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Lost season 5 finale discussion

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Have you watched it yet? What did you think. Be warned of spoilers!
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7y, 10m agoPosted 7 years, 10 months ago
Have you watched it yet? What did you think. Be warned of spoilers!
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banned#1
watched it today good eppies , is this the end of the show as it seems that way but they cant finish it how they did
#2
Kinda starting to think everything thats happened on this island, theyve caused.
#3
That fake Locke must be Jacob's enemy from the opening, some say he's the smoke monster who can take form of dead people on the island, which is why he told Richard to convince the real Locke to die to return to the island. Also remember he became Ben's dead daughter and told him to do everything Locke told him. For some reason Jacob's nemesis can't kill Jacob himself so had to trick Ben to do it.
#4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_the_Dead

the statue is something similar to the creature in the above links picture, I think the statue looked more like a crocodile's head rather than a birds head but you can see the crosses with the looped tops are the same, so egyptian culture seems to be tied into lost folklore.

just noticed that there are more than 1 type of animal head on the human bodies there is a crocodile on there aswell
#5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobek

reading what it says about the crocodile god you could interpret it a lot of ways that could make sense with what is going on in lost.

"Sobek's ambiguous nature led some Egyptians to believe that he was a repairer of evil that had been done"
is this jacobs purpose?

"He was also said to call on suitable gods and goddesses required for protecting people in situation, effectively having a more distant role, nudging things along, rather than taking an active part."
again because of jacobs absence but ever presence during the lifes of the lostees throught there lifes as kids or adults.
#6
I guess people are waiting to watch this on Sky?
#7
Abvance
I guess people are waiting to watch this on Sky?


Fools. who could wait. i couldnt.

Whats done is done as Sawyer said. Im putting money on the last series mimicking the first series,but from different viewpoints.
#8
shanecr
Fools. who could wait. i couldnt.

Whats done is done as Sawyer said. Im putting money on the last series mimicking the first series,but from different viewpoints.


I wouldn't call them all fools but anyway is the season finale on Sky tonight?
#9
Abvance
I wouldn't call them all fools but anyway is the season finale on Sky tonight?


lol it was only a bit of humour, not an actual put down. And yes, tv screening of the season finale is tonight, repeated tomorrow on sky2
#10
shanecr
lol it was only a bit of humour, not an actual put down. And yes, tv screening of the season finale is tonight, repeated tomorrow on sky2


Coolio, expecting a few more comments here after that, loved the inverted LOST logo at the end.
#11
no other comments?
#12
I saw it the other day. could not wait either, was good but i didn't think it was as good as some of the other season finales. And the story line just keeps getting more and more confusing. i swear the writers are on drugs haha
banned#13
Abvance
That fake Locke must be Jacob's enemy from the opening, some say he's the smoke monster who can take form of dead people on the island, which is why he told Richard to convince the real Locke to die to return to the island. Also remember he became Ben's dead daughter and told him to do everything Locke told him. For some reason Jacob's nemesis can't kill Jacob himself so had to trick Ben to do it.


Have you been mind reading?

I could have typed this! Pretty much exactly my thoughts.
#14
Very good finish tonight... Don't know how much to talk about if people havn't seen it. But the middle part of this season 'Lost' me. But I was back to guessing things and them happening tonight!
banned#15
cw9652
Very good finish tonight... Don't know how much to talk about if people havn't seen it. But the middle part of this season 'Lost' me. But I was back to guessing things and them happening tonight!


Given the thread title, it wouldn't be a problem.
#16
guv
Given the thread title, it wouldn't be a problem.


Ok... You#re foot get caught in chain and you're dragged down a huge hole... How did she live!! :?
#17
I thought the actor who played Jacob looked familiar, he played Paul Bennet in Dexter as well as loads of other TV shows, I think he lose a few pounds though.
banned#18
cw9652
Ok... You#re foot get caught in chain and you're dragged down a huge hole... How did she live!! :?



She had to live. If she hadn't, how could she have killed herself by detonating the Nuke!!! :w00t:
#19
Abvance
I thought the actor who played Jacob looked familiar, he played Paul Bennet in Dexter as well as loads of other TV shows, I think he lose a few pounds though.


Ah thanks, it was bugging me where I knew him from.
#20
Abvance
That fake Locke must be Jacob's enemy from the opening, some say he's the smoke monster who can take form of dead people on the island, which is why he told Richard to convince the real Locke to die to return to the island. Also remember he became Ben's dead daughter and told him to do everything Locke told him. For some reason Jacob's nemesis can't kill Jacob himself so had to trick Ben to do it.


makes sense. but whats his issue with jacob? and how come thing were flying around int he cabin??? whay did jacob ask Ilana to help him? sooo many questions...
whats gonna happen to the 70s crew...it coincides with the death of jacob...... !!!
#21
where is benji and titchi?!
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magicbeans
where is benji and titchi?!


I'm here!!

magicbeans
makes sense. but whats his issue with jacob? and how come thing were flying around int he cabin??? whay did jacob ask Ilana to help him? sooo many questions...
whats gonna happen to the 70s crew...it coincides with the death of jacob...... !!!


Jacob and Easu (dude from the beach at beginning of episode) are brothers. They constantly fight their whole lives for supremacy over the other. Need to read a bit more to see how it plays out but I think there's a bit of confusion as to how it ends, people believe different things happened. Maybe ties in with Jacob saying there's only one ending?

Not too sure why things were flying round the cabin, can't quite make my mind up whether that was Jacob or Easu in there. Either way I think they were trapped in there by the other brother. One of them was asking for John's help.

I think Jacob has set in place all the things to happen, so for Ilana he wanted her to take John's body to Richard to prove that John wasn't really John. That's why she went to Richard rather than to Jacob.

I think the 70's crew flashed to 2007 at the end of the episode. Either the bomb explodes and is pretty much cancelled out by the energy pocket and Dharma then bury it with concrete or it doesn't explode, we just see them flashing and then Dharma bury it with concrete and have it as the failsafe. Either way I think whatever happened happened.

I think that when the second plane crash happened that Aaron, even though he wasn't on the plane flashed back too. He flashed back and was brought up by another (remember, raised by another) then in 2004 he gets called to the island somehow (aged 30). He then lives on the island for 3 years and dies around the same time as Jacob, now Aaron is aged 33. Oh yeah, and did I mention, he's Jesus.

Season 6 possibly breaks into the realms of revelations. Jesus returned and everyone being judged.

What lies in the shadow of the statue? He who saves us all.
What bothers me is that fits more with Jesus than Jacob, it would appear that Jacob set all this up pulling people to the island in order for him to be killed. This is his sacrifice to take away all our sin.
#23
^^^^^^^^^^^ clever benji......

u get more rep\!!!!!!
#24
magicbeans
^^^^^^^^^^^ clever benji......

u get more rep\!!!!!!


lol! Most of it is from what I've read on the lost forums, I didn't come up with all that myself!!!

I wonder if Jack is Joseph? Helped raise Aaron even though he wasn't the father? Joseph raised Jesus even though God was Jesus' father.

What if Jacob is Aaron, travelled back in time and from then on stopped aging. Same as Richard Alpert doesn't age.

Not too sure who are the gods, Jacob and Easu would appear to be Gods. Richard, Ben and Widmore too?

It would appear that Easu tricked Ben into killing Jacob, Easu could be the smoke monster too who, through Alex's appearance, told Ben to do whatever he said. Can't work out why Jacob wanted it to happen though, he didn't put up much of a fight and it would appear that he brought the people to the island. Maybe it's all part of his sacrifice but then that sounds more like Jesus to me.
#25
#26
Don't think Jacob is dead as such, think he's going to use Frank's body. I'm sure Frank has a purpose on the island and was referred to as a potential candidate. This is the only explanation that I can come up with that fits the clue that the writers gave as to the identity of Jacob. Unless someone can come up with a better one?

Why did Jacob not talk to Ben all his life and why mock him which probably made sure Ben would kill him? Why does he want to die? Is it progress as he can accomplish something better in the next body?

Notice that bodies tend to be buried/burned/recovered in lost. Richard was very keen for the body to be returned when he spoke with Dharma in about episode 4 of this season. Two bodies that weren't buried were Christian Shepard and John Locke, look what happened to them!


People suggesting that the fish at the beginning was a red herring? Although it doesn't really look like one but maybe it was supposed to be. It was placed on a black rock, which was the ship which was coming in, which ends up inland somehow?
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http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=52616&page=12

Last two posts of this thread make for good reading.
#28
Whats up with the Guitar.? (nice info Benjimoron +REP)
#29
I loved the last episode.
I think though in true lost fashion things will turn out very different to how they look now, with the ways they have showed Jacob through this episode it looks very much like Jacob is the good guy, his brother says he wants to kill him etc, imho i think he might turn out to be the bad guy.
#30
Titchimp
I loved the last episode.
I think though in true lost fashion things will turn out very different to how they look now, with the ways they have showed Jacob through this episode it looks very much like Jacob is the good guy, his brother says he wants to kill him etc, imho i think he might turn out to be the bad guy.


That may be what the red herring is all about? Or simply to show that the Locke we're looking at isn't the real Locke?
#31
Good read thanks for the link.
banned#32
Benjimoron
That may be what the red herring is all about? Or simply to show that the Locke we're looking at isn't the real Locke?


Locke has always said he felt as one with the Island and belonged. the flashback we saw of him trying to fly and meeting Jacob on his back obviously has a clear connection. What that is, I havent a clue - especially as it didnt seem to play out to plan and he gets fried!

But hey, this Island is magical and time travel possible. Who knows. I think its probably best not to dig too deep at times, 'cos it always seems to introduce flaws on one thing or another.
#33
Benjimoron


I think that when the second plane crash happened that Aaron, even though he wasn't on the plane flashed back too. He flashed back and was brought up by another (remember, raised by another) then in 2004 he gets called to the island somehow (aged 30). He then lives on the island for 3 years and dies around the same time as Jacob, now Aaron is aged 33. Oh yeah, and did I mention, he's Jesus.

.


I'm confused
Where did Aaron come into it? There was no mention of him in the past few episodes was there?
#34
guv
Locke has always said he felt as one with the Island and belonged. the flashback we saw of him trying to fly and meeting Jacob on his back obviously has a clear connection. What that is, I havent a clue - especially as it didnt seem to play out to plan and he gets fried!

But hey, this Island is magical and time travel possible. Who knows. I think its probably best not to dig too deep at times, 'cos it always seems to introduce flaws on one thing or another.


Locke trying to fly? He got pushed out a window by his dad didn't he?

I don't think we've fully seen Jacob's plan yet, I wouldn't say what he wanted has failed just because Ben killed him. I'm tempted to say that was all part of his plan, otherwise he wouldn't have taunted Ben and he would have put up some kind of resistance to being stabbed to death!
#35
beverley1403
I'm confused
Where did Aaron come into it? There was no mention of him in the past few episodes was there?


No, just a little theory I thought I'd throw in there. The show is starting to show it's bible roots now with Jacob and Esau etc.

The times all match that of Jesus so would fit well.
#36
It's obvious that jacob and Essau are either small gods on earth or are 2 forces on an island that are preventing (jacob) or wanting(essau) the end of something to come about, remember what jacob says after ben stabs him. "they're coming".

I think jacob was a force of prevention, holding back something. wether essau knew what would happen if he killed jacob or if he didnt care.

In my earlier posts 6 and 7, I have found out that the statue is of sobek, an egyptian deity. this is what it says about him and it seems to sum up jacob to a tee.

"He was also said to call on suitable gods and goddesses required for protecting people in situation, effectively having a more distant role, nudging things along, rather than taking an active part."


"Sobek's ambiguous nature led some Egyptians to believe that he was a repairer of evil that had been done"
#37
Ironic that Ben killed the guy who saved him as a child.

What are the chances that Jacob is actually Ben's father? Might we see a flashback showing Jacob with Ben's mother?
#38
Omg just watched it from last night, i hate the adverts so watch it all in a oner, and all i can say is...CRACKING! :) Roll on the next season
#39
Oh and i actually reckon Jacob and the "baddie" locke are brothers, which is why they said they had met previously to ben.
#40
Abvance
That fake Locke must be Jacob's enemy from the opening, some say he's the smoke monster who can take form of dead people on the island, which is why he told Richard to convince the real Locke to die to return to the island. Also remember he became Ben's dead daughter and told him to do everything Locke told him. For some reason Jacob's nemesis can't kill Jacob himself so had to trick Ben to do it.


Are you sure fake lock is the monster? the reason I ask this is... remember when ben tells fake lock

"I started thinking differently about things when my dead daughter threatened to destroy me if I didnt do everything you said"

Fake lock was shocked.. and asked when that happened....

explain that one :P

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