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Click the link to see this absolute joke of a subject be discussed.. I would like to see an attempt on justifying this? But seriously in 2017 how is it possible that we have a section of society… Read More
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1w, 2d agoPosted 1 week, 2 days ago
Click the link to see this absolute joke of a subject be discussed..

I would like to see an attempt on justifying this?

But seriously in 2017 how is it possible that we have a section of society that is so indoctrinated that domestic abuse is a coffee morning discussion on the 'best way' to do it..

http://metro.co.uk/video/muslim-women-explain-men-hit-wives-1447013/

next up is Youtubes Top 10 pimping hands to the cheek.

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1w, 2d agoPosted 1 week, 2 days ago
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farha786
The Qur'an gives guidelines to men on how NOT to beat women ie not to use force where one could cause pain.And it's a guideline for men who maybe in the heat of the moment may become angry for instance if a wife has had an affair . I mean what would most men do in this situation?Most would resort to violence but in Islam men are Not permitted to use their fists.No punching and kicking are allowed in islam.Therefore this verse is instructing men not to beat women in any circumstances. :D

I think you're hanging out with the wrong sort of 'people' if you think most would resort to violence on their spouse when finding out they were having an affair.

If you're religion needs guidelines on how to abuse/not abuse your wife it's probably not a very nice one.
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Those are some good tips, will try them this weekend
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Roofi
coys67
Roofi
J4GG4
Because when one believes in something (in this case the koran) then they believe its acceptable for their husband to hit them. They're only allowed to beat them if they do not do as the husband asks though.
Most Muslims probably don't follow this. If they do, highly unlikely the wife will report him for it.
I saw a Arab Muslim online once that said only like 00.1% of Muslims are true Muslims. Which is true.
Sorry to interrupt but i am myself a muslim and no where in Quran does it mention that men are allowed to beat their wives. Infact Quran mentions giving utmost respect to women. We should respect each others religion and not create these threads where we unintentionally and unknowingly disrespect each others religious sentiments. And i guess one should do a complete factual research and then create these kinda threads.
Why should i respect your religion? i respect you as a person without even meeting you, but all religion is fair game for derision imho.
Thanks for showing me respect. But lol how can you respect me if you cant respect my religion. On a serious note i respect you your views and your religion no matter what. Even if you dont respect me and my religion i still respect you and your religion because thats what Quran has taught me!!!

To my mind you are not identified by your religion any more than you are by your star sign, you are a victim of religion and deserving of sympathy, i wouldn't be surprised if you have been brainwashed from an early age into the slavery of religion in the same way a baby can be born addicted to heroin from a drug addled mother or an abused child can themself turn into an abuser because its the only form of "love" they know.
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Well I came into the thread to condemn the Linked video and rather than it be explained better, all I can see is people stating that I am in the wrong for posting it! or even better It shouldnt be discussed because Im not an expert on Islam..

simple these women are explaining a verse that permits! a man to hit a women be it with a small stick or coiled cloth.. it permits it.. its disgusting and women are kept oppressed by these silly verses that are most likely rewritten hundreds of times of the thousands of years to it fit with whatever agenda a corrupt religion sees fit for that century.

The comment above about most men turn to violence is disgraceful, most men are good and decent and woudl not turn to violence, I woudl say its seen to be far more acceptable for a woman to slap a man, which is equally bad.

Edited By: haritori on Apr 14, 2017 09:51
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Without wanting to get my big wooden spoon and stir things up

There are different understandings to the Quran and Islam and to reiterate my point I point towards IS (aka ISIL, Daesh)

Therefore where these ladies interpret using a small stick like a toothbrush and a coiled scarf others "sections" of Islam and their understandings/interpretations of the Quran will convert the toothbrush into a leather belt and the coiled scarf into a machette

And then comes the deniers.......

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4 Likes #1
Leave the crazy **** to themselves.

We all should concentrate on our own lives a little more.
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kinky
1 Like #3
Because when one believes in something (in this case the koran) then they believe its acceptable for their husband to hit them. They're only allowed to beat them if they do not do as the husband asks though.

Most Muslims probably don't follow this. If they do, highly unlikely the wife will report him for it.

I saw a Arab Muslim online once that said only like 00.1% of Muslims are true Muslims. Which is true.
#4
I'm not justifying it.

But they are taking about how scholars have said to hit with a small piece of cloth or toothbrush which is pretty funny. I think OP you need to expand your news sources and educate on world cultures if you are asking how this exists in 2017.

Just out of interest any man not ever been at least love tapped by a spouse for doing wrong?
2 Likes #5
The same page, scroll down to hear about the badger mauling someone at a bbq......guess that shows the level of intellect required to take any notice of that "news" site. If you are still confused, the actual video the op is making such a fuss about is trying to show that the method of "hitting your wife" was with a small twig or a scarf, in a playful manner......not with the baseball bat that the op would have you think this relates to.
banned 2 Likes #6
Why can't individual keeps their views to themselves, research and better acknowledge their minds and make a judgment on that, other than making a post which is likely to start debates. Which I've seen in the past when someone posted, " is it halal" on some deal.. best to respect each and everyone and like the first comment said, focus on your own life. However don't agree with the first sentence. What's the censored word saying oO
3 Likes #7
Chiptivo
Leave the crazy **** to themselves.
We all should concentrate on our own lives a little more.
Shhhh, if we don't talk about it, then maybe it wont happen.
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MO115IN
Why can't individual keeps their views to themselves, research and better acknowledge their minds and make a judgment on that, other than making a post which is likely to start debates. Which I've seen in the past when someone posted, " is it halal" on some deal.. best to respect each and everyone and like the first comment said, focus on your own life. However don't agree with the first sentence. What's the censored word saying oO
how can beating a woman be representative of the respect for each other which you recommend?
#9
catbeans
I'm not justifying it.

But they are taking about how scholars have said to hit with a small piece of cloth or toothbrush which is pretty funny. I think OP you need to expand your news sources and educate on world cultures if you are asking how this exists in 2017.

Just out of interest any man not ever been at least love tapped by a spouse for doing wrong?
what is 'love tapped' ?
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davewave
catbeans
I'm not justifying it.
But they are taking about how scholars have said to hit with a small piece of cloth or toothbrush which is pretty funny. I think OP you need to expand your news sources and educate on world cultures if you are asking how this exists in 2017.
Just out of interest any man not ever been at least love tapped by a spouse for doing wrong?
what is 'love tapped' ?

In the ****.
banned 2 Likes #11
davewave
MO115IN
Why can't individual keeps their views to themselves, research and better acknowledge their minds and make a judgment on that, other than making a post which is likely to start debates. Which I've seen in the past when someone posted, " is it halal" on some deal.. best to respect each and everyone and like the first comment said, focus on your own life. However don't agree with the first sentence. What's the censored word saying oO
how can beating a woman be representative of the respect for each other which you recommend?


lol I'm not talking about people hitting each other. I'm saying like the person who started this thread. It's no point is there? Some people will have more hatred to Muslim... due to this. So I said it's best to not create such as this. I did not say anything about those beating a women as it's clearly wrong. I was just saying, threads like this causes issues.. and with the given example on my previous post.

Edited By: MO115IN on Apr 14, 2017 03:16: .
6 Likes #12
Without wanting to get my big wooden spoon and stir things up

There are different understandings to the Quran and Islam and to reiterate my point I point towards IS (aka ISIL, Daesh)

Therefore where these ladies interpret using a small stick like a toothbrush and a coiled scarf others "sections" of Islam and their understandings/interpretations of the Quran will convert the toothbrush into a leather belt and the coiled scarf into a machette

And then comes the deniers.......
10 Likes #13
Those are some good tips, will try them this weekend
3 Likes #14
MO115IN
davewave
MO115IN
Why can't individual keeps their views to themselves, research and better acknowledge their minds and make a judgment on that, other than making a post which is likely to start debates. Which I've seen in the past when someone posted, " is it halal" on some deal.. best to respect each and everyone and like the first comment said, focus on your own life. However don't agree with the first sentence. What's the censored word saying oO
how can beating a woman be representative of the respect for each other which you recommend?
lol I'm not talking about people hitting each other. I'm saying like the person who started this thread. It's no point is there? Some people will have more hatred to Muslim... due to this. So I said it's best to not create such as this. I did not say anything about those beating a women as it's clearly wrong. I was just saying, threads like this causes issues.. and with the given example on my previous post.
yeah cover up any discussion of violence...perhaps the government should burn books too - they discuss issues which aren't 'any of the readers' business' eh?
#15
MO115IN
Why can't individual keeps their views to themselves, research and better acknowledge their minds and make a judgment on that, other than making a post which is likely to start debates. Which I've seen in the past when someone posted, " is it halal" on some deal.. best to respect each and everyone and like the first comment said, focus on your own life. However don't agree with the first sentence. What's the censored word saying oO


before you joined hukd?
#16
didnt Madonna sing a song about spanking? Wasn't she Catholic?
1 Like #17
philphil61
Without wanting to get my big wooden spoon and stir things up

There are different understandings to the Quran and Islam and to reiterate my point I point towards IS (aka ISIL, Daesh)

Therefore where these ladies interpret using a small stick like a toothbrush and a coiled scarf others "sections" of Islam and their understandings/interpretations of the Quran will convert the toothbrush into a leather belt and the coiled scarf into a machette

And then comes the deniers.......


And then comes the deniers
Why are you bringing tights or stockings into the conversation, are you getting all excited now!!! :D

Edited By: Dyslexic_Dog on Apr 14, 2017 08:07: .
2 Likes #18
The Qur'an gives guidelines to men on how NOT to beat women ie not to use force where one could cause pain.And it's a guideline for men who maybe in the heat of the moment may become angry for instance if a wife has had an affair . I mean what would most men do in this situation?Most would resort to violence but in Islam men are Not permitted to use their fists.No punching and kicking are allowed in islam.Therefore this verse is instructing men not to beat women in any circumstances. :D
2 Likes #19
J4GG4
Because when one believes in something (in this case the koran) then they believe its acceptable for their husband to hit them. They're only allowed to beat them if they do not do as the husband asks though.
Most Muslims probably don't follow this. If they do, highly unlikely the wife will report him for it.
I saw a Arab Muslim online once that said only like 00.1% of Muslims are true Muslims. Which is true.
Sorry to interrupt but i am myself a muslim and no where in Quran does it mention that men are allowed to beat their wives. Infact Quran mentions giving utmost respect to women. We should respect each others religion and not create these threads where we unintentionally and unknowingly disrespect each others religious sentiments. And i guess one should do a complete factual research and then create these kinda threads.
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davewave
MO115IN
davewave
MO115IN
Why can't individual keeps their views to themselves, research and better acknowledge their minds and make a judgment on that, other than making a post which is likely to start debates. Which I've seen in the past when someone posted, " is it halal" on some deal.. best to respect each and everyone and like the first comment said, focus on your own life. However don't agree with the first sentence. What's the censored word saying oO
how can beating a woman be representative of the respect for each other which you recommend?
lol I'm not talking about people hitting each other. I'm saying like the person who started this thread. It's no point is there? Some people will have more hatred to Muslim... due to this. So I said it's best to not create such as this. I did not say anything about those beating a women as it's clearly wrong. I was just saying, threads like this causes issues.. and with the given example on my previous post.
yeah cover up any discussion of violence...perhaps the government should burn books too - they discuss issues which aren't 'any of the readers' business' eh?


Wow. Clearly you didn't understand my point. When did I mention anything of violence lol.
banned#21
shadey12
MO115IN
Why can't individual keeps their views to themselves, research and better acknowledge their minds and make a judgment on that, other than making a post which is likely to start debates. Which I've seen in the past when someone posted, " is it halal" on some deal.. best to respect each and everyone and like the first comment said, focus on your own life. However don't agree with the first sentence. What's the censored word saying oO


before you joined hukd?


Just because I made a account recently doesn't mean I was on HuKD from before...
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farha786
The Qur'an gives guidelines to men on how NOT to beat women ie not to use force where one could cause pain.And it's a guideline for men who maybe in the heat of the moment may become angry for instance if a wife has had an affair . I mean what would most men do in this situation?Most would resort to violence but in Islam men are Not permitted to use their fists.No punching and kicking are allowed in islam.Therefore this verse is instructing men not to beat women in any circumstances. :D

I think you're hanging out with the wrong sort of 'people' if you think most would resort to violence on their spouse when finding out they were having an affair.

If you're religion needs guidelines on how to abuse/not abuse your wife it's probably not a very nice one.
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themorgatron
farha786
The Qur'an gives guidelines to men on how NOT to beat women ie not to use force where one could cause pain.And it's a guideline for men who maybe in the heat of the moment may become angry for instance if a wife has had an affair . I mean what would most men do in this situation?Most would resort to violence but in Islam men are Not permitted to use their fists.No punching and kicking are allowed in islam.Therefore this verse is instructing men not to beat women in any circumstances. :D

I think you're hanging out with the wrong sort of 'people' if you think most would resort to violence on their spouse when finding out they were having an affair.

If you're religion needs guidelines on how to abuse/not abuse your wife it's probably not a very nice one.


Actually i hang out with the few percentage of decent individuals thank you very much :) .You need to remember that not everyone is law abiding and decent towards women.Hence the violence towards women statistic show . Therefore as i said the Qur'an is a guideline for those who may not quite understand how to deal with difficult situations for instance finding your wife has had an affair, Even in this situation men are not permitted to use violence. :)
3 Likes #24
Roofi
J4GG4
Because when one believes in something (in this case the koran) then they believe its acceptable for their husband to hit them. They're only allowed to beat them if they do not do as the husband asks though.
Most Muslims probably don't follow this. If they do, highly unlikely the wife will report him for it.
I saw a Arab Muslim online once that said only like 00.1% of Muslims are true Muslims. Which is true.
Sorry to interrupt but i am myself a muslim and no where in Quran does it mention that men are allowed to beat their wives. Infact Quran mentions giving utmost respect to women. We should respect each others religion and not create these threads where we unintentionally and unknowingly disrespect each others religious sentiments. And i guess one should do a complete factual research and then create these kinda threads.

Why should i respect your religion? i respect you as a person without even meeting you, but all religion is fair game for derision imho.
#25
catbeans
I'm not justifying it.
But they are taking about how scholars have said to hit with a small piece of cloth or toothbrush which is pretty funny. I think OP you need to expand your news sources and educate on world cultures if you are asking how this exists in 2017.
Just out of interest any man not ever been at least love tapped by a spouse for doing wrong?

Sounds like your justifying it to me..

and for the record, I do not read the Metro but was lead there by a link on this site last night.
#26
MO115IN
Why can't individual keeps their views to themselves, research and better acknowledge their minds and make a judgment on that, other than making a post which is likely to start debates. Which I've seen in the past when someone posted, " is it halal" on some deal.. best to respect each and everyone and like the first comment said, focus on your own life. However don't agree with the first sentence. What's the censored word saying oO

So we should not debate or discuss, just blindly follow?
2 Likes #27
philphil61
Without wanting to get my big wooden spoon and stir things up
There are different understandings to the Quran and Islam and to reiterate my point I point towards IS (aka ISIL, Daesh)
Therefore where these ladies interpret using a small stick like a toothbrush and a coiled scarf others "sections" of Islam and their understandings/interpretations of the Quran will convert the toothbrush into a leather belt and the coiled scarf into a machette
And then comes the deniers.......
^This, but lets just be pc and ignore it.
7 Likes #28
Well I came into the thread to condemn the Linked video and rather than it be explained better, all I can see is people stating that I am in the wrong for posting it! or even better It shouldnt be discussed because Im not an expert on Islam..

simple these women are explaining a verse that permits! a man to hit a women be it with a small stick or coiled cloth.. it permits it.. its disgusting and women are kept oppressed by these silly verses that are most likely rewritten hundreds of times of the thousands of years to it fit with whatever agenda a corrupt religion sees fit for that century.

The comment above about most men turn to violence is disgraceful, most men are good and decent and woudl not turn to violence, I woudl say its seen to be far more acceptable for a woman to slap a man, which is equally bad.

Edited By: haritori on Apr 14, 2017 09:51
2 Likes #29
haritori
Well I came into the thread to condemn the Linked video and rather than it be explained better, all I can see is people stating that I am in the wrong for posting it! or even better It shouldnt be discussed because Im not an expert on Islam..
simple these women are explaining a verse that permits! a man to hit a women be it with a small stick or coiled cloth.. it permits it.. its disgusting and women are kept oppressed by these silly verses that are most likely rewritten hundreds of times of the thousands of years to it fit with whatever agenda a corrupt religion sees fit for that century.
The comment above about most men turn to violence is disgraceful, most men are good and decent and woudl not turn to violence, I woudl say its seen to be far more acceptable for a woman to slap a man, which is equally bad.
It apparently comes down to how they "interpret the verses".
4 Likes #30
haritori
Well I came into the thread to condemn the Linked video and rather than it be explained better, all I can see is people stating that I am in the wrong for posting it! or even better It shouldnt be discussed because Im not an expert on Islam..
simple these women are explaining a verse that permits! a man to hit a women be it with a small stick or coiled cloth.. it permits it.. its disgusting and women are kept oppressed by these silly verses that are most likely rewritten hundreds of times of the thousands of years to it fit with whatever agenda a corrupt religion sees fit for that century.
The comment above about most men turn to violence is disgraceful, most men are good and decent and woudl not turn to violence, I woudl say its seen to be far more acceptable for a woman to slap a man, which is equally bad.

The last thing religious people want is for the light to be shone on their ridiculous beliefs and everyone to see how vile their religion really is.
4 Likes #31
MO115IN
Why can't individual keeps their views to themselves, research and better acknowledge their minds and make a judgment on that, other than making a post which is likely to start debates. Which I've seen in the past when someone posted, " is it halal" on some deal.. best to respect each and everyone and like the first comment said, focus on your own life. However don't agree with the first sentence. What's the censored word saying oO
I'm guessing you keep your mouth & eyes shut when you know a woman is being abused at home by her husband/boyfriend as long as it's not in your house.Weak & cowardly view you have.

If someone male/female is being abused sexually or assaulted & I find out about it,then I'll broadcast it better than a radio station!
2 Likes #32
coys67
Roofi
J4GG4
Because when one believes in something (in this case the koran) then they believe its acceptable for their husband to hit them. They're only allowed to beat them if they do not do as the husband asks though.
Most Muslims probably don't follow this. If they do, highly unlikely the wife will report him for it.
I saw a Arab Muslim online once that said only like 00.1% of Muslims are true Muslims. Which is true.
Sorry to interrupt but i am myself a muslim and no where in Quran does it mention that men are allowed to beat their wives. Infact Quran mentions giving utmost respect to women. We should respect each others religion and not create these threads where we unintentionally and unknowingly disrespect each others religious sentiments. And i guess one should do a complete factual research and then create these kinda threads.
Why should i respect your religion? i respect you as a person without even meeting you, but all religion is fair game for derision imho.
Thanks for showing me respect. But lol how can you respect me if you cant respect my religion. On a serious note i respect you your views and your religion no matter what. Even if you dont respect me and my religion i still respect you and your religion because thats what Quran has taught me!!!
#33
haritori
Well I came into the thread to condemn the Linked video and rather than it be explained better, all I can see is people stating that I am in the wrong for posting it! or even better It shouldnt be discussed because Im not an expert on Islam..

simple these women are explaining a verse that permits! a man to hit a women be it with a small stick or coiled cloth.. it permits it.. its disgusting and women are kept oppressed by these silly verses that are most likely rewritten hundreds of times of the thousands of years to it fit with whatever agenda a corrupt religion sees fit for that century.

The comment above about most men turn to violence is disgraceful, most men are good and decent and woudl not turn to violence, I woudl say its seen to be far more acceptable for a woman to slap a man, which is equally bad.


Yes it permits it just as you yourself stated in the same manner a women would hit a man in such situations ie a "slap".Therefore the conclusion is that men are NOT permitted to use violence towards women.Same rule applies to women.
#34
Are you even aware of the domestic violence statistics?.The Qur'an gives guidelines for such men who would otherwise resort to violence.Why are you finding it so difficult to comprehend this? :)
3 Likes #35
Roofi
coys67
Roofi
J4GG4
Because when one believes in something (in this case the koran) then they believe its acceptable for their husband to hit them. They're only allowed to beat them if they do not do as the husband asks though.
Most Muslims probably don't follow this. If they do, highly unlikely the wife will report him for it.
I saw a Arab Muslim online once that said only like 00.1% of Muslims are true Muslims. Which is true.
Sorry to interrupt but i am myself a muslim and no where in Quran does it mention that men are allowed to beat their wives. Infact Quran mentions giving utmost respect to women. We should respect each others religion and not create these threads where we unintentionally and unknowingly disrespect each others religious sentiments. And i guess one should do a complete factual research and then create these kinda threads.
Why should i respect your religion? i respect you as a person without even meeting you, but all religion is fair game for derision imho.
Thanks for showing me respect. But lol how can you respect me if you cant respect my religion. On a serious note i respect you your views and your religion no matter what. Even if you dont respect me and my religion i still respect you and your religion because thats what Quran has taught me!!!


it's a shame that the Quran hasn't taught all its believers the same as you.
#36
jimbo001
J4GG4
Because when one believes in something (in this case the koran) then they believe its acceptable for their husband to hit them. They're only allowed to beat them if they do not do as the husband asks though.
Most Muslims probably don't follow this. If they do, highly unlikely the wife will report him for it.
I saw a Arab Muslim online once that said only like 00.1% of Muslims are true Muslims. Which is true.
Because that 'arab Muslim' was somehow an authority?
Fool.
Could be worse, it was likely a Wahhabi who made that statement, which basically means "he's full of BS". Wahhabism is by far (and widely recognised as) the worst of Islam and Islamic principles.

Edited By: hass123 on Apr 14, 2017 10:19
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farha786
haritori
Well I came into the thread to condemn the Linked video and rather than it be explained better, all I can see is people stating that I am in the wrong for posting it! or even better It shouldnt be discussed because Im not an expert on Islam..
simple these women are explaining a verse that permits! a man to hit a women be it with a small stick or coiled cloth.. it permits it.. its disgusting and women are kept oppressed by these silly verses that are most likely rewritten hundreds of times of the thousands of years to it fit with whatever agenda a corrupt religion sees fit for that century.
The comment above about most men turn to violence is disgraceful, most men are good and decent and woudl not turn to violence, I woudl say its seen to be far more acceptable for a woman to slap a man, which is equally bad.
Yes it permits it just as you yourself stated in the same manner a women would hit a man in such situations ie a "slap".Therefore the conclusion is that men are NOT permitted to use violence towards women.Same rule applies to women.

I never stated a manner in which a woman would hit a man.. The conclusion your giving seems to of come out of your own head with no workings to your conclusion are given.

Society would deem it unacceptable which it clearly is, but religion can flaunt the laws and morals of society, many people of islamic faith who read these verses can interpret them as they see fit.. in my view thats very dangerous, and not just an islamic problem, but a religious problem full stop.

All religion is interpretation of ancient words, 'faith' and blind faith at that.. sadly many people suffer because of this, and I fail to see even with the good some religion does how in this day and age that anyone can believe these stories and let them dictate their lives. but it seems to favour those in the more powerful positions while keeping the oppressed exactly that.

there is no acceptable time for a person to commit violence against another, I do not care what the verse says or how little the weapon used is..
1 Like #38
farha786
Are you even aware of the domestic violence statistics?.The Qur'an gives guidelines for such men who would otherwise resort to violence.Why are you finding it so difficult to comprehend this? :)


National Statistics

1 in 3 women and 1 in 4 men have been victims of [some form of] physical violence by an intimate partner within their lifetime.

so not most men as you said.
2 Likes #39
Why would they need guidelines?, Why can't they seem to control their sexual urges either etc?.

I'm not religious in any way, However I wouldn't go around beating women, I wouldn't abuse children and not because it's against the law but because I respect women and children.
4 Likes #40
shauneco
Why would they need guidelines?, Why can't they seem to control their sexual urges either etc?.
I'm not religious in any way, However I wouldn't go around beating women, I wouldn't abuse children and not because it's against the law but because I respect women and children.

Exactly, its like there is this excuse just incase, written down, so they say

"Its OK guv, fair cop I was beating her with my toothbrush, but its OK coz thats not classed as harsh"

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