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9y, 10m agoPosted 9 years, 10 months ago
I'm not mad or even going mad.
I have taken pictures of the credit card page.:-

You will see what I mean, NO padlock (Security Certificate)
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/DINOSTEVEUS/DSCF0061.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/DINOSTEVEUS/DSCF0056.jpg
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9y, 10m agoPosted 9 years, 10 months ago
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#1
Matt, anybody.
#2
dont touch it with a barge pole!
#3
Antj87
dont touch it with a barge pole!

I didn't.
Nobody believed me about this site being insecure.
#4
Right-click next to CC details and choose Properties. Does it says anything about encryption?
#5
Kommunist
Right-click next to CC details and choose Properties. Does it says anything about encryption?


Shopping cart Experts - CCNow Online Credit Card Processing and Merchant Account

HyperText Transfer Protocol with Privacy

TLS 1.0, RC4 with 128 bit encryption (High); RSA with 1024 bit exchange

https://www.ccnow.com/cgi-local/checkout.cgi

01/04/2007

01/04/2007
#6
And the security certificate.
Why no padlock or anything else??
[admin]#7
It's not in a frame?
#8
Looks like they are using secure stylesheet, it might confuse browser. It might be a frame too.
#9
Admin
It's not in a frame?

NO.
I can't print screen so I took some pics.
#10
Am I right to be very concerned?
The last time I had no 'padlock' on a payment page my credit card was compromised big time.
#11
What can I say? My rule #1 of internet shopping is: if you have even slightest suspicion that site might be dodgy - don't use it even if prices are better than anywhere else.
#12
Kommunist
What can I say? My rule #1 of internet shopping is: if you have even slightest suspicion that site might be dodgy - don't use it even if prices are better than anywhere else.

I agree but other posters said they had bought from this site.
Free delivery from the US and Dongle for just under £4. Ummmm, made me wonder. That's why I put false details in to check them out.
[admin]#13
dinosteveus
NO.
I can't print screen so I took some pics.


Screenshot doesn't help. The area where you enter the details should be in a frame that is https and you can't see that on a screenshot. Looking at the url in the properties should answer that question though as Kommunist brought up.
#14
A screenshot would have shown the lack of Security (Padlock). In my eyes anyway.
[SIZE=2]I found this is very interesting:-[/SIZE]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Https
#15
Hey dino!

I am trying to look at the site now. It's gone down rofl!

From my poking around it seemed secure. When it comes up, i'll take a look again.

I've ordered from them many times, and they've been great. I've always used paypal (makes sense to, as ledshoppe.com absorb currency conversion charges etc). Using paypal means you're going secure anyway.

Thought I might mention also that it has 'changed' recently, and that rather than being in a frame (at least I think it's in a frame?), it was a pop up, with a blatant HTTPS in the URL bar.

You're right though. It's important (for the company) that a padlock is 'shown' or whatever, as for those who don't do the poking around (and also don't know how to) may be put off, as it's pretty standard for people to look out for such security!

PS. I see the 'Page Source' in your screenshots :thumbsup:
#16
Ok the site is back up.

I have taken a look. I'm using Firefox, and can confirm it uses Frames!

The Left frame is the LED Shoppe site, with the URL box of your browser showing the LEDShoppe URL.

Those who have firefox, right click the CCNow page, select 'This Frame >' and select 'View Frame Source'. You can see that the title is a "source:https://ccnow.com/etc/blahblah", with a HTTPS protocol. (see shot!). You can even hit Frame Info, and can see that the page address is also secured!

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9213/httpssourcemu1.th.jpg

So I would conclude it's safe to buy. It's just the way frames are I guess. I think they do it like this, to their advantage, so they keep the navigation bar on the side in hope of getting another sale once payment is complete!

Further thoughts and discussion --------
#17
[SIZE=2]Thanks Matt,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]I and I guess a lot of others feel better if the 'padlock' was used. I don't feel comfortable having to right click or mess about looking 'in depth' to see if a site is safe and secure. If they can't use the 'padlock,' which I know and understand, then I can't be bothered to give them my money.[/SIZE]
#18
I see!

Agreed yeah - if they cannot easily gain their customers confidence, then they will not succeed.

I have bought many items in the past from them no problem. The site has just been updated, and the use of frames for them is something new.

Green light to buy then, to those who trust my word :p
#19
MattC
I see!

Agreed yeah - if they cannot easily gain their customers confidence, then they will not succeed.

I have bought many items in the past from them no problem. The site has just been updated, and the use of frames for them is something new.

Green light to buy then, to those who trust my word :p


I trust you.
If you go through Paypal you are pretty safe with their added protection. Oooops, Paypal and 'safe' in the same sentence, never again. LOL.:whistling:

Thanks for 'checking' them out Matt :thumbsup:
#20
Hey no problem.

Perhaps that thread duckmagic removed will place it back? Maybe not..

Good old Dino making sure members are safe, in ebay and everything else :thumbsup: :)
#21
I think it was MikeT that removed the post.
#22
MattC.

I think you replied on the original thread that this company is Hong Kong based and not U.S. based.

Can you confirm this ?
#23
Yep it's HK Based hottoshop.

Thanks Dino, it probably was MikeT - Sorry Duckmagic!
[admin]#24
I know why sites do this in frames but it is such a bad idea for the reasons pointed out by this thread. The average internet user is not going to think or know how to check in frames to see if the page is actually secure, they are just going to see the lack of padlock and leave. Not a smart idea on the part of the merchant.

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