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... and no-one stops him :( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7401479.stm Opinions? I think it's a crying shame that aholes like Robert Mugabe can get away with brutality and pillage of h… Read More
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9y, 1w agoPosted 9 years, 1 week ago
... and no-one stops him :(

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7401479.stm

Opinions? I think it's a crying shame that aholes like Robert Mugabe can get away with brutality and pillage of his country and the UN and African neighbours do nothing. In fact, i'd go as far as to say that Mbeki is in league with Mugabe's illegal regime. I personally see no use for the UN. It's a shambolic waste of time, all words and no action.
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#1
lmao great deal
banned#2
lol africa
#3
whose mugabe?
#4
His a gangster. Simple. Stange though Bush is not getting invloved like he did with Saddam Hussain
#5
muffin247
whose mugabe?


Zimbabwe's president. His been in power for 28 years dont you know ?
#6
China, France, UK, USA, Russia are the UN's 5 permanent members on the security council. says a lot really about clash of interests. despite the UN's best efforts to resolve things peacefully, and their tireless work in righting the wrongs of these evil people do not get a lot of highlight.

i have had friends who worked in the UN and NGOs, one for eg helped to write this crazy document to help identify which artefacts meet the criteria eg. belonging to iraq or which belong to other countries that are historically linked with iraq, and at what point the plundered goods during invasion that are now sold in the black market will be deemed stolen goods.

u just have to admire their selfless desire and motivation of the little people who still believe in the right way to do things, even if they dont make the headlines. me? i am just a cynical realist.

sometimes i do wonder why 'assasinations' only happen to certain people, usually the good-doers.
#7
The UN were told by the African Union that it wanted to handle the problem themselves, all I've seen from them is an amazing ability to ignore what's going on!
#8
If Mbeki was in league with Mugabe do you not think he would have allowed banned south African ports from accepting delivery of weapons shipment meant for Zimbabwe? After Iraq the UN doesn't want to help Britain or America do anything and who could blame them after both countries decided it would be best to go against the UN security council and invade Iraq. Zimbabwe is a bad situation but i do think the Sudan situation is far worse and better dealt with by the UN, so in closing the UN is not a waste of time just because they aren't doing what you want.
#9
film about the UN ... most recent one that comes to mind is The Interpreter with nicole kidman, sean penn ... directed by sydney pollack. not a masterpiece because i kept looking at her new improved chin, her clothes wondering who picked the outfits out etc. somehow even experienced actors as they both are, they did not have on-screen chemistry.

sometimes films reflect what people think of ...
#10
jocksteeluk
If Mbeki was in league with Mugabe do you not think he would have allowed banned south African ports from accepting delivery of weapons shipment meant for Zimbabwe? After Iraq the UN doesn't want to help Britain or America do anything and who could blame them after both countries decided it would be best to go against the UN security council and invade Iraq. Zimbabwe is a bad situation but i do think the Sudan situation is far worse and better dealt with by the UN, so in closing the UN is not a waste of time just because they aren't doing what you want.


So will they do something in the Sudan then? Not on your nelly. Nor will they so something in Zimbabwe, Somalia, Burma, in fact any country that has no assets worth 'liberating'. SA couldn't be seen to be helping Mugabe. Do we assume that, had the world's attention not been on that shipment, he would have done the same thing? I very much doubt it. It's the difference between 'on the record' politics and 'off the record' politics.
As for Iraq, do you think the UN would ever have given a mandate? Iran is building bombs to obliterate Israel at this very moment and the UN just stands by and watches LMAO
#11
kippy
China, France, UK, USA, Russia are the UN's 5 permanent members on the security council. says a lot really about clash of interests.


That is exactly right. That is also the very reason that the UN will never do nothing about nothing. China will always veto the US, as will Russia. The US and UK will always veto China and Russia. France is just a silent partner in the matter.
#12
Scribbles
That is exactly right. That is also the very reason that the UN will never do nothing about nothing. China will always veto the US, as will Russia. The US and UK will always veto China and Russia. France is just a silent partner in the matter.


France .. cowards when it comes to making a stand. i know they had the revolution and all, but their political stance have always been internalised. they dont support the iraq invasion but invited mugabe for tea.
#13
china will rule the world in about 50 years time or at least become a super power!!!yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
#14
I think Male genitals are the real super power!!!yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
#15
im gonna use mine on you!
#16
qazim
His a gangster. Simple. Stange though Bush is not getting invloved like he did with Saddam Hussain


he doesnt have time within his presidency. hopefully barack will sort it out when he comes into power!!!!
#17
jocksteeluk
I think Male genitals are the real super power!!!yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


u think? LMAO with all the blood going down there what's left for the brain eh. not a very attractive looking bit either ... hehehe.

ok me off to bed. need beauty sleep.

peace everyone.
#18
qazim;2099943
Stange though Bush is not getting invloved like he did with Saddam Hussain


there's no oil in Zimbabwe!
#19
I lolled...
#20
What happened to my Mugabe thread from a while back - just searched for it under usual search words and not showing. Can't find it from my 'started threads' list either. Was it pulled or something...? (from meory, it was titled "Mugabe smarter than you think?")
#22
Thing is though... if they could get the country back to producing crops again it would ease the current price rises of food which are effecting everyone, as well as feeding the starvin' children
#24
makes blair look like a saint.
#25
Liddle ol' me
Thanks! Rep added :thumbsup:


Cheers! :thumbsup:

The problem is that Mugabe was happy enough to keep the white farmers in charge of large commercial farms as long as his position seemed unassailable. As soon as he started getting bad results in polls then he started his 'fast-track' land reforms and gave anyone who wanted to do it the chance to forcibly take land from those farms. They said that they were taking it a reward for fighting in the war of independence when Mugabe took power, mostly they were all too young to have done that and were just thugs who saw an opportunity. Since the knowledge of farming has been taken away and these left don't know what they're doing then food production has dropped considerably, crops have failed and with food shortages inflation has gone up and up. Over the past few years malnutrition has appeared and there are now people starving in what was once the 'bread-basket' of Africa and a net exporter of numerous crops.

It's the saddest thing to see and the only reason it has happened is because Mugabe was scared of losing his stranglehold on power. He did what every desperate politician does and blamed a section of the population for something to focus attention away from his losses and to get people behind him again as the 'hero of the independence war'. The thing is that there is no 'quick-fix' to the way land is distributed in Zimbabwe or other countries where a white minority have most of the best land. These things have to be long-term or you end up with the situation they currently have. I'm not excusing the white farmers at all as they benefited for years by using cheap labour and although some invested in their farm workers, they tended to do the bare minimum in most cases. This meant their workers could never work their way to the point of buying their own piece of land and have any independence from the rich white farmers. It's these same workers who have ended up in an even worse situation as they've been targeted by Mugabe's militia because of their support for the opposition.

Mugabe makes out he's a strong man, but he's so scared of democracy as he knows he would be out on his ear. It's why he is so brutal in the way he treats those in opposition with threats, beatings and murder being commonplace nowadays.

As Liddle said back at the time of the election he has managed to hang on in there because he has the media and the army in his grip, that's all he needs! He still portrays this as a fight against British Imperialism, and implicitly says that anyone in opposition is either funded by the CIA or some other 'foreign' organisation who just want to see an end to Black rule in Zimbabwe. The only way I see this ending is civil war and, as always, this will mean more deaths of innocent civilians and a country that has been pushed even further into deprivation.
#26
Zimbabwe: where a dollar wont buy you a banana.
this is a march 2007 article.

excerpt "It is on this meagre amount of Zim$25,000 a day that Zimbabweans struggle to beat the cost of living and feed their families in an economy with the world’s highest annual inflation rate - more than 1,700 - where the prices of basic commodities shoot up by significant amounts every week."

portia shiri earns $4 a month as an accounts clerk, her rent costs half of that and her travel is double her salary. she has resorted to walking 14km a day to work.
#27
PapaSmurf
there's no oil in Zimbabwe!


and surprisingly thats why bush aint there,
forget mugabe what about bush all the lost inocent lives that we have seen.
its ok for every1 but a big issue foe mugabe
the arabs has raised there oil prices and deling in euros now not dollers thats why the whole of market,inflation is strugling why cos of bush and his cat blair
i want bush to go for iran in that way he will pay big price,

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