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Laying carpet tiles over concrete?

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banned5y, 5m agoPosted 5 years, 5 months ago
Hi folks,

just looking for abit of advice, ive just had a concrete base done for my log cabin, and im wanting to put carpet tiles in there, should i use underlay over the concrete then put carpet tiles or just put them straight over?

And is there any specific type of underlay i should be using?

Thanks for your help in advance.
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banned5y, 5m agoPosted 5 years, 5 months ago
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#1
I believe you would want some kinda underlay to retain some warmth.

Not 100% sure what you would need exactly though. Without any underlay the floor will get quite cool.

You can probably get tiles that have some kinda insolation on the rear of them I would think.

Edited By: CyDoNiA on Jun 15, 2011 15:55
#2
wouldnt the log cabin have a wooden floor?

i laid carpet tiles onto mine (wooden floor) and it was easy. get plenty of decent spray adhesive aswell. i got stung with buy cheap buy twice.

think you can lay them direct onto concrete as long as its pretty smooth & has had some kind of protector on the concrete.
banned#3
lanc_red
wouldnt the log cabin have a wooden floor?

i laid carpet tiles onto mine (wooden floor) and it was easy. get plenty of decent spray adhesive aswell. i got stung with buy cheap buy twice.

think you can lay them direct onto concrete as long as its pretty smooth & has had some kind of protector on the concrete.


Thanks for your input, this cabin is a log cabin garage, so it has no floor, im trying to figure out what underlay is best and fit for purpose

the cabin also has a gap at the bottom which im thinking of using silicone sealent to make it water tight.
#4
How can you put underlay under a carpet tile?
#5
dvhendo
lanc_red
wouldnt the log cabin have a wooden floor?

i laid carpet tiles onto mine (wooden floor) and it was easy. get plenty of decent spray adhesive aswell. i got stung with buy cheap buy twice.

think you can lay them direct onto concrete as long as its pretty smooth & has had some kind of protector on the concrete.


Thanks for your input, this cabin is a log cabin garage, so it has no floor, im trying to figure out what underlay is best and fit for purpose

the cabin also has a gap at the bottom which im thinking of using silicone sealent to make it water tight.


ah ok. id take a trip across to Diynot.com - very helpful over there with building etc. i was over there when i had mine put up a year ago. had some problems with insulation etc.

id have a look at defo getting a concrete sealant to help prevent damp. the carpet tiles are quite thick based, but do get cold even on wood floor, so I would maybe suggest looking at insualted ones, thats if your bothered?

the gap around the base - silicone sealant would do the trick, but what ive noticed around the top of mine its that becasue its wood, its shrinks in the winter & expands in the summer go youd maybe need to have a good think about that. how big is the gap going to be. anything below 10mm & i reckon youd be ok with sealant.

are you insulating it? i just used loft insualtion in between the cavities, cheap & simple.
banned#6
lanc_red
dvhendo
lanc_red
wouldnt the log cabin have a wooden floor?

i laid carpet tiles onto mine (wooden floor) and it was easy. get plenty of decent spray adhesive aswell. i got stung with buy cheap buy twice.

think you can lay them direct onto concrete as long as its pretty smooth & has had some kind of protector on the concrete.


Thanks for your input, this cabin is a log cabin garage, so it has no floor, im trying to figure out what underlay is best and fit for purpose

the cabin also has a gap at the bottom which im thinking of using silicone sealent to make it water tight.


ah ok. id take a trip across to Diynot.com - very helpful over there with building etc. i was over there when i had mine put up a year ago. had some problems with insulation etc.

id have a look at defo getting a concrete sealant to help prevent damp. the carpet tiles are quite thick based, but do get cold even on wood floor, so I would maybe suggest looking at insualted ones, thats if your bothered?

the gap around the base - silicone sealant would do the trick, but what ive noticed around the top of mine its that becasue its wood, its shrinks in the winter & expands in the summer go youd maybe need to have a good think about that. how big is the gap going to be. anything below 10mm & i reckon youd be ok with sealant.

are you insulating it? i just used loft insualtion in between the cavities, cheap & simple.


Thanks for the input, the one i bought was this one;

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=11317521&fh_location=//catalog01/en_GB/categories%3C{9372012}/categories%3C{9372017}/categories%3C{9372061}/specificationsProductType=wooden_sheds/specificationsSpecificProductType=double_door_sheds

The gap is about 10-15mm. not very big, however the wood is warped in places so its slightly bigger, its almost fully built just having trouble with the doors right now as with the wood being warped they dont fit flush, looking at finding a joiner to fit them as i dont fancy shaving them off and messing them up.

Ive bought some concrete paint which protects for damp etc. However i know a good brushing wont clean the concrete enough, so i was going to hire a buffer for it first.

Then apply some sort of underlay, and over that the carpet tiles. im not too bothered about the cold as its going to be used as a gym anyway, however it needs to be water tight, as im going to have eletrics in there shortly.
#7
dvhendo

Thanks for the input, the one i bought was this one;

[url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diy.com%2Fdiy%2Fjsp%2Fbq%2Fnav.jsp%3Faction%3Ddetail%26fh_secondid%3D11317521%26fh_location%3D%2F%2Fcatalog01%2Fen_GB%2Fcategories%253C]http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=11317521&fh_location=//catalog01/en_GB/categories%3C[/url]{9372012}/categories%3C{9372017}/categories%3C{9372061}/specificationsProductType=wooden_sheds/specificationsSpecificProductType=double_door_sheds

The gap is about 10-15mm. not very big, however the wood is warped in places so its slightly bigger, its almost fully built just having trouble with the doors right now as with the wood being warped they dont fit flush, looking at finding a joiner to fit them as i dont fancy shaving them off and messing them up.

Ive bought some concrete paint which protects for damp etc. However i know a good brushing wont clean the concrete enough, so i was going to hire a buffer for it first.

Then apply some sort of underlay, and over that the carpet tiles. im not too bothered about the cold as its going to be used as a gym anyway, however it needs to be water tight, as im going to have eletrics in there shortly.


sounds like youve got it sorted. the buffer would be good. is the surface pretty smooth? id deffo assume it would need to be to lay the carpet tiles on top. or could you make a cheap wooden floor base from laminate then go on the top of that?
banned#8
lanc_red
dvhendo

Thanks for the input, the one i bought was this one;

[url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diy.com%2Fdiy%2Fjsp%2Fbq%2Fnav.jsp%3Faction%3Ddetail%26fh_secondid%3D11317521%26fh_location%3D%2F%2Fcatalog01%2Fen_GB%2Fcategories%253C]http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=11317521&fh_location=//catalog01/en_GB/categories%3C[/url]{9372012}/categories%3C{9372017}/categories%3C{9372061}/specificationsProductType=wooden_sheds/specificationsSpecificProductType=double_door_sheds

The gap is about 10-15mm. not very big, however the wood is warped in places so its slightly bigger, its almost fully built just having trouble with the doors right now as with the wood being warped they dont fit flush, looking at finding a joiner to fit them as i dont fancy shaving them off and messing them up.

Ive bought some concrete paint which protects for damp etc. However i know a good brushing wont clean the concrete enough, so i was going to hire a buffer for it first.

Then apply some sort of underlay, and over that the carpet tiles. im not too bothered about the cold as its going to be used as a gym anyway, however it needs to be water tight, as im going to have eletrics in there shortly.


sounds like youve got it sorted. the buffer would be good. is the surface pretty smooth? id deffo assume it would need to be to lay the carpet tiles on top. or could you make a cheap wooden floor base from laminate then go on the top of that?


Well hopefully i have, just need a local joiner. My father in law did the concrete base, and its floated pretty smooth Yes.

I dont want my dad to install the electrics until its watertight though! for obvious reasons.

I believe id need some sort of buffer with extraction to remove all the dust particles, however im not sure, as i know nothing about all this at all..
#9
http://www.electrical-testing.co.uk/p/articles/diy-electrical-works-is-it-worth-it-and-how-does-part-p-affect-me

Obviously I know nothing of your situation but if your dads not an electrician you may want to read that.

Underlay : Cork sealed with varnish. Forget the buffing, build up a thick layer. You can't use 'normal' underlay as it's 'mobile'. That doesn't matter with carpets but with tiles you'll end up with big gaps appearing everywhere.
banned#10
Shengis
http://www.electrical-testing.co.uk/p/articles/diy-electrical-works-is-it-worth-it-and-how-does-part-p-affect-me

Obviously I know nothing of your situation but if your dads not an electrician you may want to read that.

Underlay : Cork sealed with varnish. Forget the buffing, build up a thick layer. You can't use 'normal' underlay as it's 'mobile'. That doesn't matter with carpets but with tiles you'll end up with big gaps appearing everywhere.


Good point regarding the underlay, thanks. Ill look into that.

My dad is an electrician by trade, thats not a worry for me. At least 1 thing isnt. :-))

Thanks for your input.

this stuff ideal?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2mm-Cork-Underlay-4-Engineered-Wood-Laminate-Flooring-/390242981262?pt=UK_Flooring&hash=item5adc4b558e

Edited By: dvhendo on Jun 15, 2011 17:07
#11
This what you need, i know it`s for wood floor`s but this will do the trick
http://www.tradepriced.co.uk/laminate_underlay.html
banned#12
timtom13
This what you need, i know it`s for wood floor`s but this will do the trick
http://www.tradepriced.co.uk/laminate_underlay.html


Which one, theres loads on there?
#13
First one, on that page OR

Duralay Timbermate Laminate & Hardwood Underlay
it`s got a sliver side try that one

Use On Concrete and Wood Floor Use: No Just Wooden Subfloors
2mm up to about 3.5mm no more then that




Edited By: timtom13 on Jun 15, 2011 17:33: mm
banned#14
timtom13
First one, on that page OR

Duralay Timbermate Laminate & Hardwood Underlay
it`s got a sliver side try that one

Use On Concrete and Wood Floor Use: No Just Wooden Subfloors
2mm up to about 3.5mm no more then that





thanks alot

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