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Maybe a bridge camera? was - Intro digital SLR camera?

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I'm thinking about changing my pocket-sized digital camera for a digital SLR camera, as I enjoy taking photos but I'm frustrated by the slowness of my camera, and have taken some great pics myself wit… Read More
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9y, 2w agoPosted 9 years, 2 weeks ago
I'm thinking about changing my pocket-sized digital camera for a digital SLR camera, as I enjoy taking photos but I'm frustrated by the slowness of my camera, and have taken some great pics myself with a friend's SLR camera (admittedly it was a v expensive one, though!)

Are the entry-level digital SLR cameras worth getting? I don't have loads of money to spend, so I'm going to be after as cheap a package as possible - so an entry-level one. And, if they are worth getting, does anybody have any recommendations for me?

I'm really clueless technically about these cameras, so any advice would be great. Otherwise, I'd be taking the advice of a salesman - who isn't going to be as unbiased as the folk here !

I'm mainly taking holiday photos, and photos of juniorb as she's growing up - but she moves quickly !

Thanks for any advice
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9y, 2w agoPosted 9 years, 2 weeks ago
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1 Like #1
Well "real" SLR cameras are very expensive.

One of the main benefits of an SLR is that when you look throught the viewfinder you are actually looking through the lens, so the picture you take is EXACTLY what you see through the viewfinder. This is NOT the case with a compact digital camera.

They als have interchangable lenses, but the lenses are also very expensive so it would cost you a lot to even buy 2 lenses so you can swap.

The sort of cameras you are talking about here are Nikon D60 with 18-55 lens at about £400 or a Canon EOS 450D with a 18-55 lens at £500.

If you want to move up the scale but not pay out for a "proper" SLR you can get a hybrid which has some of the features of an SLR but not all of them (you cannot change the lens for example).

I have a Fuji S6500 like this:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51HmEMH3c4L._SS400_.jpg

I bought it about a year ago when it was being replaced and got it very cheaply (under £100 I think). Even though it is not a "proper" SLR the viewfinder does show what exactly what is coming through the lens.

The lens is fixed so cannot be changed, but it is a 10x optical zoom so you hardly need another lens. It has many of the settings like an SLR so you can learn some of the techniques, while saving up for a proper SLR.

They dont make the S6500 any more but you can buy something similar.

For example, here is an example picked at random from Tesco.

http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.203-0497.aspx

I think it is good to look for an end of life model if you can because they often slash the price the sell them off before they introduce the new model. I got mine at Dixons.
1 Like #2
We recently got a Canon A540, it's not an SLR but is supposedly a good camera for people wanting more out of their camera without moving all the way to SLR. Got my one for £33 from Ebay and it's probably the best camera in the house at the moment
1 Like #3
Will will not go wrong with a nikon D40 kit for about £276

A smaller DSLR camera and a very good lens kit for the money.

revierws here.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/NikonD40/
1 Like #4
I know what you mean, since I upgraded to an SLR I've never looked back - I really like the speed and flexibility which current fixed lens cameras are unable to touch, the phase detection AF system is significantly faster than the contrast detect system fixed lens cameras use. Also having an optical viewfinder makes it much easier to track as there's no delays for the screen to update. SLRs normally have larger buffers allowing them to fire in burst modes for longer and often faster as well.

I'd have a serious look at the Olympus E-410 and Olympus E-510 dual lens kits, my first SLR was an E-500 dual lens kit as I wanted something which out of the box would do as I needed. Both dual lens kits come with the same two lenses, the 14-42mm and the 40-150mm lens which gives you an equivalent focal length of 28-300mm which covers wide angle up to a reasonable telephoto. Both kit lenses are very small, light and are pretty much the best of the kit lenses.

The E-410 has already been replaced (by the E-420) and the E-510 is likely to be replaced soon so there's some good deals to be had on them. The E-410 is the smallest digital SLR there is (the E-400, E410 and E-420 have pretty much the same body) however there is no image stabilisation which to me is a strong disadvantage although this camera is quite a bit cheaper. The E-510 has a slight grip making it more comfortable to use, direct access to common functions using shortcuts on the back of the camera and it features in body stabilisation - the sensor itself moves to stabilise camera shake which makes quite a difference.

I think the E-510 dual lens kit particularly offers a good out of the box package that won't leave you needing to spend money immediately to get it more complete.

With any SLR system I'd recommend working out exactly what you need and pricing it up first as with SLRs you're not buying a camera you're buying into a system. Examples would be macro lens, flash, long telephoto lens etc.

John
1 Like #5
I have a d80 with a couple of lenses and wow!!! its awesome, but to be fair i dont use it for hol pics etc but for more substantial pictures, if you are on a budget i would honestly suggest getting a very very good compact rather than a very very cheap slr, try the new r8 for an idea of a sweet compact
#6
This has just been posted on this site.

Seems a good deal at £99.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/179820/fuji-finepix-s5700-digital-camera-b/

Not a true SLR, but a step towards one at a very low cost.
1 Like #7
I bought my first DSLR a few months ago and went for the Nikon D80 and it's bloody awesome. I got a 18-135mm lens with it for £625 and that lens alone is worth £200. One thing good photographers tell you is "the lens is hugely important". So taking that on board I thought that an entry is about 400 with a ****** lens, and factoring that in I went for the more substantial D80. Sometimes paying that bit more is worth it. :)

And don't be fooled by the Megapixel Myth either. 10MP is still huge!
#8
guilbert53;2071351
This has just been posted on this site.

Seems a good deal at £99.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/179820/fuji-finepix-s5700-digital-camera-b/

Not a true SLR, but a step towards one at a very low cost.


It's nothing close - it's basically a point and shoot with a big zoom on it, although these cameras may look like SLRs that's really the only similarity there is. Looking at speed only, an SLR is going to be faster all round thanks to the bigger sensor allowing better high ISO (and in turn higher shutter speeds), faster AF, bigger buffer and faster shutter.

John
1 Like #9
s5800 id recommend
#10
dandoc2;2071895
s5800 id recommend


Based on what exactly? It offers none of the speed of an SLR which is the reason the person wants one for.

John
#11
Johnmcl7
Based on what exactly? It offers none of the speed of an SLR which is the reason the person wants one for.

John


as an intro slr - its more of a bridge - hey ive got it and its a fantastic camera

can get it for about £115 from pixmania

http://www.cameras.co.uk/reviews/fuji-finepix-s5800.cfm
1 Like #12
stora;2070577
Will will not go wrong with a nikon D40 kit for about £276

A smaller DSLR camera and a very good lens kit for the money.

revierws here.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/NikonD40/


Nikon D40 is very good vfm.
#13
dandoc2;2071907
as an intro slr - its more of a bridge - hey ive got it and its a fantastic camera

can get it for about £115 from pixmania

http://www.cameras.co.uk/reviews/fuji-finepix-s5800.cfm

It's no intro to an SLR and the reason the person wants is an SLR is for the speed which the 5800 does not have - it's a compact camera with a big zoom, the only camera that Fuji offers which could be properly classified as a bridge camera is their new S100fs with its 2/3 inch sensor but even that does not offer the speed of an entry level SLR either.

John
#14
hmmm ... sounds like the Nikon is a good idea, then.
I'll go and have a look at one in a shop.

Any advice what to watch out for, if (when!) the sales guy tries to talk me into a more expensive one?
#15
The main catch with the Nikon D40, D40X and D60 is that they lack an AF motor instead relying on the lens to have an AF motor. It depends on your lens choice how big an issue this is, for some it's not an issue but others it is. These cameras are certainly popular as entry level SLRs.

If you start getting pushed up to midrange cameras which are out of your budget then just make that clear.

John
#16
Rep given to everyone for helping - thanks.

Well, I went, and I looked. And I did the maths on the money.... which has got me thinking.

Are there any bridge cameras that anybody would recommend? Or knows of any good offers on? Then I can got back to the shop and compare 'the best of the bridges' with 'a cheap dSLR' and work out if the dSLR is going to be worth the difference.

thanks again
#17
You can get the Nikon 40 from amazon with the lens kit for £271.11 plus you can claim £30 cashback from Nikon up until the end of July.. So for little over £240 you'll be set up with a fantatic camera..

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000KIX65S/ref=nosim?tag=econv-1-411-21

Amcol bought a Nikon D40 this morning and took some good photo's already......

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/107205/showpost.php?p=2161770&postcount=1129
#18
Ooo im putting my Fuji S6500fd up for sale later, similar to a DSLR its not one, but its not a little compact!
#19
Yeah i have a D40, got it today and love itttttttt!
#20
Did you manage to take some more photo's with your nice shinny new camera amcol?? I thought you took some stunning photo's with your fuji too...
#21
Yeah i have taken nearly 200 pics today, i love my fuji be sad to see it go, thought it would be hard to top that camera, but this Nikon is something special!
#22
My main concern with the Nikon D40 is the lens it comes with - from what I understand, it doesn't zoom very far. So for pictures of animals at the zoo (etc) it might not be good enough?

So I'm expecting to have to buy an extra lens - which are very expensive !
1 Like #23
melissab
My main concern with the Nikon D40 is the lens it comes with - from what I understand, it doesn't zoom very far. So for pictures of animals at the zoo (etc) it might not be good enough?

So I'm expecting to have to buy an extra lens - which are very expensive !


I think you'll find that with any of the entry level DSLR's.. I've got a canon eos350d and the lens that came with that is not up to much.. It stil takes photo's as good as any point and shoot but if you want to take it to the next level I think you have to spend.. I've been looking for a lens for mine which was recommend by pugwash and that is £200 plus.. and that's a cheap one.
#24
Yeah i was lucky to get another lense with mine for price i paid today as normally would of been about £150 + more on top of the £299 i paid.

I would recommend the old fuji i had, did some amazing photos of the moon etc with it, brilliant reviews as well. Not saying that coz im selling my old one but i got some real good reports from photos taken with my old camera.
#25
where did you get yours from, amcol, if it came with an extra lens for £300? sounds like a good deal !
1 Like #26
I got mine as a deal from London Camera Exchange - i must admit 2nd user but in excellent condition!!

http://www.lcegroup.co.uk/index_group.php see if there is one near you and you can check what they have in stock, they do fab deals. Mine only done a few shots previous to me buying it.
#27
have played agin with the Nikon D40, and there's no way the standard lens will give me enough zoom, so I'd need to buy an extra lens - so the price will be about £500. Which is more than I want to spend.

So, a bridge camera it is ....

I need as fast a response as possible, and also a large optical zoom - I have seen some x18mags. Any recommendations? Any hot deals?

As always, rep given to those who help me.
thanks
#28
no need for any advice - have got myself sorted out now
rep has been added to everyone who helped me.

thanks

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