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Little Girl Abducted

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9y, 7m agoPosted 9 years, 7 months ago
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/6626251.stm


OMG!! How horrific. I cannot even start to imagine the grief and guilt felt by the parents. Such things just should not happen. It is scary!! I would NEVER trust my three year old in a hotel room on her own. Granted she rarely gets up ... but sometimes she does ... I would never forgive myself. I freak leaving my passport in my room alone incase some crazy person steals it.
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[mod]#1
I know it's awful. You'd think the parents being Doctors as well that they'd have more than enough intelligence between them to not leave the 3 kids in the room on their own.

I'd never leave my little 'un alone just so i could get some food (or anything else for that matter).
#2
Agreed, The parents shouldn't have left the kid(s) on their own, Not matter how often they were checking them.

Hope the girl is found safe and well.
#3
I notice how they say the restaurant they were in was "a few hundred yards away". If we take that as 300 yards, that's a quarter of a kilometre away. To leave kids of 3 and 2 alone ANYWHERE is shocking, but do leave them in an unsecured holiday apartment while you're out having dinner...

To compound the anguish of their daughter being missing, they'll have to deal with the guilt of having been neglectful.
#4
i agree i have a 2 and a half yr old and i would never dream of leaving him. last nite when we was talking about this in another thread i was pretty much convinced that she probably woke up and wondered where mummy and daddy was and wondered off. (i can picture my son and any other toddler i know doing this) but ive been watching the clips from family memebers etc and aparently the shutter windows were "shimmed" open. Now my son is really strong but i dont think he could do that, so i think at the moment that someone must have broke in, but....why leave the twin siblings. please please find her/bring her back. i bet her parents feel sick to there souls.
#5
shocking display of parenting.. I mean I hope it all gets resolved, but this is exactly why you dont leave kids alone.
[helper]#6
I have a gold haired beautiful little 3 year old girl and this is every parents worst nightmare. I have an enormous amount of sympathy for the parents. I would not have left a 3 year old alone but any parent will tell you how precious it is to have even a few minutes to your self. I suspect they let their guard down and thought they (the children) were safe on holiday.....

On the one hand you may say it is a clear case of neglect but no one in their right minds would ever wish any action to be taken against the parents. Even if the child is returned safely the parents will have been punished more than enough.

I can't really express in words how much I hope this child is found safe and well.
#7
i know how you feel GARI189. my son is very blonde almost white when he has been in the sun and they get alot of attention whilst on holiday dont they? i remember having hair down to my bum and was always very blonde when i was younger strangers on holiday would stroke my hair and try to touch my skin etc.

I wouldnt leave my child anyway but they probably thought that by getting the bottom floor apartment they were protecting there children as in they couldnt fall over and die etc (i know we did this last year on holiday) but it has obviously made it easier for the person to get to them.

why do you think the person (this is if she was abducted rather than got out) left her twin siblings?
#8
my children are 7 and 8 and i wouldn't dream of leaving them indoors alone let alone in surroundings they are not used to.
#9
my god, were going on holiday to portugal tonight, its like 20 miles away from there. wonder if the airport security will be tight as heck
#10
i think it probably will be
#11
I hope the little girl is found safely.

However, the parents have only themselves to blame for this abduction. The stupidity of some people nowadays staggers me and these two 'professionals' ought to know better than to leave children on their own in a totally alien environment.

Simple question - why didnt they take the children with them?
#12
Terrible situation for anyone to be in, I really hope she is found safe and sound very soon.

Can't believe the parents left them on their own particularly when there are child care options available at these resorts. The guilt they must be feeling now.
#13
i hope she does turn up safe. I thought there was laws in place about leaving children under a certain age i.e leaving them in the car etc .my children's safety is always top on my list i even take them with me to post box which is just around the corner incase someone knocks at door etc .
#14
I cannot express how I feel for the parents and my heart goes out to them.

BUT why, why, why did they leave the children alone! My son grew up in London and I did not take my eyes off him when we travelled anywhere, here, never mind abroad. Over the few years surrounding his birth, there was a series of babies abducted from prams left outside shops. I had an old fashioned large pram, which often wouldn't go inside a shop, but even if he was sleep I took him out of the pram.

The couple are both doctors and went to this particular hotel with a group of other doctors and young children, paying around £1,600 for a week.

"In the evenings, Mark Warner (presumably the owner of the hotel) offers a drop-in creche service enabling customers to leave young children with staff while the parents enjoy a relaxing dinner.

Customers can also pay for individual baby-sitters but the McCanns, chose not to use either service, instead taking it in turns regularly to check their three young children themselves from the restaurant on the other side of a swimming pool from their apartment." (Quote from the Daily Mail.)

Well, it seems obvious that the abductors just had to wait until the parents had made a visit.

These doctors are supposedly the cream of our society, one of them a GP. We are advised to ask them for advice about raising our children!

Madeleine must be particularly precious to them because she was conceived through IVF. They made a mistake, they are suffering but the child...the child....... I can't write any more!!!!!!!!!
#15
dave smith
shocking display of parenting.. I mean I hope it all gets resolved, but this is exactly why you dont leave kids alone.


totally agree i know they must be eaten up with guilt but so they should this is not a terrible accident .It could have been prevented.This is neglect .
#16
palspal
"In the evenings, Mark Warner (presumably the owner of the hotel) offers a drop-in creche service enabling customers to leave young children with staff while the parents enjoy a relaxing dinner.

Customers can also pay for individual baby-sitters but the McCanns, chose not to use either service, instead taking it in turns regularly to check their three young children themselves from the restaurant on the other side of a swimming pool from their apartment." (Quote from the Daily Mail.)


Thats what I was going to point out - someone said about time alone being precious, but there were ways of getting that and leaving the children safely.

Also, they said that they checked on them every 30mins, then they mentioned checking at 9pm and they found their daughter gone around 10pm - doesnt sound like 30mins to me
#17
Time away from the children as a couple is precious, but only when you have made every effort to know that your children are safe. That time wouldn't have been precious to us, it would have been a nightmare, if we knew our son might have woken up, on his own, in a strange bedroom.

I know it's easy to judge and we all make mistakes but how could the parents relax and enjoy themselves anyway, while clock watching? Perhaps 30mins did become and hour. Doesn't time fly when you're having fun?:-(
#18
Of the 3 children, the ELDEST was 3.

Cold as it sounds, I really hope they enjoyed their 'time out' from their children. They will have loads of time now to reflect how enjoyable it was to have a meal without their kids.

The attitude of some, so called parents astonishes me.

I really hope no harm comes of the little girl (for her own sake) but she should consider having more caring parents when she is found.

Makes my stomach turn that anyone can leave any child/ren like that and that anyone is sick enough to take a child either.....words fail me.
#19
That article from the BBC is so wierd. They talk as if it was okay to leave the children there, and as if it wasnt the parents fault at all. Disgraceful.
#20
initial reports said a couple of hundred yards and now its 40 yards! what ever it was they shouldnt have been left - there was no excuse especially when there was a creche and a baby sitting service. They could have taken them with them - children are always welcomed in foreign countries in restaurants etc. couldnt they have fallen asleep on a couple of chairs? or in a buggy?
I hope (like we all do) that she is found safe and well - and then questions can be asked of the parents!!! That little blond boy in majorca???? about 15 years ago??? was never found was he???
#21
I'm a parent of a lovely 3 yr old Son...and I would NEVER dream of leaving him alone anywhere...especially abroad, in a strange hotel room.

PARENTS???? The word shouldnt be used to describe these two 'people' who felt more like having 'time away' than looking after their kid(s). Sorry folks but some things change when you become a parent...you're priorities change.

Yes you do need time without the little 'uns sometime, but do it safely and leave the kids with people you know....

Social Services anyone???
#22
Surely a family holiday is just that....for the family. If you have to go for a meal by yourselves as a couple - do it back at home when you can rely on family or a trusted baby sitter. It couldn't have been a very relaxing meal anyway, if someone had to leave the table every 30 minutes or so to 'check' on the kids.
Having said that i do have a grain of sympathy for the parents - could you really wish the pain they must be in now, on anyone? I would though, question any future judgement made by them in the medical field...
#23
You never leave your children unattended ever, I fail to see how any one could go out and leave a child alone?
#24
jelli89
Surely a family holiday is just that....for the family. If you have to go for a meal by yourselves as a couple - do it back at home when you can rely on family or a trusted baby sitter. It couldn't have been a very relaxing meal anyway, if someone had to leave the table every 30 minutes or so to 'check' on the kids.
Having said that i do have a grain of sympathy for the parents - could you really wish the pain they must be in now, on anyone? I would though, question any future judgement made by them in the medical field...



hmmm...could i wish that pain...

will let you know once i know if their child is ok.....:x
#25
crazygunuk
hmmm...could i wish that pain...

will let you know once i know if their child is ok.....:x

2nd that?

Does beg the question why they didn't ask one of these "relatives who have flown out to comfort the couple," to accompany the family on the holiday, and act as an au pair if they were so desperate to get away from their own kids for one evening !

Don't get me wrong - there is NO excuse for leaving a child unattended ever - day or night
#26
The nan was interviewed this morning and said the family "are doing ok" I couldnt believe that!

I think there is something suspicious going on, the stories are contradicting each other (with the distance of the restaurant, how often they checked on the kids and whether the door was found open or still locked)
#27
Hang on ....maybe my au pair suggestion should be scrapped...i have just seen the news report with the childs aunt saying that "it is abhorrent to suggest bad parenting" obviously a deficient gene in parenting
#28
kelly_o_fanatic
The nan was interviewed this morning and said the family "are doing ok" I couldnt believe that!

I think there is something suspicious going on, the stories are contradicting each other (with the distance of the restaurant, how often they checked on the kids and whether the door was found open or still locked)


I have my suspicions too, somethings not quite right.
#29
Certainly a "inside" job IMO, the father is wayyyyyyyyy to calm when doing interviews etc. My bloke would be killing people to find answers, not doing bloody press interviews!
#30
Lulu'sMammy
Certainly a "inside" job IMO, the father is wayyyyyyyyy to calm when doing interviews etc. My bloke would be killing people to find answers, not doing bloody press interviews!


Not sure what they would have to gain from this.
I reckon they have to keep things as normal as possible for the other kids. Try putting yourself in their position. This is totally unimaginable for anyone but lets face it, none of us know the full facts and it is totally out of order to say things like the above. This family need support not abuse.
#31
mrtootough
Not sure what they would have to gain from this.
I reckon they have to keep things as normal as possible for the other kids. Try putting yourself in their position. This is totally unimaginable for anyone but lets face it, none of us know the full facts and it is totally out of order to say things like the above. This family need support not abuse.

Was no abuse written anywhere in that post? Re-read it says, in my opinion, which im entitled to, and can comment on as and when i like. And what would anybody have to gain from harming a child?, but still does'nt stop it from being done does it? Plus if you want a total honest answer, if the parents had not of been thinking with their bellies, and thought of the childs care...they wouldnt be this mess would there! There is hundreds of childless couples out there, who would do anything for the luxury of a child, then they are the ones who should know better! So please don't accuse me of being abusive until you learn to read properly....i thank you please!!
#32
Lulu'sMammy
Was no abuse written anywhere in that post? Re-read it says, in my opinion, which im entitled to, and can comment on as and when i like. And what would anybody have to gain from harming a child?, but still does'nt stop it from being done does it? Plus if you want a total honest answer, if the parents had not of been thinking with their bellies, and thought of the childs care...they wouldnt be this mess would there! There is hundreds of childless couples out there, who would do anything for the luxury of a child, then they are the ones who should know better! So please don't accuse me of being abusive until you learn to read properly....i thank you please!!


You are blaming them without knowing all the facts. All I'm stating is that they need support. As for learning to read properly, people in glass houses shouldn't throw bricks. I never accused you of being abusive, I clearly made a statement that they need support, not abuse. If you feel an ounce of guilt because of this, maybe there is just cause.
#33
Crazy1
Of the 3 children, the ELDEST was 3.


So if my calculations are right, Thats a child every year over 3 years (I'm sure i can't get that wrong! :-D ), You'd have thought they'd have stopped having kids after the 1st for a short while to see how they'd cope and get used to everything, Not just keep popping out more kids.
#34
2 of them are twins (as twins usually are) abit like that wacky film with Arnie and Danny Devito.

Just my take I don't agree with what the parents done, butI really feel for the little girl and I pray that she turns up unharmed. No one deserves to go through this. I would never leave my 7 year old alone under any circumstance.
#35
the 2 younger siblings are twins i think
#36
mrtootough
You are blaming them without knowing all the facts.


The facts as I know them are - 3 children all under the age of 4 were left alone in a hotel bedroom, while their parents went out for a meal. When one of the parents went to check on them, the room looked as if it had been broken into, the door was open and the eldest child was missing. A 3 year old girl.

mrtootough
All I'm stating is that they need support.


Support you say, locking up I say. No responsible parent leaves in a room, out of ears-shot where babies are, in your home, in your car or even on holiday.

I think Spanish social services should have taken the other two children into care where the parents are allowed a little time, on their own to reflect on the past few hours.

That's not abuse... that's help....
#37
When you become a parent your children come first and luxuries like a romantic meal together become few and far between. It is a small price to pay ... for toothy morning grins ... for sticky chocolate kisses. I keep kicking myself that I am over protective of my babies ... then something like this happens and I realise there is no such thing as being over protective when it comes to such precious things. I would even panic that one of my little ones would wake up and scream and I would not hear them.

I think the idea that the child wandered off on her own is unlikely. In a busy holiday resort a child would not wander for long without being found and retrieved.
#38
Police have a susspect in mind and think the little girl is alive and well and somewhere within a 3 mile radius of the hotel complex.
#39
Gaia
I keep kicking myself that I am over protective of my babies ... then something like this happens and I realise there is no such thing as being over protective when it comes to such precious things.

I know what you mean - my daughter was the same age as the victims of the Dunblane tragedy when it took place, and she was the same age as Sarah Payne when she was taken. My son was the same age as Jamie Bulger when his murderers were due for release and the tragedy of that event came flooding back. you are SO right "there is no such thing as being over protective when it comes to such precious things
#40
jelli89
you are SO right "there is no such thing as being over protective when it comes to such precious things



I couldn't agree more. My son who is almost seven keeps telling me he would be ok if I went to the shop he would look after his 3 year old brother. No way!! Nothing is that important!

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