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7y, 4m agoPosted 7 years, 4 months ago
I am looking to fit a dishwasher beside the washing machine, its the only room for it and it has a mains water feed and i have an adapter to fit both appliences.
My problem is the waste pipes. i need to fit the dishwasher waste pipe but dont know how as the washing machine one is kinda in the way and i dont want to have to swap them round every time.

Ideas please?

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7y, 4m agoPosted 7 years, 4 months ago
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#1
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/shanecr/DSC04776.jpg
banned#2
just get a dual input feed extension
#3
csiman
just get a dual input feed extension


googling that doesnt bring up much :?
1 Like #4
Its a single to twin adapter. B & Q
#5
can you extend the pipe a foot from where it goes through ther wall and then put another waste in (side by side) but do not empty both at the same time!
banned#6
commonly called a 'Y' connector / valve
#7
Jefflan22
Its a single to twin adapter. B & Q


cant see it online :?

mikebike
can you extend the pipe a foot from where it goes through ther wall and then put another waste in (side by side) but do not empty both at the same time!


i wouldnt know how to start that to be honest, just want a simple adpater or piece to allow both to drain into same pipe
1 Like #8
Just put a tee piee in the waste pipe and then connect your dishwasher waste to that

the y connector is when it is connected to a trap under the sink, it will not fit on the pipework you have pictured

http://www.tdspares.co.uk/prodimages/thumbs/tn_msc1007.jpg

you need to put a tee in like this pictured here:

http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/waste%20pipe%20with%20spigot%20trap.jpg

your washing machine goes back into the top and your dishwasher waste connects to the bit sticking out
banned 1 Like #9
dishwasher / w.machine near the sink? Might even have a connector on that ready to go:-

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/12794/Plumbing/Wastes-and-Traps/Sink-Washing-Machine-Trap-40mm
#10
souljacker
Just put a tee piee in the waste pipe and then connect your dishwasher waste to that

the y connector is when it is connected to a trap under the sink, it will not fit on the pipework you have pictured

http://www.tdspares.co.uk/prodimages/thumbs/tn_msc1007.jpg

you need to put a tee in like this pictured here:

http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/waste%20pipe%20with%20spigot%20trap.jpg

your washing machine goes back into the top and your dishwasher waste connects to the bit sticking out


the first pic, the y piece, i have that to connect both to the mains water feed. so thats ok, that second pic, it looks ok i guess, i assume its ok for it to be that low?

csiman
dishwasher / w.machine near the sink? Might even have a connector on that ready to go:-

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/12794/Plumbing/Wastes-and-Traps/Sink-Washing-Machine-Trap-40mm


the machines are in a back cupboard at my back door, too far from any sink. the cupboard they are in do have the mains water feed and waste pipe, but would that piece work anyway? its 40mm so i could fit it anyway? or would it cause a problem somehow?
#11
shanecr
the first pic, the y piece, i have that to connect both to the mains water feed. so thats ok, that second pic, it looks ok i guess, i assume its ok for it to be that low?


the first pic is the y connector that connects the waste pipe to a trap under the sink, so you don't need that

The second pic is just the same as the pipe you havepictured, but it's on it's side and without the T:) , you only really need to buy the T piece part of it whih come with the loose bits pictured (nut and hose connector)

so it will look like this with a piece of existing pipe coming out of the new T and your washing machine waste going back into the top

as long as the waste pipe is connected above the "trap" it doesn't matter how low it goes but you could put the T anywhere on your existing waste pipe

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3480/3734300949_d6a54c91dc.jpg?v=0
#12
you need to cut the pipe about a foot from the top insert a T shaped connector put the bit of pipe back in the top . a small peice of pipe in the tpeice a 90 degree bend and a bit of pipe back up
#13
t piece http://i25.tinypic.com/211qkxv.jpg
#14
Isn't that what i've just said??
#15
90 degree http://i26.tinypic.com/30tnnko.gif
#16
souljacker
Isn't that what i've just said??


yeah soz didnt read it
#17
A word of warning ! what you have to worry about is that if both machines disperse together I don't think the waste pipe will cope . In fact I would put money on it, I think you should go back to the drawing board .
#18
renown
A word of warning ! what you have to worry about is that if both machines disperse together I don't think the waste pipe will cope . In fact I would put money on it, I think you should go back to the drawing board .


of course it would cope, it's at least inch and a half pipe
#19
seen your picture, what goes in front of the waste connection. If you have space then take the waste off and put a tee on facng outwards then a bit of pipe, then put the current upstand onto the new pipe. Now out of the centre of the tee put a bit of pipe and a new upstand
1 Like #20
souljacker
of course it would cope, it's at least inch and a half pipe


Always air on the side of caution I renovate properties for a living and do everything correctly Believe me you should give things there best chance I think your wrong and if I was the OP i would not take a chance or he'll be getting the mop out Two machines dispersing together sends the water at a hell of a rate. OP its better to be safe than sorry there are lots of things to add into the equation I don't know how many bends you all ready have, how long is the run to the drain don't listen to just any one phone a plumber in your local area and ask the question Each machine should have its on waste outlet don't you think that's obvious.
This is my final word on the matter it don't bother me what he doe's :p
1 Like #21
renown I am a qualified plumber/heating engineer of 15 years. There is no problem adapting what he has for two appliances. Space is the biggest concern for him as I don't know what he has in front of the picture. You can have a sink with a dishwasher and washng machine connected to the trap all going into a 1 1/2 pipe with no issues of backing up.
#22
pinkleponkle
renown I am a qualified plumber/heating engineer of 15 years. There is no problem adapting what he has for two appliances. Space is the biggest concern for him as I don't know what he has in front of the picture. You can have a sink with a dishwasher and washng machine connected to the trap all going into a 1 1/2 pipe with no issues of backing up.


I still stand by what i say any way 15 years your just a novice lol

Did I not see the old copper coloured pipe going through the wall in the original picture? that would suggest to me the original pipework has been there for sum time ! therfore its internal diameter could now only be 1" there are so many things to take into concideration all i'm saying is better to be cautious you cannot dissagree with that If your a tradsmen?
#23
The op wants to do this himself and asked for an easy option, by the fact he asked tells you he's not that confident in plumbing but also he may be on a budget so as to not be able to pay for someone to come over. As long as he doent want to put something in front on the upstands then it's perfectly workable to adapt for two appliances. Could it be done better, of course, but would it make them work better, no.
#24
souljacker
the first pic is the y connector that connects the waste pipe to a trap under the sink, so you don't need that

The second pic is just the same as the pipe you havepictured, but it's on it's side and without the T:) , you only really need to buy the T piece part of it whih come with the loose bits pictured (nut and hose connector)

so it will look like this with a piece of existing pipe coming out of the new T and your washing machine waste going back into the top

as long as the waste pipe is connected above the "trap" it doesn't matter how low it goes but you could put the T anywhere on your existing waste pipe



something like this will do between the upright and the U bend then?
http://www.mc-alpine.de/shop/images/product_images/thumbnail_images/735_0.jpg

renown
Always air on the side of caution I renovate properties for a living and do everything correctly Believe me you should give things there best chance I think your wrong and if I was the OP i would not take a chance or he'll be getting the mop out Two machines dispersing together sends the water at a hell of a rate. OP its better to be safe than sorry there are lots of things to add into the equation I don't know how many bends you all ready have, how long is the run to the drain don't listen to just any one phone a plumber in your local area and ask the question Each machine should have its on waste outlet don't you think that's obvious.
This is my final word on the matter it don't bother me what he doe's :p


its unlikey i would run both together, tho i might have both on a short cycle whilst empty and watch to see if it backs up or not. But i am expecting to have to run each separately, just so long as i dont have to change hoses each time, because if someone forgets....its splashy time lol

renown
I still stand by what i say any way 15 years your just a novice lol

Did I not see the old copper coloured pipe going through the wall in the original picture? that would suggest to me the original pipework has been there for sum time ! therfore its internal diameter could now only be 1" there are so many things to take into concideration all i'm saying is better to be cautious you cannot dissagree with that If your a tradsmen?


All ideas and comments are taken on board and i shall be very careful. You are correct to say that the waste pipe in the photo is original pipework of the house and though it appears large, im not it stays that size as it leaves the property. :)


rep has and will be handed out :thumbsup:
#25
Having another inspection, that copper pipe leaves the house that size, it doesnt get smaller, it looks a hefty size too, i cant imagine it only being 1" inside. doesnt make a sound likes it really thick when i tap it.
#26
he means an inch inside due to it being full of crud build up that you get over time.
banned#27
shanecr;5792084
something like this will do between the upright and the U bend then?
http://www.mc-alpine.de/shop/images/product_images/thumbnail_images/735_0.jpg


that should do fine I reckon assuming your waste pipe will fit on the connector (might need a jubilee clip).
#28
shanecr
something like this will do between the upright and the U bend then?
http://www.mc-alpine.de/shop/images/product_images/thumbnail_images/735_0.jpg
:


yeah, that's just what you need :thumbsup:
banned#29
shanecr;5790269
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/shanecr/DSC04776.jpg

I'm no expert but I think your washing machine output pipe (the flexible tube) is too low as surely that will contain water even now so may make machine smell.
#30
pinkleponkle
he means an inch inside due to it being full of crud build up that you get over time.


Ahhh. is there a way to clear it?

csiman
that should do fine I reckon assuming your waste pipe will fit on the connector (might need a jubilee clip).

i have seen something similar with a larger piece coming out, which i'll most likely get. Wast pipe will then just fit in it.

souljacker
yeah, that's just what you need :thumbsup:


nice one

csiman
I'm no expert but I think your washing machine output pipe (the flexible tube) is too low as surely that will contain water even now so may make machine smell.


Really? should i just raise the waste pipe from washing machine b then?
banned#31
shanecr;5792349
Ahhh. is there a way to clear it?


i have seen something similar with a larger piece coming out, which i'll most likely get. Wast pipe will then just fit in it.



nice one



Really? should i just raise the waste pipe from washing machine b then?

read the manual if you have it but I thought it should be at around the level of where it exits the machine.

If it goes down from the machine then up to the waste connection, then surely that will be forever filled with dirty water
#33


well the exit is at the top of the machine and sits higher than the entry into the waste tube, which is all the manual roughly said. it didnt mention how the tube should be inbetween.
#34
shane the waste from the washing machine is just fine
#35
pinkleponkle
shane the waste from the washing machine is just fine


:thumbsup:
#36
csiman
I'm no expert but I think your washing machine output pipe (the flexible tube) is too low as surely that will contain water even now so may make machine smell.


there is nothing wrong with it, the water is pumped out
banned#37
souljacker;5793050
there is nothing wrong with it, the water is pumped out

it is pumped out until the pump detects no more water, hence it comes out the top of the machine and then falls down into the waste. Shanes machine waste pipe appears to be on the ground so is lower than the trap so this will contain foul water. I would just raise this up level with the trap.

thats how I see it anyway. Pull out the pipe completely and lay it flat on the floor and check if water comes out.
#38
souljacker


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3480/3734300949_d6a54c91dc.jpg?v=0


i bought one of these T pieces, but it does not secure to the U bend. am i missing something or doing something wrong?
banned#39
shanecr;5818647
i bought one of these T pieces, but it does not secure to the U bend. am i missing something or doing something wrong?

you shouldnt need the periscope part
#40
csiman
you shouldnt need the periscope part


this is how it is just now.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/shanecr/DSC04790.jpg

but the t piece does not tighten fully on the u bend.

Periscope???

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