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Looking to build myself a PC

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7y, 8m agoPosted 7 years, 8 months ago
Would all these parts going together make a decent speed PC for use with Vista? Am I missing anything? (apart from things I can take from this PC - monitor,keyboard,mouse,PCI Soundcard,PCI Graphics card) Any cables I need?

Can anyone point me in the direction of parts to build a better one?
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7y, 8m agoPosted 7 years, 8 months ago
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#2
Yes, but at that price for the CPU, you'd do better getting a Q6600 quad core for very little more..

Tim
#3
timothyw9
Yes, but at that price for the CPU, you'd do better getting a Q6600 quad core for very little more..

Tim


Cheers. Updated
#4
do you watch movies on your monitor, if so maybe invest in a blu-ray drive, about £50 i think
#5
Would you consider a AMD pc, as you might be able to save a few £'s building that instead
#6
mrfun1981
Would you consider a AMD pc, as you might be able to save a few £'s building that instead


Stick with the Intel :) You'll need a case too, as well as a power supply :whistling:

You'll also need a sata cable (or two) to link the HDD and the DVD drive to the mobo.
#7
Cluffy321
do you watch movies on your monitor, if so maybe invest in a blu-ray drive, about £50 i think


Not on the PC no.
#8
DragonChris
Stick with the Intel :) You'll need a case too, as well as a power supply :whistling:

You'll also need a sata cable (or two) to link the HDD and the DVD drive to the mobo.


Yeah, still looking for a nice windowed Case with a PSU.

Will pop some cables in on ebuyer too.
#9
DragonChris
Stick with the Intel :) You'll need a case too, as well as a power supply :whistling:

You'll also need a sata cable (or two) to link the HDD and the DVD drive to the mobo.


There is nothing wrong with the new AMD cpu's if you look at some benchmarks you will see that AMD is on par with intel in a lot of cases unless you really want to spend over the odds for a i7.


OP what do you use the PC for. Gaming, encoding or other stuff?
#10
mrfun1981
There is nothing wrong with the new AMD cpu's if you look at some benchmarks you will see that AMD is on par with intel in a lot of cases unless you really want to spend over the odds for a i7.


OP what do you use the PC for. Gaming, encoding or other stuff?


Dont play games on the PC, just poker.
Use it for internet, converting, mixing, photoshop etc
#11
I went AMD Phenom II. In fact, I went 720 BE, which (if you get the right MB) should allow the 4th core to be unlocked. However, even if it doesn't, the unlocked multiplier will allow even an overclocking novice like me a VERY easy path to high performance. It will trounce a Q6600 in most real life applications for less money. and should be an easier upgrade route for most, being both AM2+ and AM3 compatible.
It also helps the little man, without whom, Intel would be taking the preverbial :thumbsup:
#12
Stainy
I went AMD Phenom II. In fact, I went 720 BE, which (if you get the right MB) should allow the 4th core to be unlocked. However, even if it doesn't, the unlocked multiplier will allow even an overclocking novice like me a VERY easy path to high performance. It will trounce a Q6600 in most real life applications for less money. and should be an easier upgrade route for most, being both AM2+ and AM3 compatible.
It also helps the little man, without whom, Intel would be taking the preverbial :thumbsup:


i would agree with you mate, iv got the 720BE, but i wasnt unable to unlock the 4th core.

OP If you went for the Phenom II 720 route it would save you around £40 which you could put to getting some other stuff for the pc, like maybe faster memory or bigger hard drive.

You will see from this link that there is not much difference with the q6600 Vs 720
http://ixbtlabs.com/articles3/cpu/amd-phenom-2-720-810-920-p2.html
#13
mrfun1981
You will see from this link that there is not much difference with the q6600 Vs 720
http://ixbtlabs.com/articles3/cpu/amd-phenom-2-720-810-920-p2.html


Hardly a fair test when it doesn't include a fast dual-core, if you look at the xbitlabs review you'll see that in the majority of those applications where cores don't matter the Phenom II is eclipsed by the similarly priced Core 2 Duo E7500. It also mentions the Phenom II's considerably higher power consumption which the other article doesn't even hint at. So it's not quite a rosy as it first appears, but it may still be worth looking at.

If you do decide to stick with a quad-core than the Q6600 also has higher power consumption than intel's other quad cores (although not as much as the Phenom II I believe), so if that's an issue then an 8- and 9- series Core 2 Quad would be a better choice.

Oh, and you can get a 500GB hdd instead of a 320GB one for a few pounds more.
#14
EndlessWaves
Hardly a fair test when it doesn't include a fast dual-core, if you look at the xbitlabs review you'll see that in the majority of those applications where cores don't matter the Phenom II is eclipsed by the similarly priced Core 2 Duo E7500. It also mentions the Phenom II's considerably higher power consumption which the other article doesn't even hint at. So it's not quite a rosy as it first appears, but it may still be worth looking at.

If you do decide to stick with a quad-core than the Q6600 also has higher power consumption than intel's other quad cores (although not as much as the Phenom II I believe), so if that's an issue then an 8- and 9- series Core 2 Quad would be a better choice.

Oh, and you can get a 500GB hdd instead of a 320GB one for a few pounds more.


Here is a more detailed review the the 720, http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3512&p=1 you will see it beats the E7500 it most test's. plus it does compare it against the i7 & the top core 2 quads.

You are wrong when it come to the power being use the q6600 use's 105w & the Phenon II 720 uses 95w.
http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?familyID=28398 (q6600)
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/phenomii_720_810_am3/2.htm (720)

Also one plus thing of the phenom II 's is that if you upgrage your motherboard in the future to use DDR3 memory you can still use the phenom II but you wont be able to do that with the Q6600.
#15
mrfun1981
Here is a more detailed review the the 720, http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3512&p=1 you will see it beats the E7500 it most test's. plus it does compare it against the i7 & the top core 2 quads.

That just confirms what I said, in those tests where it's not beaten by the Core 2 Quads it's beaten by the E7500 (not many in that review, obviously Anandtech believes you should be multi-core CPUs with multi-core supporting programs). As I said, it's a nice compromise and a good price, but it won't be for everyone.

mrfun1981
You are wrong when it come to the power being use the q6600 use's 105w & the Phenon II 720 uses 95w.
http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?familyID=28398 (q6600)
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/phenomii_720_810_am3/2.htm (720)

That's the TDP, not the power use.

mrfun1981

Also one plus thing of the phenom II 's is that if you upgrage your motherboard in the future to use DDR3 memory you can still use the phenom II but you wont be able to do that with the Q6600.


Yes you will, you're thinking of the Core i7 there. The Core 2s don't have an on-die memory controller so you can use whatever memory the motherboard supports.
#16
Don't forget you can get Quad Core PC's from Dell for around the £400 mark. Not saying this is the way to go, just throwing it out there, they have some nice discounts this month.
#17
EndlessWaves
That just confirms what I said, in those tests where it's not beaten by the Core 2 Quads it's beaten by the E7500 (not many in that review, obviously Anandtech believes you should be multi-core CPUs with multi-core supporting programs). As I said, it's a nice compromise and a good price, but it won't be for everyone.


I agree it won't be for everyone and every chip so far mentioned has it's merits.

However, I compared it to a Q6600 purely because that's what the OP was thinking of buying.
He didn't mention a Core 2 Duo. If he had, I would have pointed out that most programs that perform better with dual processors over quads do so usually because of processing speed. I would have also pointed out that the 720 will easily overclock to 3.5Ghz on air and 4.0Ghz is quite achievable on most. All this without any overclocking experience needed.

I realise other chips will overclock. The point I'm making remains the same. Great compromise between Duo/Quad for less money than most. The icing is that a manufacturing monolith don't get the money :thumbsup:
#18
:lol: right.. so eh.. whats the best option for me building a good PC for under £300..
#19
eyebaws
:lol: right.. so eh.. whats the best option for me building a good PC for under £300..


One of each: 155158, 145753, 143854, 150985, 146049, 151999 and 124228 (quick find codes on ebuyer)

Shipping Charge: £10.18 (Next Day)
Total: £296.56

That is how I would spend £300.00 and it will include everything you need (cables etc).

Although I would be tempted to find another £130ish and get a Desktop from Dell. That would include Vista, Quad Core and no building, all for only a little bit more money in my opinion.

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