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license for towing a caravan ????

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8y, 8m agoPosted 8 years, 8 months ago
I was just wondering if anybody knows anything about having a license to tow a caravan.

Me and my partner are looking to buy a caravan but my driving instructor told me that my partner (who will be towing it) will need a license to tow , I didn't know anything about this, his driving license was issued after 1997 and I think this has something to do about it.

I was just wondering whether anybody knows anything about it (i've looked on the DVLA site and can't make end or tail of it !) and also if anybody knows how much it costs (more importantly!). Thanks in advance !
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8y, 8m agoPosted 8 years, 8 months ago
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#1
I passed my test on 2004 and I must get another license to tow but stupidly i can drive a tractor lol
It doesnt make sense but I found out the info on the dvla website
1 Like #2
the little piccy things on the back of the licence are all codes as to what you can and cannot drive or tow,sorry cant be of much help
#3
I can see the sense in it in a way to get a bit of knowledge for towing a caravan cos I imagine it to be tricky but I really had no idea n its just another expense on top of saving for a caravan !

Thanks by the way Mardyass :)
#4
Well, I didn't know that either!! Something I've learnt today then!
#5

Upgrading entitlement for trailers

In general, an additional driving test is required for each category or subcategory of entitlement. But there are certain exceptions to this where drivers have already passed one test which involves trailer entitlement for a larger or equivalent sized vehicle.

This means that passing a test for subcategory C1+E or D1+E upgrades category B entitlement to B+E. A test pass for subcategory C1+E upgrades subcategory D1, if held, to D1+E. But a test pass for subcategory D1+E does not upgrade subcategory C1 to C1+E because the trailer size required for a subcategory D1+E test is smaller than that required for a subcategory C1+E test.

Passing a test for category C+E upgrades category B entitlement to B+E and also confers entitlement to subcategory C1 and C1+E and, if category D or subcategory D1 is held, these are upgraded to category D+E or subcategory D1+E. A test passed for category D+E upgrades category B and subcategory D1 to category B+E and subcategory D1+E respectively. But it does not upgrade category C or subcategory C1 entitlements because the trailer size required for a category D+E test is smaller than that required for a category C+E or subcategory C1+E test.


Now how could anybody find that confusing :lol:

How big is the proposed caravan? You may be able to tow it on just cat B if it's a small one.
#6
I think its a good idea that you need a seperate licence for caravans, the number of them you see snaking because the driver is going too fast or crashed because its started snaking and the driver hits the brake rather than gradually reducing speed is astronimcal on bank holiday periods on the lincoln to skeggy route, most of its common sense the hardest part is the reversing!!! |Applying opposite lock to where you normally would takes some getting used to! It will no doubt affect me at some point in the next few years but I dont mind being made to get some experience.
#7
[quote=Shengis;1737731]Now how could anybody find that confusing :lol:

I found it more tedious that anything and just tend to switch off ! I have done more research and have found that the maximum towing weight is 3500kg (3.5 tonnes), that's a combination of the vehicle your driving and what your towing.

We are looking to buy a 4/5 berth caravan and my partners buying a Laguna estate (or something similar) so if the combines weight is less than the amount above then he shouldn't have to take the test :thumbsup: Its about £700- 800 to take the test for somebody who has no experience in towing :roll:
#8
harlzter;1737920
I think its a good idea that you need a seperate licence for caravans, the number of them you see snaking because the driver is going too fast or crashed because its started snaking and the driver hits the brake rather than gradually reducing speed is astronimcal on bank holiday periods on the lincoln to skeggy route, most of its common sense the hardest part is the reversing!!! |Applying opposite lock to where you normally would takes some getting used to! It will no doubt affect me at some point in the next few years but I dont mind being made to get some experience.


Yeah i do agree in a way but why do they have to make it sooo expensive there's bound to be a lot of peolpe who won't take it hoping to get away with it, if my partner doesn't have to take it I wouldn't dream of going long distances until he is used to tow it even if it just means driving it round quiet streets its still experience that he will need . Shame they don't do training courses that don't cost much and maybe more people would take them :)
banned#9
I've been driving since 2002 so am I okay? Been towing a trailor to the dump and back, got B, B1, f,k,p on my licence you got a link to save me searching.

"Car Licences obtained after 1 January 1997
Drivers who passed their test after the 1st January 1997 are limited to driving vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes maximum authorised mass (MAM) towing a trailer up to 750kgs, or a vehicle and trailer combination up to 3.5 tonnes MAM providing the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen mass of the towing vehicle. Drivers need to pass an additional driving test in category B + E if they wish to tow a trailer combination exceeding this. "

750kgs, do the police carry scales with them? btw my 1.4l 96 Golf weighs 980kgs so basically you can't toe another car if it's broken down.
#10
Didn't realise that lumoruk. I thought that drivers after X date couldn't tow a trailer full stop without addional tests.
#11
highguyuk
Didn't realise that lumoruk. I thought that drivers after X date couldn't tow a trailer full stop without addional tests.

Funny you should say that but I passed my test in Feb 97 and for years I thought I couldn't even drive a Transit sized vehicle. All down to the less than clear way it was all worded on the paper part of the licence:roll:

Edit: Good old Wiki makes it a bit clearer : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Driving_Licence_codes
banned#12
If you do want to take the test you need to get a caravan/trailor that weighs over 1000kgs, it's £107 for the test and you can take training with these people
http://www.fleetdriverskills.com/fleet-driver-training/fleettrainingvancardrivers.html £160.00 if you have previous trailor experience

What state your car must be in when you turn up for the test.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/LearnerAndNewDrivers/PracticalTest/DG_4022543
banned#13
Shengis
Funny you should say that but I passed my test in Feb 97 and for years I thought I couldn't even drive a Transit sized vehicle. All down to the less than clear way it was all worded on the paper part of the licence:roll:

Edit: Good old Wiki makes it a bit clearer : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Driving_Licence_codes


but doesn't their example add up to 2.5 tonnes (0.5 tonnes over MAM of car) snapping the suspension in half :whistling:
banned#14
Didn't realise I could ride a moped, so all I need to do is that compulsary training and I can ride a moped without an L plate?

edit: "If you obtained your car licence before 1 February 2001 you do not need to complete a CBT to ride a moped." damn got to find out when I passed now.

Shengis
Funny you should say that but I passed my test in Feb 97 and for years I thought I couldn't even drive a Transit sized vehicle. All down to the less than clear way it was all worded on the paper part of the licence:roll:


I drove the Jumbo Ford Transit at work MAM of 2307kg oversized wheel base and height, showed them my licence as I was a bit weary of driving such a massive vehicle, they said no thats fine.
#15
If your towing vehicle and the vehicle your towing has a kerb weight of less than 3500kg then you do not need to take the test http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/Practical+advice/General+advice/B+and+E+tests/B+and+E+tests.htm

I worked it out to be more expensive than that lumoruk as the site i looked on said you had to do several days (4 or 5), apologies if I am wrong

http://www.trailertraining.org.uk/index.htm
#16
lumoruk
but doesn't their example add up to 2.5 tonnes (0.5 tonnes over MAM of car) snapping the suspension in half :whistling:


Not quite right. MAM is calculated on downward force but a trailer would exert longitudinal force with minimal downforce at the extreme rear (so a light car would pull a slight wheelie), so therefore not contribute too much to the MAM of the towing vehicle. The real question is, would a 1.25T trailer rip the boot floor out of the towing vehicle as it seems that's where a lot of people bolt their towbars to:w00t:

To be honest though, the maths probably don't work in Wiki's example but as i'm a DRIVER and so therefore MUST and DO hate caravanner's I can't be arsed to check :lol:
banned#17
Shengis
Not quite right. MAM is calculated on downward force but a trailer would exert longitudinal force with minimal downforce at the extreme rear (so a light car would pull a slight wheelie), so therefore not contribute too much to the MAM of the towing vehicle. The real question is, would a 1.25T trailer rip the boot floor out of the towing vehicle as it seems that's where a lot of people bolt their towbars to:w00t:

To be honest though, the maths probably don't work in Wiki's example but as i'm a DRIVER and so therefore MUST and DO hate caravanner's I can't be arsed to check :lol:


You saying you hate my dad I think thats a very unkind thing to say :x i suggest we take this offline!
#18
lumoruk
You saying you hate my dad I think thats a very unkind thing to say :x i suggest we take this offline!


Well as I own a 32' caravan I think I have every right to hate my fellow owners:p Last time it was moved there was a queue of about a mile behind it, and they weren't exactly pleased :lol:

Here's mine and it DEFINITELY has a MAM of more than 3.5T PMSL...

http://www.shengis.net/feocpics/caravan1.jpg
#19
I was lucky I already had a licence when this came in, but think it was a great idea to make people take towing tests, when I sold tourers, I saw so many bad reversing manoeuvres it would make your hair curl.
When choosing car and caravan combination, don't forget the caravan laden should weigh no more than 85% of the kerb weight of the car - do not take those towing weight figures from the car manufacturers.
Take the time to go and speak to your local caravan dealer, (preferably not on a Saturday) and get some advice.
Caravanning beats camping anyday, heaters, showers, fitted toilets, double glazing, sprung mattresses, half the modern caravans are better than my first flat.
Best of luck.
#20
lumoruk, careful shengis is armed...and dangerous...
banned#21
Was towing a trailor today think I put too much weight at the back, was about 13 bags of rubble, a TV and some bottles was very heavy anyway got past 40mph and the bloody thing started skipping scared the bejesus out of me, any tips? Ended up doing 35-40mph all the way to the dump, held up a few people was quite embarrassing.
#22
lumoruk
Was towing a trailor today think I put too much weight at the back, was about 13 bags of rubble, a TV and some bottles was very heavy anyway got past 40mph and the bloody thing started skipping scared the bejesus out of me, any tips? Ended up doing 35-40mph all the way to the dump, held up a few people was quite embarrassing.


Check the nose weight on the tow bar, and is your towbar height matching to your trailor?
To check the nose weight, bathroom scales and a piece of wood, worth checking the trailor empty...I can't remember but it used to be recommended to have a nose weight of 50-75kg (I think) worth googling, or try the caravan club pages

http://www.practicalcaravan.com/features/noseweight.html
banned#23
Agent_Silver
Check the nose weight on the tow bar, and is your towbar height matching to your trailor?
To check the nose weight, bathroom scales and a piece of wood, worth checking the trailor empty...I can't remember but it used to be recommended to have a nose weight of 50-75kg (I think) worth googling, or try the caravan club pages

http://www.practicalcaravan.com/features/noseweight.html


Makes sense, so I need a me sat at the front of trailor :thumbsup:
#24
lumoruk
Makes sense, so I need a me sat at the front of trailor :thumbsup:


Or a me, that'll get the nose weight up.

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