sensor's microphone array enables the Xbox 360 to conduct acoustic source localization and ambient noise suppression, allowing for things such as headset-free party chat over Xbox Live.[3]

The depth sensor consists of an infrared projector combined with a monochrome CMOS sensor, and allows the Kinect sensor to see in 3D under any ambient light conditions.[3][9] The sensing range of the depth sensor is adjustable, with the Kinect software capable of automatically calibrating the sensor based on gameplay and the player's physical environment, such as the presence of chairs.[10]

Kinect is based on software technology developed internally by Microsoft and range camera technology by Israeli developer PrimeSense, which interprets 3D scene information from a continuously-projected infrared pattern.[11][12]

Described by Microsoft personnel as the primary innovation of Kinect,[13][14][15][16] the software technology enables advanced gesture recognition, facial recognition, and voice recognition.[17] According to information supplied to retailers, the Kinect is capable of simultaneously tracking up to six people, including two active players for motion analysis with a feature extraction of 20 joints per player.[18] Depending on the person's distance from the sensor, Kinect is capable of tracking models that can identify individual fingers.[9][17]

According to information supplied to retailers, the Kinect sensor outputs video at a frame rate of 30 Hz, with the RGB video stream at 32-bit color VGA resolution (640×480 pixels), and the monochrome video stream used for depth sensing at 16-bit QVGA resolution (320×240 pixels with 65,536 levels of sensitivity). The Kinect sensor has a practical ranging limit of 1.2–3.5 metres (3.9–11 ft) distance. The sensor has an angular field of view of 57° horizontally and a 43° vertically, while the motorized pivot is capable of tilting the sensor as much as 27° either up or down. The microphone array features four microphone capsules,[19] and operates with each channel processing 16-bit audio at a sampling rate of 16 kHz.[18]

Because the Kinect sensor's motorized tilt mechanism requires more power than can be supplied via the Xbox 360's USB ports,[20] the Kinect sensor features a special connector combining USB communication with additional power. Redesigned "Xbox 360 S" models include special AUX ports for accommodating the connector,[21] whereas older models require a special power supply cable (included with the sensor[19]) which splits the connection into separate USB and power connections, with the USB connecting to the console and the power being supplied from the mains by way of an AC adapter.[20]


More information will emerge once the likes of iSupply get their hands on one and rip it apart, but it sounds like quite an involved "small plastic box", don't you think? And that software doesn't sound like the sort of thing a studio can pump out for free.
suspended#29
dxx

Well, hang on - my new processor came in a small cardboard box the other week. Cardboard, man, not even plastic. Are you telling me that the value of what's inside the box is directly related to the materials on the outside of it? I paid over a hundred squiddies. Was I ripped off? Or is your dismissal of the value of the Kinetic as simply a "small plastic box" simply absurd, bordering on delusional? *strokes chin*



You seem to not understand. I was talking about the product itself, not it's packaging like bubble wrap or something.
#30
DarkKnight
dxx

Well, hang on - my new processor came in a small cardboard box the other week. Cardboard, man, not even plastic. Are you telling me that the value of what's inside the box is directly related to the materials on the outside of it? I paid over a hundred squiddies. Was I ripped off? Or is your dismissal of the value of the Kinetic as simply a "small plastic box" simply absurd, bordering on delusional? *strokes chin*



You seem to not understand. I was talking about the product itself, not it's packaging like bubble wrap or something.


No, I understood your point, I was just ridiculing it because it was so stupid.
#31
I won't be buying it at that price, and i'm not interested in Move tbh. i'll save my pennies for a 3DS
banned#32
lol @ £129. the most I'd pay for it is £10, it doesn't actually do a lot and has failed so many times in demos already. I'd rather sit down with a controller and kills noobx in mw2 than jump around like an idiot with a virtual tiger
suspended#33
dxx
DarkKnight
dxx

Well, hang on - my new processor came in a small cardboard box the other week. Cardboard, man, not even plastic. Are you telling me that the value of what's inside the box is directly related to the materials on the outside of it? I paid over a hundred squiddies. Was I ripped off? Or is your dismissal of the value of the Kinetic as simply a "small plastic box" simply absurd, bordering on delusional? *strokes chin*



You seem to not understand. I was talking about the product itself, not it's packaging like bubble wrap or something.


No, I understood your point, I was just ridiculing it because it was so stupid.


It's not stupid, it's basic primary school level facts.
X Company uses plastic (Very cheap material) for case, a few sensors, computer chips etc inside (Again, pretty cheap to make)
And then where is it all produced? China. Where it would cost about 50p in labour costs per item.

Where would you get £130 in production costs for this?
Lets take the Playstation Eyetoy for example, this does basically the same thing as a Kinect, it requires a camera and tracks your movements without a handheld controller.
How much did that cost? Was it £130?

Simples.
1 Like #34
DarkKnight

Where would you get £130 in production costs for this?
Lets take the Playstation Eyetoy for example, this does basically the same thing as a Kinect, it requires a camera and tracks your movements without a handheld controller.
How much did that cost? Was it £130?

Simples.
they are trting to recover some if their r and d costs. once they get some of it back they will drop the price.
1 Like #35
DarkKnight
dxx
DarkKnight
dxx

Well, hang on - my new processor came in a small cardboard box the other week. Cardboard, man, not even plastic. Are you telling me that the value of what's inside the box is directly related to the materials on the outside of it? I paid over a hundred squiddies. Was I ripped off? Or is your dismissal of the value of the Kinetic as simply a "small plastic box" simply absurd, bordering on delusional? *strokes chin*



You seem to not understand. I was talking about the product itself, not it's packaging like bubble wrap or something.


No, I understood your point, I was just ridiculing it because it was so stupid.


It's not stupid, it's basic primary school level facts.
X Company uses plastic (Very cheap material) for case, a few sensors, computer chips etc inside (Again, pretty cheap to make)
And then where is it all produced? China. Where it would cost about 50p in labour costs per item.

Where would you get £130 in production costs for this?
Lets take the Playstation Eyetoy for example, this does basically the same thing as a Kinect, it requires a camera and tracks your movements without a handheld controller.
How much did that cost? Was it £130?

Simples.


sad
banned#36
deathtrap3000
DarkKnight

Where would you get £130 in production costs for this?
Lets take the Playstation Eyetoy for example, this does basically the same thing as a Kinect, it requires a camera and tracks your movements without a handheld controller.
How much did that cost? Was it £130?

Simples.
they are trting to recover some if their r and d costs. once they get some of it back they will drop the price.


Yeah, they bought the company that invented the technology, so add that to the R&D, once they've covered those costs they should reduce the price, probably next E3?
1 Like #37
DarkKnight
Where would you get £130 in production costs for this?
Lets take the Playstation Eyetoy for example, this does basically the same thing as a Kinect, it requires a camera and tracks your movements without a handheld controller.
How much did that cost? Was it £130?

Simples.


"Does basically the same thing" is a bit of a stretch. My mate's nylon-strung acoustic guitar does "basically the same thing" as my Gibson Les Paul, and his 14" TV does ditto as my 40" telly, although there's a bit of a difference in how they do it, and the quality of what they produce.

Anyway, I'm curious. Why are you so invested in putting the Kinect down? You seem to have written rather a lot of posts about it. Do you even own an Xbox 360? I know you have a PS3. You aren't one of those fanboi types, are you?
1 Like #38
DarkKnight

It's not stupid, it's basic primary school level facts.


"facts"

Until you can get the manufacturer cost, then it might be a slight fact.

You're missing years of development, design costs, then code and testing, and the fact that it isn't some "plastic" box.
suspended#39
dxx
"Does basically the same thing" is a bit of a stretch. My mate's nylon-strung acoustic guitar does "basically the same thing" as my Gibson Les Paul, and his 14" TV does ditto as my 40" telly, although there's a bit of a difference in how they do it, and the quality of what they produce.

Anyway, I'm curious. Why are you so invested in putting the Kinect down? You seem to have written rather a lot of posts about it. Do you even own an Xbox 360? I know you have a PS3. You aren't one of those fanboi types, are you?


Because it sucks.
No i'm not a fanboy, i just think that £130 (More than many gaming consoles) is a stupid price and no doubt a lot of sheep would buy it, but if it was around £30-£35 then i wouldn't be so negative about it.
At least the Japanese companies have the decency of charging a more reasonable price for their motion technology.

Wotwot123
"facts"

Until you can get the manufacturer cost, then it might be a slight fact.

You're missing years of development, design costs, then code and testing, and the fact that it isn't some "plastic" box.


Like i've previously mentioned, The Playstation Eye, and the Eyetoy before that have never been anywhere near this price. yet they had to also go through lots of development and testing. And there are many other examples from Nintendo i could use.
#40
by consle does it mean the new s the 250gb one if it is i will get that bundle

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