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It's that time of the year again- Operation Christmas Child is coming up. 1000s of people across the UK will be creating their own shoebox full of Christmas presents to send to countries where childre… Read More
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9m, 3w agoPosted 9 months, 3 weeks ago
It's that time of the year again- Operation Christmas Child is coming up. 1000s of people across the UK will be creating their own shoebox full of Christmas presents to send to countries where children (aged 2-14) would otherwise not receive anything. The presents will be delivered between Nov and March.

It's great to hear so many people supporting different local/ national/ international shoebox and other schemes.

I've still not managed to find a way of posting up on here photographs of the boxes I've made up. Contrary to the 'cheap tat' which it has been labelled, there are some absolute bargains on stationary and sanitary items out there at the moment.

Happy gifting.
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9m, 3w agoPosted 9 months, 3 weeks ago
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brendanhickey
Snakeyes646
brendanhickey
I think you should leave other cultures alone and stop interfering. people that have never had Christmas will never miss it. I think it's a bit racists to go to other countries and hand cheap toys. most of which are probably made in sweatshops...
it also has a native effect on Africa which is actually a very wealthy continent with a booming middle class but suffers lack of foreign investment because of the perception it's all poor and needs aid which isn't true. better spent on poor kids in the west that have nothing and grow up in a massive consumerist country always been left out. than on a culture where Christmas is foreign.
Racist? What the heck? To give any child a magical day is worth anything, if it's £8 odd then that's amazing, giving a child 1 Christmas is better than a child having no Christmas ever, cannot understand how the race card was used here....
racists is the wrong word to use. how we celebrate Christmas in the uk is massively effected by the long dark winter. in Australia they normally have a bbq on Christmas day and it's not nearly as big as it is in the uk because it's in the middle of summer for them and they don't need cheering up. the western pagan style of Christmas with a winter feast and presents. will not be in the same in Africa. of course the kids will love a gift but the this no child should go without is not the same as christmas is foreign to them in the way Britain celebrates it and to export our tradition to Africa when they have there own is what I getting at. I used totally the wrong word.
A bit like the "Do they know it's Christmas time at all?" line from that God awful Bandaid song. Why would they know?

I'm not saying don't donate. I think it's a good idea and one of my friends helps organise the shoeboxes each year but the Christmas theme is there to tug on your heart strings. Pretty sure these kids would appreciate clean water, food, clothing and medicine much more than some crappy toy you've bought from B&Ms.
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brendanhickey
I think you should leave other cultures alone and stop interfering. people that have never had Christmas will never miss it. I think it's a bit racists to go to other countries and hand cheap toys. most of which are probably made in sweatshops...
it also has a native effect on Africa which is actually a very wealthy continent with a booming middle class but suffers lack of foreign investment because of the perception it's all poor and needs aid which isn't true. better spent on poor kids in the west that have nothing and grow up in a massive consumerist country always been left out. than on a culture where Christmas is foreign.

That makes no sense at all. What's wrong with giving a child who has nothing a little bit of enjoyment? Even if it only lasts for a short period of time. Also, it may seem like a Christmas present to us, bit if the recipient knows nothing of Christmas then it'll just be a nice surprise, nothing more. The main reason this event takes place around Christmas is because during the Xmas period people are generally more giving/generous. If it took place at some random point during the year, there probably wouldn't be as many people taking part.

I did this for the first time last year after someone on Misc mentioned it. Will definitely be taking part again this year.

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why only £8.91?
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miles136
why only £8.91?



Example shoebox for girl aged 2-4
Soft toy- cat 100 Tesco
Animal bath puff 59 Home Bargains
Pencil case 49 Aldi
Toothpaste- childrens 39 Home Bargains
Water pistol 25 Wilkinsons
Soap 25 Home Bargains
Keyring 19 Home Bargains
Toothbrush 10 Wilkinsons
Skipping rope 25 Wilkinsons
Crayons 32 WH Smiths
Princess game 10 Wilkinsons
Princess badges 10 Wilkinsons
Colouring pencils and sharpener 69 Home Bargains
Princess tiara 10 Wilkinsons
Chalks 35 WH Smiths
Purse 100 Claires Accessories
Music kit 50 Wilkinsons
Notebook 39 Home Bargains
Mints 50 Home Bargains
Pink flowers 25 Wilkinsons
Sunhat 100 Claires Accessories

Total cost: £8.81


Apologies, my original posts appear to have been removed. They showed examples of how you can create a 'cheap' shoebox to show that you can be generous without breaking the bank.
#3
but why £8.91?

and who is collecting these?
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miles136
but why £8.91?
and who is collecting these?

The shoe boxes are collected by the charity Operation Christmas Child. It is national and there are lots of collection points available. For more information visit:
https://www.samaritans-purse.org.uk/what-we-do/operation-christmas-child/

There's no set amount of money for spending on the box. I've just written this post to demonstrate to people that it doesn't have to be expensive. You can be creative by shopping in cheaper stores and looking out for bargains.
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o my word this is fantastic and for £3 you can see where your box goes

why not try and get misc involved in this?

you need to make a new thread or change the title

"MISC shoe box appeal"
get ppl to share ideas of what to put in as you have, then let us know how many boxs they have done, count up at the end to see what you have achieved

There are loads on here that would do this

LETS DO IT
#6
pm me if you want
#7
I think you should leave other cultures alone and stop interfering. people that have never had Christmas will never miss it. I think it's a bit racists to go to other countries and hand cheap toys. most of which are probably made in sweatshops...
it also has a native effect on Africa which is actually a very wealthy continent with a booming middle class but suffers lack of foreign investment because of the perception it's all poor and needs aid which isn't true. better spent on poor kids in the west that have nothing and grow up in a massive consumerist country always been left out. than on a culture where Christmas is foreign.
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brendanhickey
I think you should leave other cultures alone and stop interfering. people that have never had Christmas will never miss it. I think it's a bit racists to go to other countries and hand cheap toys. most of which are probably made in sweatshops...
it also has a native effect on Africa which is actually a very wealthy continent with a booming middle class but suffers lack of foreign investment because of the perception it's all poor and needs aid which isn't true. better spent on poor kids in the west that have nothing and grow up in a massive consumerist country always been left out. than on a culture where Christmas is foreign.


Racist? What the heck? To give any child a magical day is worth anything, if it's £8 odd then that's amazing, giving a child 1 Christmas is better than a child having no Christmas ever, cannot understand how the race card was used here....
#9
brendanhickey
I think you should leave other cultures alone and stop interfering. people that have never had Christmas will never miss it. I think it's a bit racists to go to other countries and hand cheap toys. most of which are probably made in sweatshops...
it also has a native effect on Africa which is actually a very wealthy continent with a booming middle class but suffers lack of foreign investment because of the perception it's all poor and needs aid which isn't true. better spent on poor kids in the west that have nothing and grow up in a massive consumerist country always been left out. than on a culture where Christmas is foreign.


You make a very good point - cheap tat is cheap tat too. Spose the other alternative is to take the £8.91 and send £4.46 to a trusted charity working with the poor in eg. Africa and send 4.45 to St Vincent De Paul to spend on the needy closer to home.
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brendanhickey
I think you should leave other cultures alone and stop interfering. people that have never had Christmas will never miss it. I think it's a bit racists to go to other countries and hand cheap toys. most of which are probably made in sweatshops...
it also has a native effect on Africa which is actually a very wealthy continent with a booming middle class but suffers lack of foreign investment because of the perception it's all poor and needs aid which isn't true. better spent on poor kids in the west that have nothing and grow up in a massive consumerist country always been left out. than on a culture where Christmas is foreign.


If you prefer to donate to services in the west helping disadvantaged children to have fun that otherwise might be left out, then I can recommend Country Holidays for Inner City Kids.

They provide a letter and present in December for all the children who have attended their holidays throughout the year and run special holidays over this period for those who otherwise wouldn't get an opportunity to celebrate. I've linked an article below describing some of the great work they did last year. I'm sure they will soon be putting up links to their plans over Christmas for 2016 and how you can help donate.

http://chicks.org.uk/blog/article/25/a-special-christmas-at-chicks

In relation to whether the items are just 'cheap tat,' I guess that's a personal opinion. Personally, I go on the basis that I wouldn't send anything that I wouldn't be happy to give my family. Obviously, this site exists in part because 'cheap' doesn't necessarily mean 'tat'- it often means a bargain.

Edited By: meryl1 on Sep 25, 2016 05:57
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brendanhickey
I think you should leave other cultures alone and stop interfering. people that have never had Christmas will never miss it. I think it's a bit racists to go to other countries and hand cheap toys. most of which are probably made in sweatshops...
it also has a native effect on Africa which is actually a very wealthy continent with a booming middle class but suffers lack of foreign investment because of the perception it's all poor and needs aid which isn't true. better spent on poor kids in the west that have nothing and grow up in a massive consumerist country always been left out. than on a culture where Christmas is foreign.


oh dear Africa's issue is that it's actually mainly middle class and has a bad image, check the Government corruption instead to get a clearer picture.
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The St Vincent de Paul Society (or as it is often known - the SVP) is an international Christian voluntary organisation dedicated to tackling poverty and disadvantage by providing practical assistance to those in need – irrespective of ideology, faith, ethnicity, age or gender. The Society is a lay organisation initially formed in Paris in 1833 by Blessed Frédéric Ozanam and his companions, and active in England & Wales since 1844. Placed under the Patronage of St Vincent de Paul, it is inspired by his thinking and works. It seeks, in the spirit of justice and charity, to help those who are suffering poverty in whatever form. - See more at: http://svp.org.uk/#sthash.o3BFXAfX.dpuf
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memmmememe
The St Vincent de Paul Society (or as it is often known - the SVP) is an international Christian voluntary organisation dedicated to tackling poverty and disadvantage by providing practical assistance to those in need – irrespective of ideology, faith, ethnicity, age or gender. The Society is a lay organisation initially formed in Paris in 1833 by Blessed Frédéric Ozanam and his companions, and active in England & Wales since 1844. Placed under the Patronage of St Vincent de Paul, it is inspired by his thinking and works. It seeks, in the spirit of justice and charity, to help those who are suffering poverty in whatever form. - See more at: http://svp.org.uk/#sthash.o3BFXAfX.dpuf

Great, I'm really pleased you support and promote such an inspiring charity.
1 Like #14
miles136
o my word this is fantastic and for £3 you can see where your box goes

why not try and get misc involved in this?

you need to make a new thread or change the title

"MISC shoe box appeal"
get ppl to share ideas of what to put in as you have, then let us know how many boxs they have done, count up at the end to see what you have achieved

There are loads on here that would do this

LETS DO IT


Thank you so much for your encouragement. I'm new to posting on HUKD. I'm not sure if I posted this message in Misc, or if it has since been moved. If you can help me by posting this info where it's most useful I'd be very appreciative. Thanks.
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Snakeyes646
brendanhickey
I think you should leave other cultures alone and stop interfering. people that have never had Christmas will never miss it. I think it's a bit racists to go to other countries and hand cheap toys. most of which are probably made in sweatshops...
it also has a native effect on Africa which is actually a very wealthy continent with a booming middle class but suffers lack of foreign investment because of the perception it's all poor and needs aid which isn't true. better spent on poor kids in the west that have nothing and grow up in a massive consumerist country always been left out. than on a culture where Christmas is foreign.


Racist? What the heck? To give any child a magical day is worth anything, if it's £8 odd then that's amazing, giving a child 1 Christmas is better than a child having no Christmas ever, cannot understand how the race card was used here....


racists is the wrong word to use. how we celebrate Christmas in the uk is massively effected by the long dark winter. in Australia they normally have a bbq on Christmas day and it's not nearly as big as it is in the uk because it's in the middle of summer for them and they don't need cheering up. the western pagan style of Christmas with a winter feast and presents. will not be in the same in Africa. of course the kids will love a gift but the this no child should go without is not the same as christmas is foreign to them in the way Britain celebrates it and to export our tradition to Africa when they have there own is what I getting at. I used totally the wrong word.
#16
sorry I might have comment twice I have connection problem not sure if it's posted or not
#17
Can fill them with anything? I looked at one appeal last year and it was really strick like certain brands etc. I remember in school there was a wide range of things you could send.
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brendanhickey
Snakeyes646
brendanhickey
I think you should leave other cultures alone and stop interfering. people that have never had Christmas will never miss it. I think it's a bit racists to go to other countries and hand cheap toys. most of which are probably made in sweatshops...
it also has a native effect on Africa which is actually a very wealthy continent with a booming middle class but suffers lack of foreign investment because of the perception it's all poor and needs aid which isn't true. better spent on poor kids in the west that have nothing and grow up in a massive consumerist country always been left out. than on a culture where Christmas is foreign.
Racist? What the heck? To give any child a magical day is worth anything, if it's £8 odd then that's amazing, giving a child 1 Christmas is better than a child having no Christmas ever, cannot understand how the race card was used here....
racists is the wrong word to use. how we celebrate Christmas in the uk is massively effected by the long dark winter. in Australia they normally have a bbq on Christmas day and it's not nearly as big as it is in the uk because it's in the middle of summer for them and they don't need cheering up. the western pagan style of Christmas with a winter feast and presents. will not be in the same in Africa. of course the kids will love a gift but the this no child should go without is not the same as christmas is foreign to them in the way Britain celebrates it and to export our tradition to Africa when they have there own is what I getting at. I used totally the wrong word.
A bit like the "Do they know it's Christmas time at all?" line from that God awful Bandaid song. Why would they know?

I'm not saying don't donate. I think it's a good idea and one of my friends helps organise the shoeboxes each year but the Christmas theme is there to tug on your heart strings. Pretty sure these kids would appreciate clean water, food, clothing and medicine much more than some crappy toy you've bought from B&Ms.
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Very generous of you OP nice one(no really)
have to say the whole religious aspect would put me off here
but I am sure there are ones that don't here for instants is one that is run in South Africa for south Africans
http://santashoebox.org.za/
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stuarthanley
brendanhickey
Snakeyes646
brendanhickey
I think you should leave other cultures alone and stop interfering. people that have never had Christmas will never miss it. I think it's a bit racists to go to other countries and hand cheap toys. most of which are probably made in sweatshops...
it also has a native effect on Africa which is actually a very wealthy continent with a booming middle class but suffers lack of foreign investment because of the perception it's all poor and needs aid which isn't true. better spent on poor kids in the west that have nothing and grow up in a massive consumerist country always been left out. than on a culture where Christmas is foreign.
Racist? What the heck? To give any child a magical day is worth anything, if it's £8 odd then that's amazing, giving a child 1 Christmas is better than a child having no Christmas ever, cannot understand how the race card was used here....
racists is the wrong word to use. how we celebrate Christmas in the uk is massively effected by the long dark winter. in Australia they normally have a bbq on Christmas day and it's not nearly as big as it is in the uk because it's in the middle of summer for them and they don't need cheering up. the western pagan style of Christmas with a winter feast and presents. will not be in the same in Africa. of course the kids will love a gift but the this no child should go without is not the same as christmas is foreign to them in the way Britain celebrates it and to export our tradition to Africa when they have there own is what I getting at. I used totally the wrong word.
A bit like the "Do they know it's Christmas time at all?" line from that God awful Bandaid song. Why would they know? I'm not saying don't donate. I think it's a good idea and one of my friends helps organise the shoeboxes each year but the Christmas theme is there to tug on your heart strings. Pretty sure these kids would appreciate clean water, food, clothing and medicine much more than some crappy toy you've bought from B&Ms.

Here you go

This was the more memorable song/video for me


Edited By: cchopps on Sep 25, 2016 08:05: Update
banned#21
It's September man.
3 Likes #22
If christians are worried about child poverty in the third world they would be better off getting into the 21st century and start encouraging birth control for their followers rather than the medieval stance they take today.
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We do this in my village and have been able to send hundreds of boxes each year. It doesn't have to be new items either, just good quality. We usually put in colouring books or notepads with pencils, soap/flannel, some sweets, hat/scarf/gloves, some jewellery or hair scrunchies for girls and then a toy. We aren't allowed to put anything religious or war related in and the boxes do get checked before they are sent to the children. Sometimes items are added or removed if boxes are too full or empty.
Each child only gets one box in their lifetime and they usually share it with brothers and sisters.
#24
I am confused it says you can add wrapped sweets but then goes on to say no food items.
#25
coys67
If christians are worried about child poverty in the third world they would be better off getting into the 21st century and start encouraging birth control for their followers rather than the medieval stance they take today.

You be thinking of Catholics.
#26
We export a lot of our crap to Africa so why not send some more?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/23/01/27D5FE3800000578-3049457-Polluted_Millions_of_tonnes_of_the_world_s_e_waste_ends_up_in_Af-a-43_1429747413588.jpg
banned#27
Error440
coys67
If christians are worried about child poverty in the third world they would be better off getting into the 21st century and start encouraging birth control for their followers rather than the medieval stance they take today.
You be thinking of Catholics.

And then you would need to be thinking South America. Catholics in Africa are nearly always a minority where the majority would nearly always have a higher birth rate. Birth rates will always be difficult to interpret though as the infant mortality rate will be higher too.
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I have to agree with the majority in this thread. Bad/corrupt governments, over breeding and religion. Yes it's not the kids fault they didn't ask to be born but if we keep sending donations whether by governments or by charity most will never think or be thankful.

Some of those gifts won't even get to those very needy kids - corrupt gangs will filter through the tuff you send - take out what can be sold on and give the rest back to the kids.

Hey I'm all for charity - there's 1000's of our own kids with no proper parents who won't experience a family never mind presents and there's plenty of kids/families devastated by torrential rain/floods, earth quakes and the like.

If I knew the money I invested went directly to an individual in need the money would be there without question. I've seen the odd story / video and often thought "Damn if I could find their name and get in contact here's £50 to get you back onto some normality" then for me personally I'd be happier in the knowledge I'd helped but I refuse to give to charities, especially those who take a percentage and pay top whack for management, and not knowing where my donation has gone.
#29
I had though being charitable is good by way of gifts. But I think now more urgent is to set up infrastructure and industry development for the poor people so that they help themselves. Giving gift is a perishable/consummable but building jobs is investment and gets returns for further development and so on.
#30
philphil61
I have to agree with the majority in this thread. Bad/corrupt governments, over breeding and religion. Yes it's not the kids fault they didn't ask to be born but if we keep sending donations whether by governments or by charity most will never think or be thankful.
Some of those gifts won't even get to those very needy kids - corrupt gangs will filter through the tuff you send - take out what can be sold on and give the rest back to the kids.
Hey I'm all for charity - there's 1000's of our own kids with no proper parents who won't experience a family never mind presents and there's plenty of kids/families devastated by torrential rain/floods, earth quakes and the like.
If I knew the money I invested went directly to an individual in need the money would be there without question. I've seen the odd story / video and often thought "Damn if I could find their name and get in contact here's £50 to get you back onto some normality" then for me personally I'd be happier in the knowledge I'd helped but I refuse to give to charities, especially those who take a percentage and pay top whack for management, and not knowing where my donation has gone.


When you are done being pessimistic about the fate of these gifts perhaps you will consider giving to st mungos who every year at winter do boxes for the homeless that contain things like, sleeping bag, boots, hat, gloves, toiletries that sort of thing, they cost I believe about £60 but you can donate as much or as little as you want and as it is cash rather than material goods they are after its not going to take up more then a few mins of your time to do.

Furthermore to this thread itself, no body diss the samaritans they are a wonderful much needed organisation that needs all the money and volunteers they can get as they offer a great service to those in need of a sympathetic ear and are one of the few places that are free to phone and there outside of normal office hours.
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brendanhickey
I think you should leave other cultures alone and stop interfering. people that have never had Christmas will never miss it. I think it's a bit racists to go to other countries and hand cheap toys. most of which are probably made in sweatshops...
it also has a native effect on Africa which is actually a very wealthy continent with a booming middle class but suffers lack of foreign investment because of the perception it's all poor and needs aid which isn't true. better spent on poor kids in the west that have nothing and grow up in a massive consumerist country always been left out. than on a culture where Christmas is foreign.

That makes no sense at all. What's wrong with giving a child who has nothing a little bit of enjoyment? Even if it only lasts for a short period of time. Also, it may seem like a Christmas present to us, bit if the recipient knows nothing of Christmas then it'll just be a nice surprise, nothing more. The main reason this event takes place around Christmas is because during the Xmas period people are generally more giving/generous. If it took place at some random point during the year, there probably wouldn't be as many people taking part.

I did this for the first time last year after someone on Misc mentioned it. Will definitely be taking part again this year.
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Error440
Furthermore to this thread itself, no body diss the samaritans they are a wonderful much needed organisation that needs all the money and volunteers they can get as they offer a great service to those in need of a sympathetic ear and are one of the few places that are free to phone and there outside of normal office hours.

The organisation linked in this thread collecting Christmas boxes is nothing to do with THE Samaritans who I agree are a fantastic charity.

Samaritan's Purse UK, on the other hand are bible bashers:

Samaritan’s Purse UK is an international relief and development organisation that works through local churches to proclaim and demonstrate the love of God amongst communities in need (in countries across Sub-Saharan Africa, Eastern Europe and Central Asia) across the world.

We believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We’re committed to seeing this Gospel shared in the form of both words (that can change spiritual circumstances) and acts of mercy (that can change physical circumstances).

We choose to work through the local Church – seeing it as God’s chosen instrument to bring hope to a hurting world. That’s why we are committed to working with and through local churches, raising them up to bring lasting hope to people in impoverished communities around our world.

We choose to work in partnership – which is why we are always looking to inspire and encourage others to join with us in being part of God’s global mission. We know that each individual can bring their own talents, gifts and unique contribution – no matter how small – to this great work to which we have been called.

I find the whole idea of giving boxes of cheap tat to needy people while encouraging them to embrace your particular brand of sky fairy very distasteful, particularly where it involves children.


Edited By: ceres on Sep 25, 2016 11:10
1 Like #33
MrScotchBonnet
It's September man.


Xmas before you know it :{
1 Like #34
ceres
Error440
Furthermore to this thread itself, no body diss the samaritans they are a wonderful much needed organisation that needs all the money and volunteers they can get as they offer a great service to those in need of a sympathetic ear and are one of the few places that are free to phone and there outside of normal office hours.

The organisation linked in this thread collecting Christmas boxes is nothing to do with THE Samaritans who I agree are a fantastic charity.

Samaritan's Purse UK, on the other hand are bible bashers:

Samaritan’s Purse UK is an international relief and development organisation that works through local churches to proclaim and demonstrate the love of God amongst communities in need (in countries across Sub-Saharan Africa, Eastern Europe and Central Asia) across the world.

We believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We’re committed to seeing this Gospel shared in the form of both words (that can change spiritual circumstances) and acts of mercy (that can change physical circumstances).

We choose to work through the local Church – seeing it as God’s chosen instrument to bring hope to a hurting world. That’s why we are committed to working with and through local churches, raising them up to bring lasting hope to people in impoverished communities around our world.

We choose to work in partnership – which is why we are always looking to inspire and encourage others to join with us in being part of God’s global mission. We know that each individual can bring their own talents, gifts and unique contribution – no matter how small – to this great work to which we have been called.

I find the whole idea of giving boxes of cheap tat to needy people while encouraging them to embrace your particular brand of sky fairy very distasteful, particularly where it involves children.



Well don't fill boxes with cheap garbage? It's simple, if your gonna do something like this do it right and not half measures, not everyone fills boxes with cheap rubbish.
1 Like #35
I'd rather give presents to the kids in this country.
3 Likes #36
Snakeyes646
Well don't fill boxes with cheap garbage? It's simple, if your gonna do something like this do it right and not half measures, not everyone fills boxes with cheap rubbish.

You missed the point.
1 Like #37
ceres
Error440
Furthermore to this thread itself, no body diss the samaritans they are a wonderful much needed organisation that needs all the money and volunteers they can get as they offer a great service to those in need of a sympathetic ear and are one of the few places that are free to phone and there outside of normal office hours.
The organisation linked in this thread collecting Christmas boxes is nothing to do with THE Samaritans who I agree are a fantastic charity.
Samaritan's Purse UK, on the other hand are bible bashers:
Samaritan’s Purse UK is an international relief and development organisation that works through local churches to proclaim and demonstrate the love of God amongst communities in need (in countries across Sub-Saharan Africa, Eastern Europe and Central Asia) across the world.
We believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We’re committed to seeing this Gospel shared in the form of both words (that can change spiritual circumstances) and acts of mercy (that can change physical circumstances).
We choose to work through the local Church – seeing it as God’s chosen instrument to bring hope to a hurting world. That’s why we are committed to working with and through local churches, raising them up to bring lasting hope to people in impoverished communities around our world.
We choose to work in partnership – which is why we are always looking to inspire and encourage others to join with us in being part of God’s global mission. We know that each individual can bring their own talents, gifts and unique contribution – no matter how small – to this great work to which we have been called.
I find the whole idea of giving boxes of cheap tat to needy people while encouraging them to embrace your particular brand of sky fairy very distasteful, particularly where it involves children.
Was determined not to comment on this thread as it's obviously going to go a bit **** upwards, but I just love your phrase "sky fairy" :) I don't believe in the religious side of things, however I have helped my kids put boxes together for this in the past when they were at primary school. It was good for them to think about other children who didn't have the luxuries that they took for granted. Having been to North Africa 3 times I have seen how a small gesture can make a child's day if they really don't have much at all , and I wasn't even in the poor areas , just slightly off the tourist route( that's not to say there aren't deserving causes in the UK too ), personally I think of this as a way to get a box of small gifts to a child who has nothing. Let's face it , I celebrate Christmas as an atheist , I don't think a shoebox of toys is going to convert the religious beliefs of entire generations. But "sky fairy" , there's a phrase I'll be using again ;)
banned#38
I think some people are over reacting a bit. Too many concerns about the local militia ending up with box loads of 'tat', aiding and abetting the high birth rate in Africa and atheist kids having the Gospel rammed down their throats is a bit OTT. If you've got young kids yourself, it's a good education for them to understand how privileged they are living in the UK if they assist in packing the box. Some people tip their refugee collectors, others their paperboy. If the Christian connection is bothersome, there are alternatives out there. As already mentioned, the Samaritans are hardly hard core anything.

Edited By: cchopps on Sep 25, 2016 13:13
#39
ceres
Snakeyes646
Well don't fill boxes with cheap garbage? It's simple, if your gonna do something like this do it right and not half measures, not everyone fills boxes with cheap rubbish.
You missed the point.
After reading your comment a second time I did indeed miss your point sorry!
#40
I don't like the idea of 'propaganda' being given away with these boxes and won't be doing this
lots of alternatives mind
https://humanism.org.uk/humanism/humanism-today/humanists-doing/good-causes-and-charities/samaritans-purse/

Aquabox sounds good
http://www.aquabox.org/

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