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Just got this fellow today, he is 16 weeks old.
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6y, 1m agoPosted 6 years, 1 month ago
Just got this fellow today, he is 16 weeks old.
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6y, 1m agoPosted 6 years, 1 month ago
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A very unusual mixed breed
mum = mastweiler (mastiff x Rottweiler)
dad = Alsatian x Border Terrier,
his front legs are nearly as thick as my wrists and he has massive paws!
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s308/harlzter/DSC00080.jpg
1 Like #2
Looks mostly like a normal border terrier until you see his thick legs and lion paws!
1 Like #3
aww what a lovely looking fellor
1 Like #4
Well hello thar!

harlzter
Looks mostly like a normal border terrier until you see his thick legs and lion paws!


Can we not see them because he's lion down?
1 Like #5
he is lovely ,looks like he has made himself at home already

Edited By: missismop on Feb 17, 2011 21:36
1 Like #6
massmail666
mongrel ***jokes**

Should have got a Staffordshire bull terrier though.



He's our mongrel though LOL

Agreed IF I had to choose a pedigree dog it would be staffies everytime, but as we wanted a family pet rather than status symbol then he is just fine for us.
1 Like #7
missismop
he is lovely ,looks like he has made himself at home already

Oh yes, he wont fit in that chair much longer though,another couple of months and he will be needing the sofa!
2 Likes #8
massmail666
how much did he set you back??

A bloomin fortune,






Zero pounds and zero pence!
2 Likes #9
massmail666 nice staffy i have a blue staffy male myself
#10
cant go wrong then, your right a weird mix but looks a very nice dog good luck :)

harlzter
massmail666
how much did he set you back??

A bloomin fortune,






Zero pounds and zero pence!


Edited By: Dub1 on Feb 17, 2011 21:41
5 Likes #11
Are staffies status symbols? round here all the out of work thugs have them, not much status.
#12
He looks like he's made himself at home already :)
1 Like #13
Cute, definitely got Rottweiler legs/paws :)
#14
aww cute wat u named him ?
#15
im geussing he means how there used now as a symbol of being hard etc rather then loving them for the breed and the great dog they are
Randa1
Are staffies status symbols? round here all the out of work thugs have them, not much status.
1 Like #16
Aww he's lovely, good luck with him.
#17
Dub1
im geussing he means how there used now as a symbol of being hard etc rather then loving them for the breed and the great dog they are
Randa1
Are staffies status symbols? round here all the out of work thugs have them, not much status.


Unfortunately its those types give staffs a bad name when as a rule they are a sweet natured breed.
#18
awww bless him Harltzer............whats his name??

Edited By: bitseylango on Feb 17, 2011 22:02
#19
so cute
its not inbreeding mixing different breeds
#20
bitseylango
awww bless him Harltzer............whats his name??


Ooops missed that out, its Storm (but I doubt he will fit in a Tea cup)
#21
babyxxxxx
so cute
its not inbreeding mixing different breeds


I agree and problems occur when breeds are bred too finely to get the "perfect" example.
#22
inbreeding is mother to son or father to daughter or sibling to sibling, think its to keep good lines and quailtys in the dogs, i dont agree with it, but i didnt think it was mixing breeds, sorry if i sounded blunt in what i said, i dont know everything about breeding but when ive been told or have read up about inbreeding this is what ive taken it to mean
1 Like #23
He is gorgeous, I can really see the border terrier in the face and fur, then the back leg is very Alsatian and a bit of mastiff at the muzzle.
His back legs look so long and his front legs shorter, is his back horizontal when he is standing or does he slope down?
A handsome chap, and they say that dogs look like their owners, is it true in this case?
2 Likes #24
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7569064.stm

Inbreeding is mixing the same bloodlines within a particular breed which can lead to genetic problems.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=safari&defl=en&q=define:inbreeding&sa=X&ei=J6RdTZ_OO4Wg8QPOnM3MCg&ved=0CBkQkAE

Interbreeding is breeding from different breeds to try and achieve the best characteristics of both breeds. Often this is don for working purposes and can help to eradicate genetic problems caused by inbreeding as the stronger gene for a given characteristic will be dominant. For example, a lurcher is. Greyhound crossed with another breed (often a collie) with the aim of getting a fast, intelligent, trainable dog. Mother nature will usually favour the healthier genes given the option; inbreeding robs her of the option, interbreeding gives her more options

The bulldog is n example of inbreeding as dogs from the same breed have been mated to accentuate particular characteristics. This has resulted in a dog that cannot be born naturally. Ops dog is a cross breed or interbreed and as there is such a wide gene pool for mother nature topickfrom then the best, healthiest genes will dominate so can often result in a healthier dog




Edited By: stewby on Feb 17, 2011 22:52: M
1 Like #25
Awww he is lovely :) I want one! lol
#26
Lulu'sMammy
babyxxxxx
inbreeding is mother to son or father to daughter or sibling to sibling, think its to keep good lines and quailtys in the dogs, i dont agree with it, but i didnt think it was mixing breeds, sorry if i sounded blunt in what i said, i dont know everything about breeding but when ive been told or have read up about inbreeding this is what ive taken it to mean
Thats interbreeding, its also called cross breeding where a bit of everything is shot into the making. Although very very cute, i think too much messing about with nature is resulting in some very messed up specimens. Look at the British bulldog for one of the best man caused cock ups.
i must be mixed up then lol! i thought interbredding was to cross breed, my mistake.
I know what you mean, i really wanted a british bulldog but after seeing that program and seeing how they used to look and now they have breathing problems, its really sad, can't remember what the show was called but there was a woman getting puppy ridgebacks put down because they wernt perfect.
#27
babyxxxxx
Lulu'sMammy
babyxxxxx
inbreeding is mother to son or father to daughter or sibling to sibling, think its to keep good lines and quailtys in the dogs, i dont agree with it, but i didnt think it was mixing breeds, sorry if i sounded blunt in what i said, i dont know everything about breeding but when ive been told or have read up about inbreeding this is what ive taken it to mean
Thats interbreeding, its also called cross breeding where a bit of everything is shot into the making. Although very very cute, i think too much messing about with nature is resulting in some very messed up specimens. Look at the British bulldog for one of the best man caused cock ups.
i must be mixed up then lol! i thought interbredding was to cross breed, my mistake.I know what you mean, i really wanted a british bulldog but after seeing that program and seeing how they used to look and now they have breathing problems, its really sad, can't remember what the show was called but there was a woman getting puppy ridgebacks put down because they wernt perfect.

Ive deleted my comment as what you were saying is right. I was wording myself wrongly, although knew exactly what i was trying to say, and was that eager to reword what i wanted to put im sat with all my old study books trying to find out which was the right way round lol (i can be forgiven, i knew the meaning, just the wrong way round for the words!) Can you believe i passed my exams and have been working in the animal profession for 12 years muwahahahah. Sorry mate.
#28
Lulu'sMammy
babyxxxxx
Lulu'sMammy
babyxxxxx
inbreeding is mother to son or father to daughter or sibling to sibling, think its to keep good lines and quailtys in the dogs, i dont agree with it, but i didnt think it was mixing breeds, sorry if i sounded blunt in what i said, i dont know everything about breeding but when ive been told or have read up about inbreeding this is what ive taken it to mean
Thats interbreeding, its also called cross breeding where a bit of everything is shot into the making. Although very very cute, i think too much messing about with nature is resulting in some very messed up specimens. Look at the British bulldog for one of the best man caused cock ups.
i must be mixed up then lol! i thought interbredding was to cross breed, my mistake.I know what you mean, i really wanted a british bulldog but after seeing that program and seeing how they used to look and now they have breathing problems, its really sad, can't remember what the show was called but there was a woman getting puppy ridgebacks put down because they wernt perfect.


Ive deleted my comment as what you were saying is right. I was wording myself wrongly, although knew exactly what i was trying to say, and was that eager to reword what i wanted to put im sat with all my old study books trying to find out which was the right way round lol (i can be forgiven, i knew the meaning, just the wrong way round for the words!) Can you believe i passed my exams and have been working in the animal profession for 12 years muwahahahah. Sorry mate.


Lol, thought you might have got your terminology mixed up. Some examples of inbreeding are horrible. We have a pedigree mini schnauzer who was bred for health and not to conform to breed standard but some of the comment on the schnauzer forums are crazy. People actually Sellotape their dogs ears down as stick up too much!
#29
harlzter
bitseylango
awww bless him Harltzer............whats his name??


Ooops missed that out, its Storm (but I doubt he will fit in a Tea cup)


lovely name one of ours is called storm
#30
stewby
Lulu'sMammy
babyxxxxx
Lulu'sMammy
babyxxxxx
inbreeding is mother to son or father to daughter or sibling to sibling, think its to keep good lines and quailtys in the dogs, i dont agree with it, but i didnt think it was mixing breeds, sorry if i sounded blunt in what i said, i dont know everything about breeding but when ive been told or have read up about inbreeding this is what ive taken it to mean
Thats interbreeding, its also called cross breeding where a bit of everything is shot into the making. Although very very cute, i think too much messing about with nature is resulting in some very messed up specimens. Look at the British bulldog for one of the best man caused cock ups.
i must be mixed up then lol! i thought interbredding was to cross breed, my mistake.I know what you mean, i really wanted a british bulldog but after seeing that program and seeing how they used to look and now they have breathing problems, its really sad, can't remember what the show was called but there was a woman getting puppy ridgebacks put down because they wernt perfect.
Ive deleted my comment as what you were saying is right. I was wording myself wrongly, although knew exactly what i was trying to say, and was that eager to reword what i wanted to put im sat with all my old study books trying to find out which was the right way round lol (i can be forgiven, i knew the meaning, just the wrong way round for the words!) Can you believe i passed my exams and have been working in the animal profession for 12 years muwahahahah. Sorry mate.
Lol, thought you might have got your terminology mixed up. Some examples of inbreeding are horrible. We have a pedigree mini schnauzer who was bred for health and not to conform to breed standard but some of the comment on the schnauzer forums are crazy. People actually Sellotape their dogs ears down as stick up too much!

Stewby, i wont tell you my profession lol!, all for the sake of a "ter" in a word...ive even written on my notes (they are quite a few years old) inbred, father sleeping with daughter to remind me, guess it didnt work! Anyway what i said still stands far too much INTERbreeding going on in the doggy world now! ;)
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What makes me laughar seen pups for sale called cockerpoos or sprockers like people ave invented new breeds of dog and charge big money or them. A mongrel is a mongrel even if some are very good looking mongrels like the ops dog. Nothing wrong with a mongrel but breeders shouldn't try and make out is anything but that
1 Like #32
stewby
What makes me laughar seen pups for sale called cockerpoos or sprockers like people ave invented new breeds of dog and charge big money or them. A mongrel is a mongrel even if some are very good looking mongrels like the ops dog. Nothing wrong with a mongrel but breeders shouldn't try and make out is anything but that


What about a Labradoodle?
banned 1 Like #33
stewby
What makes me laughar seen pups for sale called cockerpoos or sprockers like people ave invented new breeds of dog and charge big money or them. A mongrel is a mongrel even if some are very good looking mongrels like the ops dog. Nothing wrong with a mongrel but breeders shouldn't try and make out is anything but that


Many new breeds are now KC registered though.

Labradoodles are nice!

http://www.muamat.com/reviews/tfiles/serve/2279/small
#34
Lulu'sMammy
Couldn't agree more.
Labradoodles are lush, and are now working Guide dogs too :)



They don't shed hair so that's ideal.
But...back to Storm...he's lovely, I'd love another dog but no can do unfortunately :(
#35
guv
stewby
What makes me laughar seen pups for sale called cockerpoos or sprockers like people ave invented new breeds of dog and charge big money or them. A mongrel is a mongrel even if some are very good looking mongrels like the ops dog. Nothing wrong with a mongrel but breeders shouldn't try and make out is anything but that


Many new breeds are now KC registered though.

Labradoodles are nice!

http://www.muamat.com/reviews/tfiles/serve/2279/small


Very nice dogs. Which cross breeds are now kc registered? I'm not questioning if they are just intrigued as to which breeds kc have givenbreed standard or whatever to. Think labradooles started the trend. Some do shed as my friends does, perhaps f1s are less likely to shed. Think mother nature forgets which breed she should be pickingeach characteristic from sometimes

Edited By: stewby on Feb 17, 2011 23:17
1 Like #36
Why were my comments deleted???? and my quoting ain't working.

SS, they still can shed (labrador side of them) but nowhere near as much. A full poodle doesn't hardly shed so your right there, which is why alot of allergy suffers have them.

Edited By: Lulu'sMammy on Feb 17, 2011 23:21
1 Like #37
Op, imagine if storm gets the digging urge from the terrier in him, Borders especially like a good dig. You are going to have some serious craters with those paws lol
banned#38
stewby


Very nice dogs. Which cross breeds are now kc registered? I'm not questioning if they are just intrigued as to which breeds kc have givenbreed standard or whatever to.


I just had a check... seems they are not yet recognised, but it really wont be long until they are. (Obviously as you said, a poodle dogging a labrador is a mongrel!) But to be fair, the temperment of a labrador and the fur of a poodle is a great mix for a mongrel!

I remember when I got our Golden Retriever. The owners only let us buy her if we agreed to show! I was like.. WTF.. she's a pet! But we did take her a few times... she was more interested in playing, so we gave that up!
#39
guv
stewby


Very nice dogs. Which cross breeds are now kc registered? I'm not questioning if they are just intrigued as to which breeds kc have givenbreed standard or whatever to.


I just had a check... seems they are not yet recognised, but it really wont be long until they are. (Obviously as you said, a poodle dogging a labrador is a mongrel!) But to be fair, the temperment of a labrador and the fur of a poodle is a great mix for a mongrel!

I remember when I got our Golden Retriever. The owners only let us buy her if we agreed to show! I was like.. WTF.. she's a pet! But we did take her a few times... she was more interested in playing, so we gave that up!


When we got our lab we were told by the breeder she had to be trained as a gun dog, fine as that was the intention, but I thought it was cheeky of the breeder, they didn't want to see our home or know much about us but they wanted to know the dog would be worked.

I wonder with cross breeds like labradoodles if it depends on which breed is the mother and which is the father as to which side is more dominant.
#40
Think what might stop a labradoodle being kc recognised is that to get the best of both breeds you have to get an f1, first generation, I think. Therefore you would always need to breed using a lab and a poodle, so not sure they could ever be classified as a breed in their own right. But in reality all breeds started out as cross breeds so you never know I suppose.

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