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Malaysia airliner crashes in Ukraine

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2y, 4m agoPosted 2 years, 4 months ago
295 people on board
Flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur
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2y, 4m agoPosted 2 years, 4 months ago
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Joseph have you been drinking? Russia is an oppressive regime, they invaded another country & murdered some it's citizens...& now they've shot nearly 300 innocent people out of the sky in a clear act of state sponsored terrorism
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deeky
KillFelix
deeky
Aeschylus

none of the above, I watch unedited footage as you get the 'true' story usually,
KillFelix

It's graphic but unfortunately it's the only way to get the true story these days.

No offence but the true story about what? How mangled they were? They've been blasted out of the sky and then crashed into the hard ground from thousands of feet in the air. They're gonna be dead and mangled and there's no need to see how 'dead and mangled' they are.

I think those that film and post the graphic stuff in the first place are sick

Not just this story but others like Syria too. So much stuff is covered up and muted in the media and LL is a good source to use. It's not like I went there to see bodies or anything, you never know what you're gonna see. There may have been footage of the missile or it's impact damage on the plane that can help you form a clearer image of what took place. The thing that's making the rounds at the moment is that phone call. Has that been reported on the mainstream media?

Ok, but you knew that you would see horrific mutilations. I read this thread last night where it was mentioned but didn't want to see.
If you can stomach that as the price for maybe seeing the other stuff you mentioned, then fair play to you.
Maybe I'm just too squeamish.

Anyway, I'm not gonna lie and pretend that I haven't.

I have seen my fair share of horrific videos on that site. You might say "Why would you want to watch something like that?" well the truth is I really don't, but my curiosity just sometimes gets the better of me I guess. I don't enjoy watching them at all, but I must admit it has taught me a fair few valuable lessons. 1) ALWAYS fasten your seatbelt. 2) If you're a pedestrian then always pay attention to your surroundings. Accidents do happen and some (but not all) can be avoided.

The third lesson I have learned is probably the most important, and I suppose it's not really a lesson I can pass on verbally. Seeing the things that I have seen has in some way taught me how to deal with such an event should I witness one in real life.

It sounds strange, if I were to witness a car crash or something similar in real life and I'd not seen those video's I think my body would just go into shock and I'd be pretty much a useless, shivering wreck. Now, because I have seen them it has, to a degree, desensitised me to such events, so again in the same situation I just may, just may, be able to function just enough in order to put myself to some good use and actually save someone.

Edited By: KillFelix on Jul 18, 2014 14:27
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DarkEnergy2012
LifeNews are at the scene & reporting around 10 Brits & over 20 Americans among the dead :(

No offense intended here, but that should be no sadder than the other 270 people needlessly losing their lives.
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They should show mangled bodies (id hidden) on the news after the watershed so people can see what really happens in wars/conflicts.

People at the moment are all to keen to send troops to war as they dont get to see the reality of war. These folk believe war is clean and is just like a video game. They cant see the real suffering caused to civilians and the damage done to their own soldiers minds.

War aint pretty .

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3 Likes #5

Uh-oh indeed. Cue the blame game between Russia and Ukraine...
#6


If that's the case then it's double uh oh.
#7
Dangerous times, reminds me of 1983
banned#8
Appalling news if it turns out to be true.
#9
Not sure of the facts here. But I'm sure any other country would do the same in the event of an aircraft flying over military space
#10
We really need to distance ourselves from the EU and US and start building a good, strong relationship with Russia.

Of course, the best scenario would be US, UK, EU, Russia, Japan and South Korea all as allies to fight terror and oppressive regimes but that seems highly unlikely.
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Joseph have you been drinking? Russia is an oppressive regime, they invaded another country & murdered some it's citizens...& now they've shot nearly 300 innocent people out of the sky in a clear act of state sponsored terrorism
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DarkEnergy2012
Joseph have you been drinking? Russia is an oppressive regime, they invaded another country & murdered some it's citizens...& now they've shot nearly 300 innocent people out of the sky in a clear act of state sponsored terrorism

There is no proof yet that Russia is responsible.
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toshapetriji
DarkEnergy2012
Joseph have you been drinking? Russia is an oppressive regime, they invaded another country & murdered some it's citizens...& now they've shot nearly 300 innocent people out of the sky in a clear act of state sponsored terrorism

There is no proof yet that Russia is responsible.

I was about to say. Either way, 300 innocent people have lost their lives. Very sad. :(
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komakino

I was about to say. Either way, 300 innocent people have lost their lives. Very sad. :(
200 Palestinian deaths in the past 2 weeks, this is a great distraction, I wouldn't be surprised if Mossad is behind this
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It's not at all in Russia's interests for the government to officially order the shooting down of a foreign civilian aircraft.
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qavi23
komakino

I was about to say. Either way, 300 innocent people have lost their lives. Very sad. :(
200 Palestinian deaths in the past 2 weeks, this is a great distraction, I wouldn't be surprised if Mossad is behind this

oO Calm down please.

(Palestinian deaths also very sad).
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josephmccowie
It's not at all in Russia's interests for the government to officially order the shooting down of a foreign civilian aircraft.

If Russia has any involvement it will be because they are supplying arms to the so called 'separatist militias' in Ukraine. Their proxy army in Ukraine.

The suggestion that it is Mossad is too stupid to even warrant discussion.
#18
Apparently An Air Force fighter jet has been shot down by an air-to-air missile fired from a Russian plane, a spokesman for Ukraine's Security Council said Thursday.
AND
Pro-Russia rebels, meanwhile, claimed responsibility for strikes Wednesday on two Ukrainian Sukhoi-25 jets.

"Not sure of the facts here. But I'm sure any other country would do the same in the event of an aircraft flying over military space"
Flights follow predetermined flight path and gain permission, The flight wont be at fault. Either Ukraine or Russia shot it down
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toshapetriji
josephmccowie
It's not at all in Russia's interests for the government to officially order the shooting down of a foreign civilian aircraft.

If Russia has any involvement it will be because they are supplying arms to the so called 'separatist militias' in Ukraine. Their proxy army in Ukraine.

The suggestion that it is Mossad is too stupid to even warrant discussion.

A defence expert has told the BBC that shooting down a plane at 10,000m (9.7 miles) would have required a long- range surface-to-air missile - possibly guided by radar.
That suggests it is unlikely it could have been downed by a portable air defence missile, or Manpad, which has a much shorter range.
The only other possibility is for an aircraft at that height to be downed by a fighter carrying air-to-air missiles.

I dont think 'separatist militias' in Ukraine are likely
banned#20
Unlikely is not the same as not possible. There are other possibilities.

http://www.ibtimes.com/malaysia-airlines-mh17-buk-missile-may-have-been-cause-ukraine-crash-1631416
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toshapetriji
Unlikely is not the same as not possible. There are other possibilities.

http://www.ibtimes.com/malaysia-airlines-mh17-buk-missile-may-have-been-cause-ukraine-crash-1631416

This is only a comment on a website so maybe completely false
The separatists claimed they shot down what they thought was a cargo airliner. When news broke it was a passenger craft they took down their post and the Russian media have blacked out the report. It's obvious who did it.
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davidian84
toshapetriji
Unlikely is not the same as not possible. There are other possibilities.

http://www.ibtimes.com/malaysia-airlines-mh17-buk-missile-may-have-been-cause-ukraine-crash-1631416

This is only a comment on a website so maybe completely false
The separatists claimed they shot down what they thought was a cargo airliner. When news broke it was a passenger craft they took down their post and the Russian media have blacked out the report. It's obvious who did it.

I think the separatists were half right the did shoot something down just not a cargo plan with Russian supplied arms. Anyway let's see how it plays out. Crimea is not finished yet either.
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Just because it takes series kit to target such a high flying plane doesn't mean it wasn't shot down accidentally by a more low grade weapon, too early to tell it may have had engine trouble, after the changing stories told of MH370, I wouldn't trust a word of what they say about the flight path and altitude etc
banned#24
Pics of the crash site floating around on Twitter.

Sadly some too graphic to display here :(
#25
Yeah don't search twitter for mh17, not nice at all
#26
Disturbing video on youtube of guy showing off passports collected at scene including close up shots of photos and details.
#27
Ukraine's President calling it an Act of Terror.

Apparently shot down in a Rebel (pro Russian separatist) area. They would have used a ground to air missile launcher that would have probably been abandoned by Ukraine when they left these areas in East Ukraine. Such a missile would have picked up the fact that there was a plane in the air but may not have picked up the fact that it was a commercial plane.

Also, tweets were made by separatists claiming to have shot down another Ukraine military plane. This was the same source who tweeted about shooting down a Ukrainian plane last week. The tweet was removed when it was revealed it wasn't a military plane.

Or that could be wrong and anti aircraft weaponry could have been provided by Russia.

Or such a missile may not have been able to hit a plane and it may have just crashed.

Either way RIP to those aboard.
#28
Bully
Disturbing video on youtube of guy showing off passports collected at scene including close up shots of photos and details.

see now why do people do things like that, bad enough taking pictures of the passangers without some burk confirming identities when the relatives may not even know yet.
#29
A Dutch man posted a picture of what is believed to be flight MH17 on Facebook, joking "if we disappear, this is what the plane looks like''

http://i62.tinypic.com/2d46tc.jpg
#30
Sadly this isnt the first commercial airliner to be shot down and it wont be the last either.
#31
Unfortunate but not surprising after MH370 I'm sure there's been a few jokes made about their planes from passangers.
#32
This could be the beginning of WW3 serious.
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shauneco
This could be the beginning of WW3 serious.

how do you come to that conclusion?
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shauneco
This could be the beginning of WW3 serious.

how do you come to that conclusion?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archduke_Franz_Ferdinand_of_Austria
1 Like #35
This isn't the first passanger plane deliberately shot down, possibly by a state and it won't be the last, none of the others turned into WW3 so I don't see why this one will.
#36
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shauneco
This could be the beginning of WW3 serious.

how do you come to that conclusion?

World point's gun at Russia/Ukraine they point guns everywhere, Korea join Russia as allies etc.. Bad times ahead.
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toshapetriji
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shauneco
This could be the beginning of WW3 serious.

how do you come to that conclusion?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archduke_Franz_Ferdinand_of_Austria
shauneco
Error440
shauneco
This could be the beginning of WW3 serious.

how do you come to that conclusion?

World point's gun at Russia/Ukraine they point guns everywhere, Korea join Russia as allies etc.. Bad times ahead.

Slight over stretching there IMO guys.
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Error440
shauneco
This could be the beginning of WW3 serious.

how do you come to that conclusion?

Something will kick off if it's discovered that if this plane was shot down and by missiles supplied by Russia or shot from the Russian side of the border.

23 US citizens were killed. America will respond if the above was the case.

No one knows atm
banned#39
Error440
This isn't the first passanger plane deliberately shot down, possibly by a state and it won't be the last, none of the others turned into WW3 so I don't see why this one will.

Not every war started with the assassination with some dude with a moustache either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archduke_Franz_Ferdinand_of_Austria
#40
RIP MH17 , I just hope that enough damage was done to quickly depressurise the aircraft.

I'd hate to be Putin right now, he's not going to have a good time when Karma finally catches up.

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