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Laptop Broke - No Operating System. Help please?

RickyBobby Avatar
8y, 8m agoPosted 8 years, 8 months ago
So I've been having major problems with my laptop and last night I decided to use the system restore disk to fix it. Only problem is, for some reason it crashed half way through the restore so now it won't work. I can't get it to run a full restore, seems to help if i apply pressure under the laptop, the % goes further but I'm knackered after 10 mins and can't squeeze anymore.

Can I just install a new OS and if so which one? I can't afford to shell out loads.

Also it is a Sony Vaio, about 5 years old. Will installing a new OS wipe out the hard disk drive partition because I have stuff saved there?

Thanks!
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8y, 8m agoPosted 8 years, 8 months ago
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1 Like #1
The squeezing thing makes it sound like it might have someting to do with dodgy internals, maybe a hard drive?
you could try linux, especially a live disc that can run without installing anything and you can have abrowse around at the patitions and find any data you want to keep before you install it fully.
#2
I have had problems with the hard drive. It went on strike about a year ago but when I did the system restore it seemed to fix it. How would I go about the linux thing? I have an external hard drive but how do I get in? I tend to pretend I know what I'm doing with computers rather than actually knowing!
#3
If I did install linux, how would it affect drivers e.g. dvd/rw drives and other devices? I have to plug in a wireless card to get the internet too, would I still be able to install the software?
1 Like #4
Linux can handle most hardware out of the box these days, although some might prove tricky.
Live CD's dont need installing, they run off the CD drive and memory alone, they are slightly slower but it should be able to detect your old windows partitions and your external hard drive, and copy your important files to it. That would be what im most worried about. Then theres usually a shortcut from the desktop of the live CD that leads you through the process of installing it, it should let you choose whether to write over your old OS or create a new one next to it, in case you want it for later. Kubuntu is what i like to use, and you can either download it or request they send you CD's for free (but takes a while) here.
Hope that helps
#5
tazxxx
Kubuntu is what i like to use, and you can either download it or request they send you CD's for free (but takes a while) here.
Hope that helps


So if I download and write it to a cd it will do the same job as ordering a cd?

Thanks, you've been a huge help! :thumbsup:
Rep added
#6
Yep, but its nice to have a real CD, plus they usually send you some stickers :)
let me know if you have any problems, ill help if i can
#7
I may have to send off for the real cd. I tried to run it last night but still came up with the 'OS not found' message. I went into setup and made sure the computer booted from the optical drive first but it had no effect. The file I have saved to the cd is "kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso". I presume that is a correct one?

Thanks
#8
are you sure you burned the image onto the cd correctly?
#9
Thats what i'm not sure about. The image has the name i pasted above. Basically, i downloaded the file then directly burned it onto the cd using nero. Is there anythg else i should have done?
#10
which version of nero are you using? are you using the start smart thing?
#11
You need to burn it as an image rather than as a data file as you normally would...

You could always try using this free software to burn the CD if you cant get Nero/other to work..
#12
guerilla
which version of nero are you using? are you using the start smart thing?


I'm not sure, I borrowed a pc and didn't think of looking. I think I just went for the option of 'make a data cd'

jah128
You need to burn it as an image rather than as a data file as you normally would...

You could always try using this free software to burn the CD if you cant get Nero/other to work..


What nero setting would you reccomend? Or would it be easier just using the option that windows allows you to copy and paste to write a cd? Thanks for the link btw
#13
im pretty sure there is a burn an iso setting on nero, thats the one you want to use, else use the link jah128 gave you,

did nero look like this

http://wareseeker.com/images/categories/Audio-Multimedia/DVD-Burners/details_nero-burning-rom-6.6.1.15.jpg
#14
or like this

http://minerva.stkate.edu/ithelpguides.nsf/3daeede77e3a901a86256cd8006fb993/2bce16d93c8ae2258625718d00684180/Body/78.3AB6?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg
#15
It was the second one...but in red (does that matter?) Will look for that iso setting tonight, thanks!
#16
the colour doesn't matter, I have that version at home though and could post you some screen shots of me burning an iso if you like (don't finish work till half four but i could do it when i get in if you like?) i fancy trying some linux anyway. where did you get your image from?
#17
guerilla;1744199
i fancy trying some linux anyway. where did you get your image from?


Link for kubuntu is www.kubuntu.org, ubuntu is www.ubuntu.com (kubuntu is ubuntu with the KDE environment instead of Gnome - a slightly more advanced desktop basically)...

You'll find download links there - choose a UK mirror for the fastest download...

NB If you have a 64-bit CPU you might as well download the 64-bit version.
banned#18
full instructions with pics here of how to burn the ubuntu ISO

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto

I would have thought just clicking on the ISO file would have auto loaded nero and set options to burn anyway
#19
depends on order in which apps have been installed - opens in winrar for me as I must have installed that after...
#20
any links for a beginner to explain the difference between the kubuntu and ubuntu (or KDE and Gnome)
#21
guerilla
any links for a beginner to explain the difference between the kubuntu and ubuntu (or KDE and Gnome)


Basically they are the same, but they have different styles of menu and basic applications (like slightly different versions on the control panel and notepad on windows etc.). I find that KDE (which is used by kubuntu) is easier to use and looks nicer, (plus I don't like the way gnome (ubuntu) has the taskbar at the top by default :whistling: )

But if you install one, then it is very easy to also install the other one, so you can have the option of both at the login screen.
#22
Exactly as tazxxx said, I use Ubuntu here but its really much of a muchness...
#23
so basically not much in it, just a personal preference, been reading the ubuntu forums think ill have a go of installing this tonight
1 Like #24
You'll probably find it a bit of a steep learning curve at first if you've never used linux before but once you get used to it its got so many advantages over Windows. The software library and ease of installing software, and the fact you can guarantee it is virus/adware free is fantastic.
#25
very silly question follows.....

if i install ubuntu as a dual boot will it be able to get to my files on the other partition. currently i have a smallish windows installation on C and then a partition with the rest of my files (music videos etc) on another partition D, if i create another partition and install ubuntu on there will it be able to get to the files on D?
#26
jah128
You'll probably find it a bit of a steep learning curve at first if you've never used linux before but once you get used to it its got so many advantages over Windows. The software library and ease of installing software, and the fact you can guarantee it is virus/adware free is fantastic.



I've been on a year in industry this year and so i've been getting a bit bored, compared to my years at uni, i'm sick of getting in from work and watching tv all day so playing around with things sounds like a very nice change, touch wood i've never had a problem with virus on windows but its good to know that, they arent an issue in linux.

my only worry is i have become (and every increasingly so) addicted to spider solitaire. is there a linux version? any other progs you'd recommend? should i download the latest release or the long term support one?
1 Like #27
guerilla

if i install ubuntu as a dual boot will it be able to get to my files on the other partition.


Yeah no problem, it probably will detect your all your partitions and put a link to them all on the desktop or somewhere in the menus (i forget where exactly) , although it wont know the windows names for them (D drive, C drive etc. ) so you might have to hunt around until you find the right one.

If not then it is reasonably easy to mount them, as they will be 'inside' a wee file in the /dev folder.
#28
cheers tazxxx, i was pretty sure it would find them but nice to have confirmation
#29
guerilla


my only worry is i have become (and every increasingly so) addicted to spider solitaire. is there a linux version? any other progs you'd recommend? should i download the latest release or the long term support one?



The latest release is always the best bet, the long term support one is more for commercial use or as a server or something. Plus they still support the short term ones for a good number of years, and you will most likely want to upgrade when the new release comes along :)

The one application I miss the most when using windows in amarok, it is my far the best music playing application ever made, winamp comes close but just isn't quite there.
As for other applications and games, there should be a fair selection of small arcadey games to choose form when you install, not sure if there is a solitaire one but I'm guessing so.
I would recommend tuxracer though, every linux user needs to get to know tux :-D
#30
Yep, 7.10 all the way ;-) Fancy 3D effects if you install have a 3d graphics card (and get the drivers to work!)

Most software is already available in your 'package list' - basically when *ubuntu is installed you have a 'Synaptics Package Manager' in the administration window. From here you can search for uninstalled packages(programmes). I just searched for Spider in there and there is at very least 1 version available - you simply click on it, select 'Mark for Install', click 'Apply' and then it downloads the package of the internet and installs it - couldn't be easier!

Just installed 'Spider', here's a screenshot:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1259/screenshotzt3.th.png
and another version called 'xpat2':
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4710/screenshot1ld5.th.png
#31
ohh its a bit nice isn't it with the semi transparent bits lol, are you both 'full time' linux users?

(PS sorry RickyBobby for taking your thread on a massive tangent, i'll help you out when you back as much as i can)
#32
I recently got a brand new work-machine and just use Linux on that. My laptop has Ubuntu, Vista and XP on and I tend to use Linux more and more on it, although if I'm not doing work I'll often use Vista. I have a problem getting my wireless card to turn on in Ubuntu (it works but the switch to turn it on doesn't so I have to boot Windows, turn it on and restart) which is stopping me pretty much doing away with Windows...

I use Vista on my home desktop, but that is pretty much used for videos and games at the moment.
#33
thanks jah128, maybe i can abandon windows altogether......
#34
Well, I wouldn't rip up your COA just yet, but outside 3d games there aren't too many arguments why you can't live without Windows...
#35
I started using it a few years ago, then one day after a power cut my windows install died, so i began to used linux alone for a few years. At the moment I dont have it installed, but I am getting more and more annoyed at vistas crapiness every day, so am going to go back to linux when I find some time. I find its best to have both installed, as very occasionaly i wandered across a program that needed windows, (like phone unlocking cable software), but linux is definitely better for every day use, mainly beacuse its alot faster for just casual internet surfing etc.
#36
guerilla
(PS sorry RickyBobby for taking your thread on a massive tangent, i'll help you out when you back as much as i can)


Lol, no worries. Had to go out for a bit and am struggling to catch up with all the new info now! I have myself a stack of disks and am ready to wast a few trying to get this thing right! I'm going to have to try the nero method first as I'm not sure I can download programmes onto my mate's pc. Otherwise I'll put it on my work one tomorrow. Fingers crossed though.
#37
Whoops yeah, kind of forgot this thread was about a broken laptop - sorry :oops:. I'm quite enthusiastic about Linux at the moment as you can probably tell!
#38
Tbh thats a good thinig. Was a bit uncertain about using Linux (afraid of change blah, blah) but hearing people say how good it is makes me more determined to get this boot disk to work!
#39
rickybobby did you get it sorted?
#40
another question for a clever person. my processor is an amd athlon 64 X2 dual processor 3800+
does this mean i need the 64bit distro or does the 64 mean something else

it does mean its 64 bit,

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