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McCain or Obama? Why the best man still might lose...

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8y, 3m agoPosted 8 years, 3 months ago
A small section from an article in this week's New Statesman, which argues that McCain has, surprisingly, got the edge on this election. It also reminded me of recent conversations here.

Anti-intellectual
This, I think, rather than the race aspect people in London kept going on about - we should remember, after all, that Obama is every bit as white as he is black and that his biracialism is both electorally advantageous and disadvantageous - is how America is beginning to differentiate between the two candidates. America, as de Tocqueville so perceptively pointed out, is profoundly anti-intellectual - and Obama is already beginning to discover that his Ivy League education is a hindrance rather than a boon.

It was McCain who won the who-would-you-rather-have-a-beer-with test in Saddleback; Obama came across as someone more likely to send the Chablis back to have it cooled by a couple of degrees. Straight talk, whether it is right or wrong, or "know-nothingness" in the words of Paul Krugman, is what Americans want to hear; answers and solutions have to be in simple black and white and not nuanced.

Americans, in fact, simply don't do nuance. [ ... and the article continues with good examples / evidence. Read it and weep... ]
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8y, 3m agoPosted 8 years, 3 months ago
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#2
Sick of the black or white debate, who cares what colour is president, boring
#3
McCain obviously. His chips are far superior. ( We hope its chips,its chips, We hope its chips,its chips, We hope its chips,its chips,etc)
banned#4
Personally, Obama is by far the better candidate AFAICS. He seems capable of appealing to the masses unlike McCain. (Though his oven chips aren't as popular!)

But then, this is the US we are talking about. Any country that could elect George W Bush (albeit by somewhat dodgy means) and Ronald Reagan, I have to say, I'd question their rights to be a democracy! OK, that maybe tongue in cheek, but if they were the best candidates the most powerful country in the world can come up with, then god help the rest of them.
#5
Obama is still young in the tooth though but at least he's brought on a senior senator with good foreign policy sense as his second.

To be honest I don't see McCain surviving a full term in office..he's really really old......plus with all them chips he's bound to have high cholesterol
#6
skusey
Sick of the black or white debate, who cares what colour is president, boring

you might not, but alot of people in the US will.
#7
The article in the right-wing New Statesman has some interesting points. It is very unsurprising. The democratic party mirrored the rest of the US in treating Hillary Clinton as a woman whom they love to hate - it is almost a national pass-time. Clever educated and female - hardly any chance at all, despite being the better candidate and the one more likely to give McCain a run for his money. The skin colour issue may have just swung it for Obama in getting the nomination; it will have no effect on the presidential battle. Obama has insufficient experience and lacks a genuine touch. Both candidates will be voted for on their American-ness, in much the same way as George W was 'elected' as a good ol' Texan boy and their ability to speak the common tongue. IMO!!
#8
chesso
The article in the right-wing New Statesman has some interesting points. It is very unsurprising. The democratic party mirrored the rest of the US in treating Hillary Clinton as a woman whom they love to hate - it is almost a national pass-time. Clever educated and female - hardly any chance at all, despite being the better candidate and the one more likely to give McCain a run for his money. The skin colour issue may have just swung it for Obama in getting the nomination; it will have no effect on the presidential battle. Obama has insufficient experience and lacks a genuine touch. Both candidates will be voted for on their American-ness, in much the same way as George W was 'elected' as a good ol' Texan boy and their ability to speak the common tongue. IMO!!


erm ... New Statesman right wing?! :? I think you must be confusing it with some other publication. If anything, it's on the further edges of the left. But that aside, I agree that 'americanness' will be crucial, as always, as Obama has already shown by his own shift to the right since getting the nomination. I'd also really like to know where you got the idea that the NS leans to the right though.
#9
Liddle ol' me
erm ... New Statesman right wing?! :? I think you must be confusing it with some other publication. If anything, it's on the further edges of the left. But that aside, I agree that 'americanness' will be crucial, as always, as Obama has already shown by his own shift to the right since getting the nomination. I'd also really like to know where you got the idea that the NS leans to the right though.

Can't imagine what I was thinking!! I was intending to say something about the US and political commentary on the right wing . Senior moment. .:oops:
#10
black gerbil1
you might not, but alot of people in the US will.


exactly, this is the UK:thinking:
#11
chesso
Can't imagine what I was thinking!! I was intending to say something about the US and political commentary on the right wing . Senior moment. .:oops:


Yes, we all have those, often brought on by copius amounts of red wine. Have you been hitting the bottle tonight chesso? :p
#12
In the words of Eminem:

"I don't rap for dead presidents,
i'd rather see the president dead,
its never been said but i set presidence"

In the words of Immortal Technique

"We might even have a black president but he's useless because he does not control the economy stupid"
#13
In the words of Papoose:

Too many lies, now it's revealed that they snakes
So the United States
Gotta save face
And what better way to restore then peoples fate?
Obama and Hilary In a Presidential Race
Some say this is our time to rule
First black president, powerful move
Barak Obama could change the complection
Of the white house
But can he change the direction?
That's what I doubt?


The truth has been spoken. Does it really matter who will become president? Will anything change? I doubt it.
#14
Liddle ol' me
Yes, we all have those, often brought on by copius amounts of red wine. Have you been hitting the bottle tonight chesso? :p


No, but I used a lot of cleaning products today, perhaps my brain has dissolved !!:w00t:

JFK - Yes, it does matter who becomes President but sometimes I think that the 'world' cares more than the Americans.
Immortal Technique - good economy point .

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