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MSE forums unbelievable bias?

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8y, 5m agoPosted 8 years, 5 months ago
As a few may know already originally I posted a thread a mse forums.
I was questioning some things being told to me a trading standards about my unfortunate experiences with a firm called incarexpress.co.uk.
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=740609
Anyway the thread was moved to "The consumer vent board" and discussion continued albeit hindered by some biased trolls.
One day it was locked for no apparent reason and contacting the sites admin I was given no explanation or reason.
Can't find anything in the boards rules, other things like a link to the original thread in my sig was removed and reason stated as a "unwritten extension" to the actual rules posted which clearly stated "No referral links in sigs" nothing else.
So it it me or does a consumer vent board which actually makes it difficult to vent any use? perhaps an alternate site for venting needs to be set up.
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8y, 5m agoPosted 8 years, 5 months ago
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#2
So you post on HUKD?
#3
I would have thought it was obvious.:roll:

Threads that degenerate into personal squabbling get removed or locked for good reason.

" Remember to be nice to other MSEers" motto.
POSTS ARE NOT MONITORED! - Please report Abuse, Spam, Offensive, Illegal, Racist or Libellous Posts/PMs"
Guess someone got fed up.

Would it not have been simpler to send the faulty item back and negotiate compensation.

PS where's the HUKD deal?
#4
scattycat
I would have thought it was obvious.:roll:

Threads that degenerate into personal squabbling get removed or locked for good reason.

" Remember to be nice to other MSEers" motto.
POSTS ARE NOT MONITORED! - Please report Abuse, Spam, Offensive, Illegal, Racist or Libellous Posts/PMs"
Guess someone got fed up.

Would it not have been simpler to send the faulty item back and negotiate compensation.

PS where's the HUKD deal?


Don't want to start the discussion up on here, been plenty of that on mse but "simpler" is a state of mind
This was posted in the misc section(not deals) and was intended to ask if any other hukd's had received what I consider unfair treatment on mse
#5
maddogb
Don't want to start the discussion up on here, been plenty of that on mse but "simpler" is a state of mind
This was posted in the misc section(not deals) and was intended to ask if any other hukd's had received what I consider unfair treatment on mse


The answer is no, re "unfair treatment", though MSE is not the friendly site it was a few years ago. A lot of selfish people of the MrsT. generation seem to have joined ( Yoks with money ;-)) and the benevolent "do anything to help" crowd seem to have taken a back seat as sniping seems to have increased.
(You can only repeat the correct helping answer so many times before you loose the will, because of laziness to search a day old answer to the same question.)
As always a good thing gets eroded directly proportional to the bigger it gets, (Baz's Law)

WRT "state of mind" It would seem that disagreement with your view is not acceptable, though I do take your point. Brick wall comes to mind as the situation is at stalemate, and I presume there is a time limit to your options. Not even an Act of Parliament solves all problems.
#6
Not quite sure what you meant by the last paragraph esp "WRT",
I think what disturbed me the most was the constant trolling, ie people simply expressing biased or ill founded opinions and sticking to them come what may
When you try to explain things that go against their opinion or why something is irrelevant then it is seen as argumentative and sealed off by the admins with little or no justification!
At the start of my adventures on there I was simply requesting extra info, it turns out the subject was a little too subtle for some, and it resulted in some admittedly poor responses from me but only in retalliation.
It seemed then that despite taking abuse or mickey taking as soon as I retaliated the thread got closed or deleted.
So in appearance it seems that a few biased trolls essentially got useful discussions ended. despite them being obvious more interested in retailers rights than consumers.
#7
WRT= with respect to.

I am not disagreeing with your stand. Just giving reasons as to why, in my opinion the thread was moved ( hopefully to get better informed replies on a more appropriate board), then locked( to prevent further off topic pointless posting, degenerating into vitriolic personal attacks). There are opinionated lurkers just waiting to pounce on most forums, and it seems you took the bait.

MSE is like a large oil tanker with a small crew on the bridge, whos jobs are to promote ML (HMV ;-) ) in the media and "the don't get ripped off, aims of his site"
The forum is an idea generating tool used to promote ML's " awareness of the consumer scene", policed by volunteers who have limited powers as allocated board guides on boards not usually of their choosing, so a mild form of anarchy does exist for a limited time.
There have been some really vitriolic forum spats in the past that have almost lead to legal proceedings being taken against the site. Hence their current nervous "over reaction ?" to your thread.

As to the radio, I guess the firm want proof of the fault before paying for return postage as in their eyes you could be a non technical timewaster who botched the installation and could be returning a faultless unit.
#8
scattycat
WRT= with respect to.

I am not disagreeing with your stand. Just giving reasons as to why, in my opinion the thread was moved ( hopefully to get better informed replies on a more appropriate board), then locked( to prevent further off topic pointless posting, degenerating into vitriolic personal attacks). There are opinionated lurkers just waiting to pounce on most forums, and it seems you took the bait.

MSE is like a large oil tanker with a small crew on the bridge, whos jobs are to promote ML (HMV ;-) ) in the media and "the don't get ripped off, aims of his site"
The forum is an idea generating tool used to promote ML's " awareness of the consumer scene", policed by volunteers who have limited powers as allocated board guides on boards not usually of their choosing, so a mild form of anarchy does exist for a limited time.
There have been some really vitriolic forum spats in the past that have almost lead to legal proceedings being taken against the site. Hence their current nervous "over reaction ?" to your thread.

As to the radio, I guess the firm want proof of the fault before paying for return postage as in their eyes you could be a non technical timewaster who botched the installation and could be returning a faultless unit.


ah didn't know that about the guides!!, knew they were volunteers but thought they might have been picked with a little more thought going into the process.
lol now the WRT sentence makes more sense. reading back through the threads I still fail to see where I deserved such vitriolic retorts admittedly with further postings I could see how some had misunderstood, but at the time felt it was not actaully misunderstanding more closed ears
It really was not that I wouldn't listen to reason, more of a case that I needed more backup, most posts were based on "This is my opinion so it must be right".
Where people posted well "this act says this" etc, I did take that to mind, researched it, discussed with TS etc and posted said references.
I agree that there needs to be some sort of control but this could be achieved in a slightly more balanced manner, as it stands, if a troll disagrees with a thread he can quite easily get it closed, and that don't seem right at all.

As for the radio it's a pity the firm considered that option above all else hence the rabid vents but hey it's a free country no?
#9
oops maffed it up

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