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5y, 10m agoPosted 5 years, 10 months ago
OK so i put my old laptop up FS, which was reset to factory settings (so comes with pre loaded software - which is on recovery partition anyway).
There are a couple of freeware/GOTD programs which are installed and along comes a great DIC.... sorry MODerator who has locked the thread AND made me look as if I am up to no good!

To top it off he has also clearly told me to use the "report" button in the thread to answer some questions, then tears in to me for doing that?!

Then he goes on to imply something sinister is going on in the thread because I have used PM to verify everything is above board!
I have even sent photos against objections he has raised and he or HUKD has not even bothered replying to or unlocking the thread! And because the thread is lock I can't even defend myself openly.

Really guys WTH has happened to HUKD?

Read on for a classic thread backfire <-- Don't waste your time just skip to post number 64 for the summarised version

- boothy

Thanks for the heads-up boothy :)
- deek72

Epic backfire is epic

ASB FTW
- ilovepink

ASB is a great Dictator.
I have also never kissed a girl, I prefer women.

-bargain surfer


Let this be a lesson to you young man,dont try and play with the big boys as you will come a cropper everytime

-boothy

Big Boys are like ants in the world of Men and get stepped on, that is why Men don't play with Big Boys.

-Bargain Surfer


boothy is a failed version of vibeone, ignore him
- DaveLister

who's vibeone?
- DudeyGeeza

How dare you!
- vibeone

Bargain surfer: a wise man once said to me, "think of this site as the same as someones living room", now you are allowed in, u can watch the tele, interact, but fact is, you have to stick to the rules set out, and if they want to dictate to you, then tough titties! Either adheer or bug g er off!
- DudeyGeeza
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5y, 10m agoPosted 5 years, 10 months ago
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banned#1
he's probably jealous because he's using his mothers netbook
#2
Spammed

Only DIC is the OP who is unable to follow site rules

Edited By: boothy on Jan 14, 2011 23:19
#3
boothy
SpammedOnly DIC is the OP who is unable to follow site rules
whatsThePoint
I would of locked it for not providing pic with your name/date on

LOL @ Your superior intellect and observational skills, have you looked at third picture in post 11 here

http://www.hotukdeals.com/for-sale-trade/fs-sony-vaio-vgn-fz11z-bluray-laptop-pics-added/850980/#post10374241
banned 7 Likes #4
boothy seems to get off by misusing the spam button, i don't think he quite understands what it's for
banned#5
Hi Bargain Surfer,

I'm happy to respond here, given the fact that it will not bump the original thread which remains locked at present.

The original thread is very creative indeed, don't you think ?

FS/FT Listing

Given the fact that you've also made this post, leads us to this very recent purchase on ebay, item number 330506850093.

The trading forums are not intended for trader like activities, nor do we expect sellers to be economical with the truth.

For the reasons above, we're now implementing a trading restriction on your account. You are no longer permitted to post within the trading forums, this includes buying as well as selling.
banned 3 Likes #6
aScottishBloke
Hi Bargain Surfer,

I'm happy to respond here, given the fact that it will not bump the original thread which remains locked at present.

The original thread is very creative indeed, don't you think ?

FS/FT Listing

Given the fact that you've also made this post, leads us to this very recent purchase on ebay, item number 330506850093.

The trading forums are not intended for trader like activities, nor do we expect sellers to be economical with the truth.

For the reasons above, we're now implementing a trading restriction on your account. You are no longer permitted to post within the trading forums, this includes buying as well as selling.

are there any rules about people spamming threads just because they don't like them?
#7
Classic HUKD Backfire


If i had known ASB was about i would have refrained from using the spam hammer


Edited By: boothy on Jan 15, 2011 00:27
banned#8
DaveLister

are there any rules about people spamming threads just because they don't like them?


I don't see any evidence of that DaveLister. There's a clear action here by a member to avoid the word filter in the formatting of the title. We're ok with that, it's more a reflection on the other member.

There's been 6+ spam votes attributed to this thread, members obviously have a concern.
banned#9
aScottishBloke
DaveLister

are there any rules about people spamming threads just because they don't like them?


I don't see any evidence of that DaveLister. There's a clear action here by a member to avoid the word filter in the formatting of the title. We're ok with that, it's more a reflection on the other member.

There's been 6+ spam votes attributed to this thread, members obviously have a concern.

well i can't see who spammed it but i'm sure boothy did a few times, just like the same people who kept spamming vibeones thread yesterday, happens way too much
banned#10
aScottishBloke
DaveLister

are there any rules about people spamming threads just because they don't like them?


I don't see any evidence of that DaveLister. There's a clear action here by a member to avoid the word filter in the formatting of the title. We're ok with that, it's more a reflection on the other member.

There's been 6+ spam votes attributed to this thread, members obviously have a concern.


but its not spam, so can any thread you don't like be spammed now?

lol @ OP

EDIT: Are you not allowed to sell any laptop or pc now with windows, unless you can prove resale rights?

Edited By: colinsunderland on Jan 15, 2011 00:37
#11
Hi ASB, fyi I purchased the faulty unit for it's screen and lid. both of which needed replacing on my own VAIO which had been damaged. In case you were not aware the value of the rest of that laptop for spares means I would not be losing out i.e. Bluray drive £40+, RAM £18+, 250gb HDD £20+, Keyboard, base plastics, faulty MB, CPU, Fan, wifi card and PSU etc etc will cover the rest.
Regarding the listing of an iPod in 2009 i don't get it.
As for trader like activities on HUKD, I am sure many members use ebay to buy and sell.
[mod]#12
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3424/3192435737_6d81f4bb88.jpg
#13
colinsunderland
but its not spam, so can any thread you don't like be spammed now?lol @ OP
There's an argument that if the OP has not gone through the 'Contact Us' procedure, then it is spam.

There's another that spamming should be banned so that sufficient rope can be extended.

There's about another 167 arguments for both spamming and not!!
banned#14
i don't see how AScottishBloke can be 100% sure that it's the same laptop he bought on ebay, strong stalking though bringing up a thread about an ipod from over a year ago, also bargain surfer only seems to have 2 items for sale on ebay, hardly a big time ebay seller
#15
As for FS/FT privileges on HUKD, I really couldn't care about them, REALLY. I just thought maybe a HUKD member would benefit from the laptop, you can feel free to pull the entire FS/FT thread or whatever because I have decided to sell privately and pass the proceeds on to charity.
#16
Also judging by ASB stalking techniques I recall getting a pop up some time ago that HUKD is a known phishing site, looks like ASB has proved that to be true!
banned#17
DaveLister

well i can't see who spammed it but i'm sure boothy did a few times, just like the same people who kept spamming vibeones thread yesterday, happens way too much


Votes remain private, however a member can only spam a thread once and it takes multiple members votes to action.


colinsunderland

EDIT: Are you not allowed to sell any laptop or pc now with windows, unless you can prove resale rights?


We will seek further information when we deem a listing to be vague. Having a COA on the laptop that matches the advertised OS wouldn't be an issue. Vague listings with reference to 'extras' will always be worthy of closer examination.

You can't spam threads solely for the reason that you don't like them. However if a member deems that a thread has a ulterior motives, then that's a fair call, given that a report may not have been actioned immediately
.

bargain surfer
Hi ASB, fyi I purchased the faulty unit for it's screen and lid. both of which needed replacing on my own VAIO which had been damaged. In case you were not aware the value of the rest of that laptop for spares means I would not be losing out i.e. Bluray drive £40+, RAM £18+, 250gb HDD £20+, Keyboard, base plastics, faulty MB, CPU, Fan, wifi card and PSU etc etc will cover the rest.
Regarding the listing of an iPod in 2009 i don't get it.
As for trader like activities on HUKD, I am sure many members use ebay to buy and sell.


The reference to the ipod was to confirm that it's the same ebay id you disclosed. Our decision stands based on my earlier comments/observations.


Edited By: aScottishBloke on Jan 15, 2011 00:56
#18
Because you advertised those software bundle..clearly if you are decent, just prove the softwares are legit
1 Like #19
aScottishBloke
DaveLister
well i can't see who spammed it but i'm sure boothy did a few times, just like the same people who kept spamming vibeones thread yesterday, happens way too much
Votes remain private, however a member can only spam a thread once and it takes multiple members votes to action.
colinsunderland
are there any rules about people spamming threads just because they don't like them?
There's been 6+ spam votes attributed to this thread, members obviously have a concern.[/b]
but its not spam, so can any thread you don't like be spammed now?lol @ OPEDIT: Are you not allowed to sell any laptop or pc now with windows, unless you can prove resale rights?[/quote]We will seek further information when we deem a listing to be vague. Having a COA on the laptop that matches the advertised OS wouldn't be an issue. Vague listings with reference to 'extras' will always be worthy of closer examination.You can't spam threads solely for the reason that you don't like them. However if a member deems that a thread has a ulterior motives, then that's a fair call, given that a report may not have been actioned immediately.
bargain surfer
Hi ASB, fyi I purchased the faulty unit for it's screen and lid. both of which needed replacing on my own VAIO which had been damaged. In case you were not aware the value of the rest of that laptop for spares means I would not be losing out i.e. Bluray drive £40+, RAM £18+, 250gb HDD £20+, Keyboard, base plastics, faulty MB, CPU, Fan, wifi card and PSU etc etc will cover the rest.Regarding the listing of an iPod in 2009 i don't get it.As for trader like activities on HUKD, I am sure many members use ebay to buy and sell.
The reference to the ipod was to confirm that it's the same ebay id you disclosed. Our decision stands based on my earlier comments/observations.[/quote]
Sorry ASB but I really don't get it, I mean I have given you every Photo/screenshot needed for proving the software is genuine and as supplied by SONY, I have even by way of PM elaborated on the fact that "extras" referred to FREEWARE/GAOTD programs specifically this would be Aston desktop, CCleaner and SIW.

Which Comments/Observations are you basing your decision on?

You have really narked me with your comments in the FS/FT thread and what they imply, I am pretty sure I still have the original receipt for this laptop somewhere. When I dig it out I will post it on here and prove that you are a Dictator once and for all!
banned#20
aScottishBloke
DaveLister

well i can't see who spammed it but i'm sure boothy did a few times, just like the same people who kept spamming vibeones thread yesterday, happens way too much


Votes remain private, however a member can only spam a thread once and it takes multiple members votes to action.

yes but then the same people can spam it again once it's been opened up, right? so the same few people can spam a thread over and over again
banned 1 Like #21
DaveLister
i don't see how AScottishBloke can be 100% sure that it's the same laptop he bought on ebay, strong stalking though bringing up a thread about an ipod from over a year ago, also bargain surfer only seems to have 2 items for sale on ebay, hardly a big time ebay seller


From all the information available, I'm content that there was a breach of the trading rules. I'm here to look after the vast majority of members, not the 1 or 2 who are here to treat the trading rules with contempt.

In addition, it's not a court of law. We don't have to prove beyond all reasonable doubt. That said, we do make a balanced judgement, and on this occasion, I'm more than content with my original decision.

If you want to get a flavour of how potential buyers may have felt - point them towards this thread. You are in the minority here I'm afraid.



bargain surfer
As for FS/FT privileges on HUKD, I really couldn't care about them, REALLY. I just thought maybe a HUKD member would benefit from the laptop, you can feel free to pull the entire FS/FT thread or whatever because I have decided to sell privately and pass the proceeds on to charity.



The thread is closed, you won't be permitted any further trades. I'm sure you'll still be able to trade elsewhere, without disclosing so much information, however that's your call. I won't permit this to happen here.


I like your charitable side that has now surfaced. I'm more than happy to independently confirm this donation at a date that suits, subject to your agreement.


bargain surfer
Also judging by ASB stalking techniques I recall getting a pop up some time ago that HUKD is a known phishing site, looks like ASB has proved that to be true!


You are the member who posted that information on this site. Take responsibility please. As for the above, having been here several years then you spout that nonsense as a reply, seriously, I do wonder. Of course there's nothing like that happening here, just seems a silly comment from you having been found out.
#22
heovang
Because you advertised those software bundle..clearly if you are decent, just prove the softwares are legit

Haha You are right but anyone who has bought a decent level VAIO knows they have one of the best software bundles with their laptops. The link to this laptop is here and was given to ASB, feel free to click on tech specs and have a read of what is listed in bundled software.


http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Sony_VAIO_FZ11Z_VGN-FZ11Z/version.asp
banned#23
DaveLister

yes but then the same people can spam it again once it's been opened up, right? so the same few people can spam a thread over and over again


No, they can't.


bargain surfer

You have really narked me with your comments in the FS/FT thread and what they imply, I am pretty sure I still have the original receipt for this laptop somewhere. When I dig it out I will post it on here and prove that you are a Dictator once and for all!
.


Thanks, but I won't be changing my mind. You do of course have the right to appeal via Contact Us.
#24
aScottishBloke
DaveLister
i don't see how AScottishBloke can be 100% sure that it's the same laptop he bought on ebay, strong stalking though bringing up a thread about an ipod from over a year ago, also bargain surfer only seems to have 2 items for sale on ebay, hardly a big time ebay seller
From all the information available, I'm content that there was a breach of the trading rules. I'm here to look after the vast majority of members, not the 1 or 2 who are here to treat the trading rules with contempt.In addition, it's not a court of law. [b]I don't have to prove beyond all reasonable doubt. That said, I do make a balanced judgement, and on this occasion, I'm more than content with my original decision.If you want to get a flavour of how potential buyers may have felt - point them towards this thread. You are in the minority here I'm afraid.[/b]
bargain surfer
As for FS/FT privileges on HUKD, I really couldn't care about them, REALLY. I just thought maybe a HUKD member would benefit from the laptop, you can feel free to pull the entire FS/FT thread or whatever because I have decided to sell privately and pass the proceeds on to charity.
The thread is closed, you won't be permitted any further trades. I'm sure you'll still be able to trade elsewhere, without disclosing so much information, however that's your call. I won't permit this to happen here.I like your charitable side that has now surfaced. I'm more than happy to independently confirm this donation at a date that suits, subject to your agreement.
bargain surfer
Also judging by ASB stalking techniques I recall getting a pop up some time ago that HUKD is a known phishing site, looks like ASB has proved that to be true!
You are the member who posted that information on this site. Take responsibility please. As for the above, having been here several years then you spout that nonsense as a reply, seriously, I do wonder. Of course there's nothing like that happening here, just seems a silly comment from you having been found out.

As I said you are more a dictator than a moderator.

In your last PM your ONLY objection was me mentioning using the word OFFICE as a purpose for using the laptop, maybe typing would have been a better word to use. Anyway I sent you a photo of program manager confirming office trial version (again something that is shipped with a LOT of new Laptops)

Like I said as soon as i get the chance to find my receipt for the laptop you will see it posted on here, additionally I will save you the effort of INDEPENDENTLY confirming a donation to charity by posting the charity receipt on here also,

Edited By: bargain surfer on Jan 15, 2011 01:16
banned#25
aScottishBloke
DaveLister
i don't see how AScottishBloke can be 100% sure that it's the same laptop he bought on ebay, strong stalking though bringing up a thread about an ipod from over a year ago, also bargain surfer only seems to have 2 items for sale on ebay, hardly a big time ebay seller


From all the information available, I'm content that there was a breach of the trading rules. I'm here to look after the vast majority of members, not the 1 or 2 who are here to treat the trading rules with contempt.

In addition, it's not a court of law. We don't have to prove beyond all reasonable doubt. That said, we do make a balanced judgement, and on this occasion, I'm more than content with my original decision.

If you want to get a flavour of how potential buyers may have felt - point them towards this thread. You are in the minority here I'm afraid.

not quite sure how you class this as "looking after the vast majority of members" as nothing is pointing towards this person being a scammer/trader, a fair few people were interested in this laptop until you stuck your nose in where it wasn't needed

sorry but i'm sure if there was a poll, i'm sure the majority would like to see your mod status revoked and someone better put in charge of the FS/FT section of this forum
#26
DaveLister
aScottishBloke
DaveLister
i don't see how AScottishBloke can be 100% sure that it's the same laptop he bought on ebay, strong stalking though bringing up a thread about an ipod from over a year ago, also bargain surfer only seems to have 2 items for sale on ebay, hardly a big time ebay seller
From all the information available, I'm content that there was a breach of the trading rules. I'm here to look after the vast majority of members, not the 1 or 2 who are here to treat the trading rules with contempt.In addition, it's not a court of law. [b]I don't have to prove beyond all reasonable doubt. That said, I do make a balanced judgement, and on this occasion, I'm more than content with my original decision.[/b]
not quite sure how you class this as "looking after the vast majority of members" as nothing is pointing towards this person being a scammer/trader, a fair few people were interested in this laptop until you stuck your nose in where it wasn't neededsorry but i'm sure if there was a poll, i'm sure the majority would like to see your mod status revoked and someone better put in charge of the FS/FT section of this forum

Well said Dave, I think ASB should be served an ASBO, I would love to post all his pm's and my replies to them here to show just how he has not got a leg to stand on, but I think that's going to look better alongside my receipt from a well known retailer when I dig it out.

Edited By: bargain surfer on Jan 15, 2011 01:24
#27
bargain surfer
heovang
Because you advertised those software bundle..clearly if you are decent, just prove the softwares are legit


Haha You are right but anyone who has bought a decent level VAIO knows they have one of the best software bundles with their laptops. The link to this laptop is here and was given to ASB, feel free to click on tech specs and have a read of what is listed in bundled software.



http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Sony_VAIO_FZ11Z_VGN-FZ11Z/version.asp


This is convince enough and understandable (On the Specs on LaptopsDirect said the Adobe bundle is included). But re-read all the above, I think ASB locked the thread because you have trader activities and the nature of the purchases on Ebay.

If you have this laptop since day one, surely you can prove some sort of receipt to convince ASB ?

And regarding my thread for the Macbook Pro, and thanks for the head up..but Mac Recovery Disc have OEM software as: iLife, Snow Leopard as standard, the same to any Mac models. And every Mac users know this thing. Apart from that I have not mentioned any other software will be included.

Hope this explain the difference between my item and yours
banned 2 Likes #28
DaveLister

not quite sure how you class this as "looking after the vast majority of members" as nothing is pointing towards this person being a scammer/trader, a fair few people were interested in this laptop until you stuck your nose in where it wasn't needed

sorry but i'm sure if there was a poll, i'm sure the majority would like to see your mod status revoked and someone better put in charge of the FS/FT section of this forum


For anyone selling here, I would hope they are upfront an as honest as possible with the description of the goods. This is a community, I'm not content with the ME,ME,ME attitude shown by some.


As for polls, I think you'd be wrong. You do realise that it's primarily those who ignore the trading rules that shout the loudest.


Edited By: aScottishBloke on Jan 15, 2011 01:24
#29
Hpi_matrix
I dont trade on here though I do on a number of other forums, and I cant exactly see what this guy has done wrong. Im confused as to what exactly he has done wrong (may help me in the future should I decide to trade on here), and if he is in the wrong why ASB has bothered writing so many replies in this thread?


On here MOD team, including ASB act based on the majority of other members report the thread. If they feel it is not right, they Report to the Mod for further checks.

In this situation, the OP should be able to easily look for a receipt and prove it. Otherwise just Ebay it. As if ASB or any MOD decided in OP favours, what about other members who reported the thread ?

Edited By: heovang on Jan 15, 2011 01:25
1 Like #30
I think aSB is justified in taking the action he has on this occasion. Not sure why some members think they are a spokesperson for the rest of us.

Edited By: linuxlinks on Jan 15, 2011 01:26
#31
Why doesn't the OP just post pics of the complete laptop next to the base of the spare one proving that he did indeed buy the spare one for parts to mend his laptop? As I am taking this as the issue in question?
banned#32
tinkerbell28
ASB gets so much grief on here, when actually he is usually quite spot on tbh and has strong (useful) stalk tendancies.

Sometimes humans get things wrong, damned if he does, damned if he dosen't. But I have seen him stop a lot of dodgy trades with his stalking skills :p

well it doesn't take a genius to spot that JohnSmith21 who joined two hours ago, asking for £600 for an ipod, is a scammer

yes many people try it on, it needs to be moderated and i understand that it might be boring waiting for said scammer to appear and try it on but that's no excuse to find a tiny little hole in someones thread and exploit it resulting in the seller being banned from selling full stop, when they actually haven't done anything(that can't be put right) wrong


ps:

if it turns out that bargain surfer is a thief, scammer, rapist and an animal toucher i will be setting fire to his house but i will stand by what i've said

Edited By: DaveLister on Jan 15, 2011 01:32
#33
heovang
bargain surfer
heovang
Because you advertised those software bundle..clearly if you are decent, just prove the softwares are legit
Haha You are right but anyone who has bought a decent level VAIO knows they have one of the best software bundles with their laptops. The link to this laptop is here and was given to ASB, feel free to click on tech specs and have a read of what is listed in bundled software.[url=" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Sony_VAIO_FZ11Z_VGN-FZ11Z/version.asp
This is convince enough and understandable (On the Specs on LaptopsDirect said the Adobe bundle is included). But re-read all the above, I think ASB locked the thread because you have trader activities and the nature of the purchases on Ebay.If you have this laptop since day one, surely you can prove some sort of receipt to convince ASB ?And regarding my thread for the Macbook Pro, and thanks for the head up..but Mac Recovery Disc have OEM software as: iLife, Snow Leopard as standard, the same to any Mac models. And every Mac users know this thing. Apart from that I have not mentioned any other software will be included. Hope this explain the difference between my item and yours

Subscribe to this thread because your gonna love the content of the pm's he sent me and my replies, especially when the receipt is posted at the end of the thread! Believe you me each and every objection was clarified, you may be aware that recovery media is no longer included by manufacturers and people are expected to burn their own recovery discs with vista, that was just one other objection by ASB regarding "counterfeit media"
banned#34
heovang
Hpi_matrix
I dont trade on here though I do on a number of other forums, and I cant exactly see what this guy has done wrong. Im confused as to what exactly he has done wrong (may help me in the future should I decide to trade on here), and if he is in the wrong why ASB has bothered writing so many replies in this thread?


On here MOD team, including ASB act based on the majority of other members report the thread. If they feels it is not right, they Report to the Mod for further checks.

In this situation, the OP should be able to easily look for a receipt and prove it. Otherwise just Ebay it. As if ASB or any MOD decided in OP favours, what about other members who reported the thread ?

it's quite obvious that there are a fair few members who do things for stupid reasons, for example the people spamming threads because they don't like the subject/OP/etc

"i don't like bargain surfer so i'm going to report his thread"
#35
Awesome.

ASB stops user from breaking rules and miscing around the truth, then the charity card is pulled.
#36
bargain surfer
heovang
bargain surfer
heovang
Because you advertised those software bundle..clearly if you are decent, just prove the softwares are legit
Haha You are right but anyone who has bought a decent level VAIO knows they have one of the best software bundles with their laptops. The link to this laptop is here and was given to ASB, feel free to click on tech specs and have a read of what is listed in bundled software.[url= target=]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Sony_VAIO_FZ11Z_VGN-FZ11Z/version.asp[/url]
This is convince enough and understandable (On the Specs on LaptopsDirect said the Adobe bundle is included). But re-read all the above, I think ASB locked the thread because you have trader activities and the nature of the purchases on Ebay.If you have this laptop since day one, surely you can prove some sort of receipt to convince ASB ?And regarding my thread for the Macbook Pro, and thanks for the head up..but Mac Recovery Disc have OEM software as: iLife, Snow Leopard as standard, the same to any Mac models. And every Mac users know this thing. Apart from that I have not mentioned any other software will be included. Hope this explain the difference between my item and yours


Subscribe to this thread because your gonna love the content of the pm's he sent me and my replies, especially when the receipt is posted at the end of the thread! Believe you me each and every objection was clarified, you may be aware that recovery media is no longer included by manufacturers and people are expected to burn their own recovery discs with vista, that was just one other objection by ASB regarding "counterfeit media"


No, that line in Bold is wrong, that does not applied with Apple mac products, even my new Macbook Air was provided with a USB software reinstalled drive. (In other to explain for your concern on my thread :p)

However I don't think ASB trying to push on that aspect, but regarding the nature of your Ebay purchases in relation to this laptop

Edited By: heovang on Jan 15, 2011 01:39
#37
Less talky more proofy. The more you keep saying "just wait until I find the receipt" the less I believe we will ever see one.
banned#38
yes personally i've lost interest until a receipt is found
#39
heovang
bargain surfer
heovang
bargain surfer
heovang
Because you advertised those software bundle..clearly if you are decent, just prove the softwares are legit
Haha You are right but anyone who has bought a decent level VAIO knows they have one of the best software bundles with their laptops. The link to this laptop is here and was given to ASB, feel free to click on tech specs and have a read of what is listed in bundled software.[url=target=]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Sony_VAIO_FZ11Z_VGN-FZ11Z/version.asp[/url]
This is convince enough and understandable (On the Specs on LaptopsDirect said the Adobe bundle is included). But re-read all the above, I think ASB locked the thread because you have trader activities and the nature of the purchases on Ebay.If you have this laptop since day one, surely you can prove some sort of receipt to convince ASB ?And regarding my thread for the Macbook Pro, and thanks for the head up..but Mac Recovery Disc have OEM software as: iLife, Snow Leopard as standard, the same to any Mac models. And every Mac users know this thing. Apart from that I have not mentioned any other software will be included. Hope this explain the difference between my item and yours


Subscribe to this thread because your gonna love the content of the pm's he sent me and my replies, especially when the receipt is posted at the end of the thread! Believe you me each and every objection was clarified, you may be aware that recovery media is no longer included by manufacturers and people are expected to burn their own recovery discs with vista, that was just one other objection by ASB regarding "counterfeit media"


No, that line in Bold is wrong, that does not applied with Apple mac products, even my new Macbook Air was provided with a USB software reinstalled drive. (In other to explain for your concern on my thread :p)

However I don't think ASB trying to push on that aspect, but regarding the nature of your Ebay purchases in relation to this laptop


I think he meant generally, besides a USB stick doesn't class as media! :)
banned#40
well on the subject of FS/FT i count 15 bumps in this as he's not quoting people when replying, unless that rule has changed

http://www.hotukdeals.com/for-sale-trade/kinect-with-4-games-will-accept-off/850613#comments

why wasn't it locked? can you bump more than 3 times now?

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