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LA only offering 2 hours of Education a week seems very unfair.

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On Monday my boy is starting the first of a series of major operations to his legs, his shin bones are going to be severed and then rotated 20 degrees in wards and fused with a steel plate and pins. a…
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1m, 5d agoPosted 1 month, 5 days ago
On Monday my boy is starting the first of a series of major operations to his legs, his shin bones are going to be severed and then rotated 20 degrees in wards and fused with a steel plate and pins. after numerous months of recovery they will then be removed then months later physio will start to help him walk again, followed by another procedure on his thighs.. I am literally in tears this week over what he has to go through.. but it should hopefully help him walk without any or at least less pain than he has now.. as well as cosmetic reasons..

This is of course is meaning he is going to be off school for a long time, today we spoke with his school and they at first said if he was off for less than 8 weeks then they offer no home tuition he basically misses those 8 weeks..

but my son will be off for at least 4 months.. they said they can provide 2 hours a week in tuition, and thats it, due to funding.. and once he returns to school because the school has no disabled facilities he will be placed into a classroom on his own and have to do every lesson like that, they said that a risk assessment would be completed but they expect he would have to spend his school time in one environment away from other children.. while he may get 1-1 support I very much doubt he will and might be dumped a load of work and forgotten about.

Now I am not sure here but doesn't the LA have an obligation to provide him a full time education? and isn't placing him in an excluded environment discriminating against him..

I am not trying to cause upset here and the school was very helpful and accommodating to an extent, but I feel very strongly about the lack of education he will be offered, I can try and home school him of course, but I have neither the knowledge or experience to fulfil his educational needs correctly.. I am worried also for him as he is very intelligent, out of his entire year he placed 1st in numeracy skills and english lit something I am massively proud of, so I do not want his abilities going to waste..

anyone aware of a similar situation?
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1m, 5d agoPosted 1 month, 5 days ago
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I am shocked and hope you find a solution. Good luck with the operation and resolving your issue.
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Good luck with the op and the recovery. I'm a retired teacher and I would be willing to help. I'm in Norwich if that's nearby, I'd be happy to help.
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haritori
13norfolk
Good luck with the op and the recovery. I'm a retired teacher and I would be willing to help. I'm in Norwich if that's nearby, I'd be happy to help.
Appreciated thank you but.. ;)http://i63.tinypic.com/2u455jb.jpg
OldEnglish
Hope all goes well with your lads operation mate. All the best. ;)
Thanks :)

Posting this on behalf of norfy...

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Lovely offer though norfy <3
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13norfolk
Good luck with the op and the recovery. I'm a retired teacher and I would be willing to help. I'm in Norwich if that's nearby, I'd be happy to help.

Appreciated thank you but.. ;)

http://i63.tinypic.com/2u455jb.jpg

OldEnglish
Hope all goes well with your lads operation mate. All the best. ;)

Thanks :)
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haritori
13norfolk
Good luck with the op and the recovery. I'm a retired teacher and I would be willing to help. I'm in Norwich if that's nearby, I'd be happy to help.
Appreciated thank you but.. ;)

http://i63.tinypic.com/2u455jb.jpg

OldEnglish
Hope all goes well with your lads operation mate. All the best. ;)
Thanks :)
We could get mutley and 'her' private jet....

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I am shocked and hope you find a solution. Good luck with the operation and resolving your issue.
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my daughter's school seems only to be interested in her budget from the LA to use for new playgrounds etc...she is not included in most activities and I have to constantly ask the teachers why she is not getting the same quality of education as her nondisabled peers
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OMG, what a distressing tale, sorry I can't offer any advice but hopefully someone can help!
Good-luck to your brave son regarding his operation and recovery...I hope all goes well for you both!
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Can't offer much help hari, but I hope you can get this sorted.
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Sorry to hear about your son & the trials he has to go through.

Best of luck & wishes
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Is there no way of pushing it back so he'd recuperate over the summer holidays? At least that way there's 6 less weeks of schooling missed.

Other than that I can't offer much. He sounds like a bright lad so he shouldn't fall too far behind, the teachers will provide most of the work he'd miss I'd assume and then it comes down to what he can do on his own. If he likes reading then it could be a fantastic time to blast through a ton of classics which I'd have loved at that age.

If tutoring is an option then it might help but depending on what age he is, he most likely won't fall behind much if at all.

Edited By: HotEnglishAndWelshDeals on Jan 18, 2017 17:34
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Sorry to hear of your predicament but welcome to the world of profit before education.
With the continuous move towards privately run academies, this will happen more often as your child is seen less as a pupil and more of a means to generate revenue.
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how old is your son?
could you contact you local sw department?
situations like this mad me mad, we can't a boy who wants to learn who will miss school through no fault of his and who's parent(s) clearly want what's best, meanwhile we give give give and tun after those who waste their educational opportunites providing taxi's and escorts to "support" them going to school..... my mistake that money must be "from a different budget"
have you spoken to your local mp?
failing that take it to the papers, it's about time people woke up and realise most of the help doesn't go to those who genuinley desrve it.
are schools allowed to not have disbled provisions in place?
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stuarthanley
Sorry to hear of your predicament but welcome to the world of profit before education.
With the continuous move towards privately run academies, this will happen more often as your child is seen less as a pupil and more of a means to generate revenue.
drop the politics.
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davewave
stuarthanley
Sorry to hear of your predicament but welcome to the world of profit before education.
With the continuous move towards privately run academies, this will happen more often as your child is seen less as a pupil and more of a means to generate revenue.
drop the politics.

Quite. There's a time and a place to shoehorn politics in. Threads about kids ain't one of them.
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I am not sure if they are legally obliged to provide lessons or how much while he is off but i would be contacting my MP and the CAB to find out,have you looked into any available grants or charities that could offer any extra tuition?,as for provision for him on returning to school, it seems sad but it makes sense that they will have to keep him safe even if it means "solitary" for him, all you can do is keep on top of it and remember the squeaky wheel gets the oil.
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HotEnglishAndWelshDeals
Is there no way of pushing it back so he'd recuperate over the summer holidays? At least that way there's 6 less weeks of schooling missed.
Other than that I can't offer much. He sounds like a bright lad so he shouldn't fall too far behind, the teachers will provide most of the work he'd miss I'd assume and then it comes down to what he can do on his own. If he likes reading then it could be a fantastic time to blast through a ton of classics which I'd have loved at that age.
If tutoring is an option then it might help but depending on what age he is, he most likely won't fall behind much if at all.

This was suppose to happen last summer, but it was delayed they then wanted to do it September which i refused as it was his first year at secondary, we have been told the older he gets the worse recovery will be and it was postponed until December but the air purification filter was faulty in the theater and again delayed until this coming Monday.. so its no longer really an issue of dates anything could happen to delay it again.. and i think my boy is eager to now just get in there and have it done..




little_green
how old is your son?
could you contact you local sw department?
situations like this mad me mad, we can't a boy who wants to learn who will miss school through no fault of his and who's parent(s) clearly want what's best, meanwhile we give give give and tun after those who waste their educational opportunites providing taxi's and escorts to "support" them going to school..... my mistake that money must be "from a different budget"
have you spoken to your local mp?
failing that take it to the papers, it's about time people woke up and realise most of the help doesn't go to those who genuinley desrve it.
are schools allowed to not have disbled provisions in place?

He is 12, and we literally only found out this info today.. I will be looking more into it, but this week my heads all over the place with arrangements and I am gogin to have to do a 200 mile round trip daily for 14 days while sorting the kids at home out too with school and meal etc.. but as soon as the mad bit is out of the way and i have his home care sorted ill be at the Local Authorities door to sort it out.

Also the school is currently building a brand new one next door which will have disabled facilities etc.. which doesn't help us right now, but i suspect it will be their get out clause on my case, with a coming soon responses.
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Hi I have some experience previously for my daughter. The school should be able to provide work for your son for all lessons and for all subjects he does. This should tie in with the same lesson plans other students are following but the work can be offered in different ways for him. The school can be given the work to mark and return promptly. Any 1-1 time should be to help with difficult or key subjects for him. 2 hours does not seem enough i would contact the LA directly and possibly the special needs department as this will apply short term to him. Our school did provide some of the workbooks where you fill in the gaps which although not ideal can keep youngsters on track.


Edited By: tinars on Jan 18, 2017 17:54
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I am sure you have already, but its probably worth posting this same question on Mumsnet to ensure you get the broadest reach.
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davewave
I am sure you have already, but its probably worth posting this same question on Mumsnet to ensure you get the broadest reach.

I haven't I dont have a mumsnet account lol.. id rather steer clear of that one :D
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Regarding the medical issue - sorry to hear about the impending surgery and recovery process. Always a worrying time for a parent, however major or minor.

Regarding the education issue - could you tap into the local retired or semi-retired teacher population? Maybe a chat with some of the teachers that you are on good terms with at the school could lead to contact details of a kind-hearted old colleague(s) for a few hours a week. Alternatively, a social media request could lead to a retired teacher willing to help out, or a family member bringing it to their attention. Doesn't sound like he needs his hand held constantly, so maybe you could liase between a school providing you with the current curricular and an ex-professional providing a little guidance each week. Not ideal, but could be sufficient for a few months.
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It sounds like you value this schools contribution which is a good thing, as I've seen some terrible schools/teachers in my time that have no interest in what children learn.

I don't really have a solution but perhaps a work around.. Its unlikely he would fall behind too much in 4 months but it's understandable for you to be worried.

Perhaps work with the school to come up with a project or three that he can work on at home, and will both keep his mind engaged and keep his abilities sharp? Reading lots of books at a higher level, creative writing, using mathematics as part of a larger design project (creating a piece of software or computer game can be good options that do not require much moving around), preferably something that would offer an end product he can be proud of. Perhaps the 2 hours 1 to 1 tuition can also cover steering him in the right direction with the projects he is working on, even better if it can be used in future towards any exams or grades on the horizon? (not sure how old he is)..

I would suggest you would need to be involved and provide encouragement, but you can't really go wrong, learning outside of the curriculum is still learning and worthwhile!

In any case best of luck.

Edited By: delusion on Jan 18, 2017 18:00
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Saturn
Regarding the medical issue - sorry to hear about the impending surgery and recovery process. Always a worrying time for a parent, however major or minor.
Regarding the education issue - could you tap into the local retired or semi-retired teacher population? Maybe a chat with some of the teachers that you are on good terms with at the school could lead to contact details of a kind-hearted old colleague(s) for a few hours a week. Alternatively, a social media request could lead to a retired teacher willing to help out, or a family member bringing it to their attention. Doesn't sound like he needs his hand held constantly, so maybe you could liase between a school providing you with the current curricular and an ex-professional providing a little guidance each week. Not ideal, but could be sufficient for a few months.

Thats a good suggestion, I will look into it..

we are going to get the school ot provide his current work plan and hopefully liaise like you say get his work marked etc..



delusion
It sounds like you value this schools contribution which is a good thing, as I've seen some terrible schools/teachers in my time that have no interest in what children learn.
I don't really have a solution but perhaps a work around.. Its unlikely he would fall behind too much in 4 months but it's understandable for you to be worried.
Perhaps work with the school to come up with a project or three that he can work on at home, and will both keep his mind engaged and keep his abilities sharp? Reading lots of books at a higher level, creative writing, using mathematics as part of a larger design project (creating a piece of software or computer game can be good options that do not require much moving around), preferably something that would offer an end product he can be proud of. Perhaps the 2 hours 1 to 1 tuition can also cover steering him in the right direction with the projects he is working on, even better if it can be used in future towards any exams grades on the horizon? (not sure how old he is)..
I would suggest you would need to be involved and provide encouragement, but you can't really go wrong, learning outside of the curriculum is still learning and worthwhile!
In any case best of luck.

Again thanks good advice..
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Good luck to the little fella thats a big op and recovery, with schools being squeezed I cant see them budging much, however is it feasible for you son to use some of the education sites like Kahn Academy, maybe ask the school for a copy of the curriculum so you can map learning content to the curriculum for that time period to ensure he doesn't fall behind.

Might be worth tapping into the Home Educators network as they should've some good advice.
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I can't believe in this day and age a school can't provide disabled facilities. That's plain ridiculous. Hope you get something sorted
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haritori
Saturn
Regarding the medical issue - sorry to hear about the impending surgery and recovery process. Always a worrying time for a parent, however major or minor.
Regarding the education issue - could you tap into the local retired or semi-retired teacher population? Maybe a chat with some of the teachers that you are on good terms with at the school could lead to contact details of a kind-hearted old colleague(s) for a few hours a week. Alternatively, a social media request could lead to a retired teacher willing to help out, or a family member bringing it to their attention. Doesn't sound like he needs his hand held constantly, so maybe you could liase between a school providing you with the current curricular and an ex-professional providing a little guidance each week. Not ideal, but could be sufficient for a few months.
Thats a good suggestion, I will look into it..
we are going to get the school ot provide his current work plan and hopefully liaise like you say get his work marked etc..
delusion
It sounds like you value this schools contribution which is a good thing, as I've seen some terrible schools/teachers in my time that have no interest in what children learn.
I don't really have a solution but perhaps a work around.. Its unlikely he would fall behind too much in 4 months but it's understandable for you to be worried.
Perhaps work with the school to come up with a project or three that he can work on at home, and will both keep his mind engaged and keep his abilities sharp? Reading lots of books at a higher level, creative writing, using mathematics as part of a larger design project (creating a piece of software or computer game can be good options that do not require much moving around), preferably something that would offer an end product he can be proud of. Perhaps the 2 hours 1 to 1 tuition can also cover steering him in the right direction with the projects he is working on, even better if it can be used in future towards any exams grades on the horizon? (not sure how old he is)..
I would suggest you would need to be involved and provide encouragement, but you can't really go wrong, learning outside of the curriculum is still learning and worthwhile!
In any case best of luck.
Again thanks good advice..


Just read that he has recently started Secondary school. Make the same 'retired colleague' enquiries with teachers at his old Primary. There will always be a huge amount of goodwill at such places to help out if at all possible and see ex-pupils thrive. You only need one teacher to say 'Ah, I know who can help'.
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psychobitchfromhell
I can't believe in this day and age a school can't provide disabled facilities. That's plain ridiculous. Hope you get something sorted

Yeah the school is dilapidated its literally falling down in places, seriously neglected so a new one is in construction which should be ready Jan 2018, I suppose it bodes well for the next op, but right now its an issue, but to be fair a lot of comments on here have just reassured me a bit gave some options.

and it seems its not the school thats unwilling more the funding the school receives.
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some hospitals do teach school children but because mine was too young at the time and wasn't needed I can't provide much information but I advise you research and see what's available or try children centres for advice or like someone said earlier see how his school can help as most work kids do is online maybe use a labtop tablet so he doesn't fall behind...
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Saturn
haritori
Saturn
Regarding the medical issue - sorry to hear about the impending surgery and recovery process. Always a worrying time for a parent, however major or minor.
Regarding the education issue - could you tap into the local retired or semi-retired teacher population? Maybe a chat with some of the teachers that you are on good terms with at the school could lead to contact details of a kind-hearted old colleague(s) for a few hours a week. Alternatively, a social media request could lead to a retired teacher willing to help out, or a family member bringing it to their attention. Doesn't sound like he needs his hand held constantly, so maybe you could liase between a school providing you with the current curricular and an ex-professional providing a little guidance each week. Not ideal, but could be sufficient for a few months.
Thats a good suggestion, I will look into it..
we are going to get the school ot provide his current work plan and hopefully liaise like you say get his work marked etc..
delusion
It sounds like you value this schools contribution which is a good thing, as I've seen some terrible schools/teachers in my time that have no interest in what children learn.
I don't really have a solution but perhaps a work around.. Its unlikely he would fall behind too much in 4 months but it's understandable for you to be worried.
Perhaps work with the school to come up with a project or three that he can work on at home, and will both keep his mind engaged and keep his abilities sharp? Reading lots of books at a higher level, creative writing, using mathematics as part of a larger design project (creating a piece of software or computer game can be good options that do not require much moving around), preferably something that would offer an end product he can be proud of. Perhaps the 2 hours 1 to 1 tuition can also cover steering him in the right direction with the projects he is working on, even better if it can be used in future towards any exams grades on the horizon? (not sure how old he is)..
I would suggest you would need to be involved and provide encouragement, but you can't really go wrong, learning outside of the curriculum is still learning and worthwhile!
In any case best of luck.
Again thanks good advice..

Just read that he has recently started Secondary school. Make the same 'retired colleague' enquiries with teachers at his old Primary. There will always be a huge amount of goodwill at such places to help out if at all possible and see ex-pupils thrive. You only need one teacher to say 'Ah, I know who can help'.

Yeah good Idea, In fact his old teacher is on maternity leave but she was very fond of him, I might mention it to her see if she might want to swap some time off from being a new mum for a few hours a month lol.
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sum786
some hospitals do teach school children but because mine was too young at the time and wasn't needed I can't provide much information but I advise you research and see what's available or try children centres for advice or like someone said earlier see how his school can help as most work kids do is online maybe use a labtop tablet so he doesn't fall behind...

Yeah problem with this is we live a fair distance from teh hospital and he will be out of the hospital after 2 weeks, its after the first 4 weeks my concern lies.
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School sounds bang out of order mate.
Can't imagine what the little man is going to go through. Had my ACL & some cartilage reconstructed and that was bad enough! Out of work for 6 weeks.
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haritori
psychobitchfromhell
I can't believe in this day and age a school can't provide disabled facilities. That's plain ridiculous. Hope you get something sorted
Yeah the school is dilapidated its literally falling down in places, seriously neglected so a new one is in construction which should be ready Jan 2018, I suppose it bodes well for the next op, but right now its an issue, but to be fair a lot of comments on here have just reassured me a bit gave some options.
and it seems its not the school thats unwilling more the funding the school receives.
If he's as bright as you say you might find that two hours of one to one tuition a week may be enough. I'm sure they will provide him with plenty of homework and without the distraction of a class full of his peers he may well thrive. Don't forget also that internet is your friend and there are websites like BBC bitesize which are full of learning activities. All the best
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To be fair (thinking about it) haritori, you will probably find the home tutor will also issue several hours of coursework each week too..
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sorry 4 ure son he sounds like nice boy
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Wish your son a speedy recovery, All the best.
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Thanks to all the nice comments and well wishing, appreciated guys :)
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Good luck with the op and the recovery. I'm a retired teacher and I would be willing to help. I'm in Norwich if that's nearby, I'd be happy to help.
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Hope all goes well with your lads operation mate. All the best. ;)
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13norfolk
Good luck with the op and the recovery. I'm a retired teacher and I would be willing to help. I'm in Norwich if that's nearby, I'd be happy to help.

Appreciated thank you but.. ;)

http://i63.tinypic.com/2u455jb.jpg

OldEnglish
Hope all goes well with your lads operation mate. All the best. ;)

Thanks :)
4 Likes #35
All the best for your son Hari <3

13norfolk
Good luck with the op and the recovery. I'm a retired teacher and I would be willing to help. I'm in Norwich if that's nearby, I'd be happy to help.
I sense you may be a little to far away norfy ;)
Oh was busy and forgot to do a refresh X)

Edited By: thewongwing101 on Jan 18, 2017 20:52
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haritori
13norfolk
Good luck with the op and the recovery. I'm a retired teacher and I would be willing to help. I'm in Norwich if that's nearby, I'd be happy to help.
Appreciated thank you but.. ;)

http://i63.tinypic.com/2u455jb.jpg

OldEnglish
Hope all goes well with your lads operation mate. All the best. ;)
Thanks :)
We could get mutley and 'her' private jet....
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Hi. I am surprised by your story that the school is not diligent with regards to your son’s education. I work for an inter-city academy school as a support worker. The school that I work for is obsessed with not letting any student fall behind with their learning. This isn’t a school that is running like a dream, it is a school that Ofsted says needs improving.

I think that it is reasonable to ask that the teachers at the school that your son goes to provide work for him to do while he is off.

Just how disabled unfriendly is his present school? Can students get to most places in the building? At my school, we have a student that uses a wheelchair. He can leave a lesson five minutes early to get to where he needs to be next.

The suggestion to use the BBC Bitesize website is a great one. Does the school pay for access to any web-based learning resources? For example, all the students at my school are enrolled in a web-based Maths learning resource called, “MyMaths” - http://www.mymaths.co.uk.

My school also uses Microsoft Office 365. Students can contact their teacher by email, and also interact with other students in their class using Yammer.
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hope your son's operation goes well and so does his recovery.

does your son by any chance have a best mate in all his classes that maybe could Skype all his lessons or at least the main ones. you could possibly buy a sim card cheap phone for him to use. I don't know how feasible this is as I know my son's secondary has free wifi but he only has one or 2 other students that are in every single one of his classes. that way you could get his books marked every week and he wouldn't miss out on any work. Hopefully that's given you something to think about and all the best.
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Hari, your son probably won't be feeling up to much the first couple of weeks. See if the LA will let you bank the tuition?
At the end of the day in class you get a wee bit of help then left to work through things. 2 hours is poor out of an equivalent of 30. However I'm sure it'll work out better than you think.
You could always start a crowdfunding page, cheaper than fuel for Mutley's jet and put a sad face on the Failydail. I'm sure you'd take a more evocative picture for them too. **tongue in cheek**
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I took our LA to court and won. It's. or that daunting and is most definitely worth doing if it means your child gets what they need. Yes they have an obligation. Yes they try to shirk that obligation. You need to fight to get what I clearly laid out in law already.

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