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Well the title might be a bit over exagerated :giggle: but anyway ive added a few extra hard drives etc to my PC and noticed its getting quite hot inside so wondered if anyone new any ways of cooling… Read More
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9y, 10m agoPosted 9 years, 10 months ago
Well the title might be a bit over exagerated :giggle: but anyway ive added a few extra hard drives etc to my PC and noticed its getting quite hot inside so wondered if anyone new any ways of cooling it down without spending too much money
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9y, 10m agoPosted 9 years, 10 months ago
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1 Like #1
Are the case cables neat together?, Rounded Ide cables/Small sata cables? etc, Its all about creating a good airflow, Cold air pulled in the front and the warm air to exit out the rear.

How many fans are in the pc at the moment and were are they situated?
1 Like #2
Based on the thread title I was gonna tell you to p#ss on it or bring the hose in from your back garden....
#3
Ive got one fan on the back of the case but i cant see any holes too mount another one.
The cables inside are a bit messy what the best thing to use to tie them all together?

Based on the thread title I was gonna tell you to p#ss on it or bring the hose in from your back garden....
:giggle:
#4
ryancs
The cables inside are a bit messy what the best thing to use to tie them all together?


Cable ties :thumbsup:

How many fans at the front and what style is the case?
#5
well im abit embarrassed about my case its a real cheapy one... after spending lots of money on the guts i didnt have much left for the exterior.

No it hasnt got a fan at the front.
#6
I wouldn't be embarrased about the case, Its something to house the computer components thats all!, I don't look a my pc very often at all!, Its bog standard beige!, lol!

I'd say lack of case fans are the problem for sure!
#7
yep thats what i was thinking but as ive said before i cant seem to find any mounting holes to add another one:thumbsup:
#8
ryancs
yep thats what i was thinking but as ive said before i cant seem to find any mounting holes to add another one:thumbsup:


If you've got the flat space on the rear drill out new holes and buy a fan grill bit (Although with the components out of the case, Metal shaving would create shorting out etc!)

All stick a fan By the HDD's to remove heat and shift it towards the back of the case.
#9
If you've got the flat space on the rear drill out new holes and buy a fan grill bit (Although with the components out of the case, Metal shaving would create shorting out etc!)


well theres not much space at the back so i may aswell go for a new case any recommendations i know that antecs are good if so which one. Im on a budget sooo.....

Thanks
#10
Antec is good, But their normally expensive.

The cheapy Ebuyer range is good and not that bad.

I like this one : http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/99457

Or : http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/115480

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/127102

Etc, Ebuyer seem to do a great range of budget cases.
1 Like #11
Definately want to be either getting a new case or modding your current one to install some fans, with multiple HDD (especially IDE) you really want forced airflow from the front to the back. You wouldn't regret buying an Antec case (remember it might cost a bit but will last several upgrades if you choose so, personally I love the Sonata's as they look smart and are very, very quiet and well built, or the P180/P182s are ever better, but the cheaper NSK models are also very well built and you should be able to find something for around £30). Cheaper cases are okay but they have much thinner steel so are more flimsy and often pretty poor fan mounts (small holes when a big hole+grill is far, far better etc). Ebuyer are a pretty good place to start looking (especially if you can make use of the free delivery on orders over £50).


'Good and not that bad' Iom - lol :-D (know what you mean though)
banned 1 Like #12
What case isit? is it like a dell or somthing?
#13
jah128
'Good and not that bad' Iom - lol :-D (know what you mean though)


As you say the cheaper cases are thinner metal so expect to get cut to bits though!
#14
Ha i was just going to ask what you all thought of the sonata II case.
Thanks for the recommendations iom. At the moment its either a new case or a new monitor grr decisions decisions:thinking:
#15
I never have been able to justify more than £30 for a case TBH, I don't tend to look at my pc as its just a machine, The expensive cases do look smart and are well built but unless your look at it like a pc of art or are constantly upgrading bits its just not worth it IMO!

IMHO i'd get a new monitor and a cheapie case!
#16
hmm yes good point i think ill just sort out all the messy wires in the case buy the moniter and see how i go from there.
The cheapest price for the antec is £52.23 deliverd which i dont think is too bad.
#17
How are the HDD's mounted, Is there much room between them?
#18
theres a good space between them its amazing really how 2 extra hard drives can add so much heat
#19
I used to just buy cheaper cases too, but bought an Antec Plusview (several years ago now) and haven't really gone back to cheap cases since, the way I see it is a CPU or graphics card that costs £100 today is worth £25 in two years, whereas a case that costs £100 today will still be about the same in 2 years, although I concede that functionally there isn't much difference. Got an Antec Fusion at the moment (HTPC style case) and whilst it was pretty expensive I reckon it was worth every penny...

Each hard drive is uses roughly 10 watts of power, so thats effectively 20 watts of heat in the confined space at the front of the case. Its commonly accepted that a 10 degree rise in temperature above optimal can halve a components expected life (certainly holds true for hard discs) so when running more than one in a confined space some form of forced cooling is very desirable.
#20
ryancs
Ha i was just going to ask what you all thought of the sonata II case.
Thanks for the recommendations iom. At the moment its either a new case or a new monitor grr decisions decisions:thinking:


3 internal hdds seems a bit OTT these days with 500gb drives available for under £60...or have you huge storage requirements.....some HDDs run hotter than others so with three you should have researched to find the coolest on the market...having said that you do require better cooling as advised.

I run a raid 0 system but have three fans which keep the interns of the case really cool...but a quality case does pay dividends and I would upgrade in that dept as a priority....good luck.
#21
Get it sorted asap, I burnt one of my hdd's out because it was too hot. But my PC seems to have a magnet to dust and ****.
#22
so what are we saying i should go for the case or is it a matter of preference
#23
To be fair, if you have enough space, put your hard-drive in an external case. I think you should only have 2+ hard-drives if you have water cooling or heavy duty fans because my CPU is currently touching 59'C.

Plus its easier to keep a room colder than it is inside a small box sometimes.
#24
my CPU is currently touching 59'C.

Wow mines no where near that hot i think you need to get something sorted before me
#25
lol. its not too bad now.
it was at 59'c earlier, just because my room has a ridiculous amount of power intake.

heres it now;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/JamesTerror/cpu.jpg

im not intendting to hijack your thread :whistling:

But it may be good for me to pick up advice on cooling :)
#26
Mines running at
Core1 : 34c
Core2 : 41c
GFX: 48c
#27
James - Removing the cpu heatsink, giving it a good clean and reapply a decent thermal compound will generally sort out your CPU heat (although for many chips such as P4 3GHz+ 59 degrees is nothing to worry about). Arctic Silver is excellent, if very expensive (about a fiver for a small syringe!).

Ryan - Its your call obviously, personally I'd buy a good new case like the Sonata but if you are really cash strapped get a cheap one and plenty of case fans. Also spend a bit of time routing the cables as neatly as possible (using rounded cables if the are IDE drives). You cpu cooler is working fine so its really a question of making a good forced airflow path through the case to cool the drives and motherboard components.
#28
Ryan - Its your call obviously, personally I'd buy a good new case like the Sonata but if you are really cash strapped get a cheap one and plenty of case fans. Also spend a bit of time routing the cables as neatly as possible (using rounded cables if the are IDE drives).


Thats what im going to do i think. All the cables in side are sata its just the psu wires that are a right mess. i really like the look of the sonata so think i might go for it. id rather buy 1 decent case than 2 cheapys. Does anyone know where i can get it as cheap as possible £53.83 is the best i can get

Thanks for all your help everyone
#29
That sounds a good price to me ;-) Check the usual suspects (ebuyer, scan, dabs, aria, microdirect, komplett, lambda-tek, overclockers etc) but I doubt you will find it for much less than that.
#30
Heres a link have you heard of them
#31
Cheers. I'll probably give it a good clean up because a new PC is in order soon. This is 3 years old and isn't worth upgrading to keep up with gaming. Its shoddy as it is now lol.
#32
wow what a difference sorting out all the cable does... ive just spent half an hour with a few tie wraps tieing all those loose wires etc and its gone from running at 36c to 28c amazing really thanks for all the advice people:thumbsup:
#33
And I thought by the title the pc would look like this by now

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s75/jonathandance/2333-2.jpg
#34
lol i said i over exagerated.....
#35
ryancs
wow what a difference sorting out all the cable does... ive just spent half an hour with a few tie wraps tieing all those loose wires etc and its gone from running at 36c to 28c amazing really thanks for all the advice people:thumbsup:


28c is V good! :)

Saw that deal for the Sonata II case for £50 on here with a 450w PSU, Is a bargain!!! :thumbsup:

(I spent £20 on my cheapie case and £50 on the PSU itself! :giggle: )
#36
i bought a couple of antec fans for the meantime while i wait to get paid..then ill get the case:thumbsup: im determined to get it icy cold in there haha
#37
now running at......wait for it........20c:prop: :santa: haha
#38
If you want to keep the hard drives cool then you want to get a case with a front fan. :)

I agree with people that forking out a bit of cash on a decent case is a money well spent - at the end of the day your components will run cooler, last longer and a good case looks the business too!

I have an Antec Nine Hundred myself and it was well worth every penny. It's meant to be one of the better/best cases in terms of cooling so it might be worth checking out.
#39
Matt-Kun
If you want to keep the hard drives cool then you want to get a case with a front fan. :)

I agree with people that forking out a bit of cash on a decent case is a money well spent - at the end of the day your components will run cooler, last longer and a good case looks the business too!

I have an Antec Nine Hundred myself and it was well worth every penny. It's meant to be one of the better/best cases in terms of cooling so it might be worth checking out.


Thanks for the info but i would prefer to get the sonata as its a little more suttle:giggle: and yes ive just fitted a 120mm fan on the front of the case works a treat:thumbsup:

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