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If the Nation is "Booming",there should be no need for this !

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2y, 5m agoPosted 2 years, 5 months ago
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What a sad sorry state of affairs, 2014 and local councillors are doing sponsored walks to Boost local food banks !
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banned 2 Likes #2
Doesn't matter how well a country is doing, there will always be poor and poverty stricken people.


"What a sad sorry state of affairs, 2014 and local councillors are doing sponsored walks to Boost local food banks !"

Would you rather them not raise money for the food banks? Sorry I'm just struggling to understand how you managed to put a negative twist on this story. Do you work for the Daily Mail?
1 Like #3
Blackburn :|

/thread
2 Likes #5
Food banks just allow people on benefits to spend more on iPhone contracts, fags and booze.
3 Likes #6
the nation is booming? Since when? oO
#7
but Cameron says the rise in foodbank use just means we are opening more food banks.

I agree, but if you will now excuse me as my medication from the potato king has just arrived and the magic carpet does not wait around all day.
4 Likes #8
Chiptivo
Food banks just allow people on benefits to spend more on iPhone contracts, fags and booze.

Thats harsh
banned 12 Likes #9
If we paid a living wage then none of this would be necessary.

We get the sarcastic comments above when the real scroungers in this country are the millionaire bankers, the dodgy politicians, the morally corrupt business owners using zero hour contracts who don't pay tax, not those at the bottom of the food chain.

http://www.livingwage.org.uk/
1 Like #10
chocci
the nation is booming? Since when? oO

Since the free owl for everyone party left office
1 Like #11
toshapetriji
If we paid a living wage then none of this would be necessary.

We get the sarcastic comments above when the real scroungers in this country are the millionaire bankers, the dodgy politicians, the morally corrupt business owners using zero hour contracts who don't pay tax, not those at the bottom of the food chain.

http://www.livingwage.org.uk/

Also let us not forget that when the government state the "Nation is booming" they are talking about London and the south - that's one major reason why Scotland wants independence.
#12
philphil61
toshapetriji
If we paid a living wage then none of this would be necessary.

We get the sarcastic comments above when the real scroungers in this country are the millionaire bankers, the dodgy politicians, the morally corrupt business owners using zero hour contracts who don't pay tax, not those at the bottom of the food chain.

http://www.livingwage.org.uk/

Also let us not forget that when the government state the "Nation is booming" they are talking about London and the south - that's one major reason why Scotland wants independence.


North South divide, as always.
banned#13
philphil61
toshapetriji
If we paid a living wage then none of this would be necessary.

We get the sarcastic comments above when the real scroungers in this country are the millionaire bankers, the dodgy politicians, the morally corrupt business owners using zero hour contracts who don't pay tax, not those at the bottom of the food chain.

http://www.livingwage.org.uk/

Also let us not forget that when the government state the "Nation is booming" they are talking about London and the south - that's one major reason why Scotland wants independence.

so the scots want to say everywhere else is booming but as per usual we are failing :|
#14
Can confirm Gloucestershire is booming especially the housing market .
#15
Can confirm North West England is booming, especially in the manufacturing industry.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/land-rover-discovery-sport-production-7297578
Land Rover Halewood Liverpool - 4000 new jobs, 3 shifts and the plant running 24 hours.
Vauxhall - Ellesmere Port - New model to be built, securing thousands of new jobs and more shifts.
Birkenhead - Main European Distribution Centre for car parts and assembly.

I am amazed that the simple approach of this current government of being serious about the economy has tempted lots of major companies and rich people to come here and invest.
Long may it continue.
banned 2 Likes #16
Chiptivo
Can confirm North West England is booming, especially in the manufacturing industry.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/land-rover-discovery-sport-production-7297578
Land Rover Halewood Liverpool - 4000 new jobs, 3 shifts and the plant running 24 hours.
Vauxhall - Ellesmere Port - New model to be built, securing thousands of new jobs and more shifts.
Birkenhead - Main European Distribution Centre for car parts and assembly.

I am amazed that the simple approach of this current government of being serious about the economy has tempted lots of major companies and rich people to come here and invest.
Long may it continue.

You realise the national debt is still going up do you? 1.2 trillion and still climbing.
#17
toshapetriji


You realise the national debt is still going up do you? 1.2 trillion and still climbing.

Unfortunately we have to pay interest on the debt the previous government left us.
My understanding is that the interest payments alone are the same cost to us than building a school or hospital every week!!! Imagine what we could have done and all the jobs that could have been created with all the interest payments...

:(

However we are seeing some great shoots of recovery, imagine what he national debt would currently been the previous lot stayed in for another term without the austerity measures and assurances to global investors.

Edited By: Chiptivo on Jun 21, 2014 13:43
banned#18
Chiptivo
toshapetriji


You realise the national debt is still going up do you? 1.2 trillion and still climbing.

Unfortunately we have to pay interest on the debt the previous government left us.
My understanding is that the interest payments alone are the same cost to us than building a school or hospital every week!!! Imagine what we could have done and all the jobs that could have been created with all the interest payments...

:(

However we are seeing some great shoots of recovery, imagine what he national debt would currently been the previous lot stayed in for another term without the austerity measures and assurances to global investors.

I don't disagree with you, under Labour it would surely be more appalling however OP mentions 'booming' I don't think we are.
#19
toshapetriji


I don't disagree with you, under Labour it would surely be more appalling however OP mentions 'booming' I don't think we are.

booming is a poor choice of words. But there are some great shoots of recovery all over the place, we just need some positive feeling and less negativity.

We are GREAT BRITAIN.
banned#20
Chiptivo
toshapetriji


I don't disagree with you, under Labour it would surely be more appalling however OP mentions 'booming' I don't think we are.

booming is a poor choice of words. But there are some great shoots of recovery all over the place, we just need some positive feeling and less negativity.

We are GREAT BRITAIN.

no "we" are not :p
#21
whatsThePoint
Chiptivo
toshapetriji


I don't disagree with you, under Labour it would surely be more appalling however OP mentions 'booming' I don't think we are.

booming is a poor choice of words. But there are some great shoots of recovery all over the place, we just need some positive feeling and less negativity.

We are GREAT BRITAIN.

no "we" are not :p

Your username on here sums up your view and attitude.. :(
1 Like #22
I agree, there is nothing "Great" about this country, not any more. As for food banks, they are for the most part a joke, as has already been stated they are mostly used to allow the scroungers more to spend on beer cigs and the latest mobile phone deals.
banned#23
Chiptivo
whatsThePoint
Chiptivo
toshapetriji


I don't disagree with you, under Labour it would surely be more appalling however OP mentions 'booming' I don't think we are.

booming is a poor choice of words. But there are some great shoots of recovery all over the place, we just need some positive feeling and less negativity.

We are GREAT BRITAIN.

no "we" are not :p

Your username on here sums up your view and attitude.. :(

you do realise i'm not in gb, oh wait, somehow you've managed to miss me mentioning it :|
1 Like #24
Considering your view and attitude towards those on benefits you are in no position to judge

Chiptivo
whatsThePoint
Chiptivo
toshapetriji


I don't disagree with you, under Labour it would surely be more appalling however OP mentions 'booming' I don't think we are.

booming is a poor choice of words. But there are some great shoots of recovery all over the place, we just need some positive feeling and less negativity.

We are GREAT BRITAIN.

no "we" are not :p

Your username on here sums up your view and attitude.. :(
banned 1 Like #25
059
I agree, there is nothing "Great" about this country, not any more. As for food banks, they are for the most part a joke, as has already been stated they are mostly used to allow the scroungers more to spend on beer cigs and the latest mobile phone deals.

You have some proof of this of course? care to share it?
#26
The only way to ever make the nation "boom" as a collective is through easy credit - which levels the playing field out somewhat. We have seen this and it can occur for a few years but takes generations to pay off.

The tiered system of wealth, high wealth (the few) to low wealth (the many) is just how the system should operate. What other system is there? Should a cleaner get the same as a doctor? Should a footballer get more than a nurse? Should everyone get the same? - To some extent the market decides.

As for Great Britain, we don't allow ourselves to be great - It all started in the 1950's closing vast swathes of the railways (more reliance on road yet we let our car manufacturing die), then closing the pits (more reliance on Russia and middle eastern oil), then selling off network rail/government land land (All well selling it but there were no housing development stipulations) then through to the Gold Gordon Brown sold (Funded stupid millennium projects).

I suppose the overall problem is we don't have 'Great' people leading 'Great Britain". We have people with vested interests and instituitions that have existed for a long time that are somewhat out of date to the collective thinking - i.e our main political parties.





Edited By: super_leeds_86 on Jun 21, 2014 17:11
#27
toshapetriji
Chiptivo
toshapetriji


You realise the national debt is still going up do you? 1.2 trillion and still climbing.

Unfortunately we have to pay interest on the debt the previous government left us.
My understanding is that the interest payments alone are the same cost to us than building a school or hospital every week!!! Imagine what we could have done and all the jobs that could have been created with all the interest payments...

:(

However we are seeing some great shoots of recovery, imagine what he national debt would currently been the previous lot stayed in for another term without the austerity measures and assurances to global investors.

I don't disagree with you, under Labour it would surely be more appalling however OP mentions 'booming' I don't think we are.

Spain has a 26 perc unemployment rate, so we are booming at 7.5 perc, plus uk currency is doing well.
Agree with you that some areas of society are struggling, i.e. those on benefits
#28
toshapetriji
If we paid a living wage then none of this would be necessary.

We get the sarcastic comments above when the real scroungers in this country are the millionaire bankers, the dodgy politicians, the morally corrupt business owners using zero hour contracts who don't pay tax, not those at the bottom of the food chain.

http://www.livingwage.org.uk/


Spot on!
#29
lumsdot
toshapetriji
Chiptivo
toshapetriji


You realise the national debt is still going up do you? 1.2 trillion and still climbing.

Unfortunately we have to pay interest on the debt the previous government left us.
My understanding is that the interest payments alone are the same cost to us than building a school or hospital every week!!! Imagine what we could have done and all the jobs that could have been created with all the interest payments...

:(

However we are seeing some great shoots of recovery, imagine what he national debt would currently been the previous lot stayed in for another term without the austerity measures and assurances to global investors.

I don't disagree with you, under Labour it would surely be more appalling however OP mentions 'booming' I don't think we are.

Spain has a 26 perc unemployment rate, so we are booming at 7.5 perc, plus uk currency is doing well.
Agree with you that some areas of society are struggling, i.e. those on benefits

That 7.5% is rubbish though, if you work 4 hours then how does that enable you to do anything?!

The figure we should give is percentage of people that are net contributors, i.e those who give in taxes than they take in rebates and benefits.
#30
A couple of questions -

Is every poor person on Earth poor by choice and not through unforeseeable or uncontrollable circumstances?

Additionally, should society protect said people from environmental, genetic and social stressors (ill health, etc.) when possible?
3 Likes #31
I read this today on twitter.

The unemployed make up 2.6% of the welfare bill.
21% of benefits goto people in work.
17 billion pounds worth of benefits go unclaimed every year.
64% of families receive benefits.
93% of housing benefit claims in the last 4 years were made by people in work.
Our housing costs are the 3rd highest in Europe.
We spend 12% less per head on benefits then france does and 19% less then germany.
2 Likes #32
KillFelix
Doesn't matter how well a country is doing, there will always be poor and poverty stricken people.


"What a sad sorry state of affairs, 2014 and local councillors are doing sponsored walks to Boost local food banks !"

Would you rather them not raise money for the food banks? Sorry I'm just struggling to understand how you managed to put a negative twist on this story. Do you work for the Daily Mail?

Sorry, i think you may have gotten the wrong end of the stick. I am implying that it is a sad state of affairs that our nation has actually resorted to this ! I live in Blackburn, I'm not a Daily Mail reader looking down on the poor, I live in a poor Town.

I think it's disgusting that our Government repeatedly tell us the nation is nearing recovery and we will all live happily ever after with extortionate house prices, when people can't afford to eat.

I regularly donate to food banks when I shop. Once upon a time we raised funds for poor nations and people in need. Today, we raise funds for our own poor Towns and people in need. That is what I find sad.

Edited By: logie31 on Jun 21, 2014 20:38
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toshapetriji
Chiptivo
toshapetriji


You realise the national debt is still going up do you? 1.2 trillion and still climbing.

Unfortunately we have to pay interest on the debt the previous government left us.
My understanding is that the interest payments alone are the same cost to us than building a school or hospital every week!!! Imagine what we could have done and all the jobs that could have been created with all the interest payments...

:(

However we are seeing some great shoots of recovery, imagine what he national debt would currently been the previous lot stayed in for another term without the austerity measures and assurances to global investors.

I don't disagree with you, under Labour it would surely be more appalling however OP mentions 'booming' I don't think we are.

I don't think we are "Booming" either, that is why I hyphenated the word. Far from it, as my link proves. Many will blame the last Government, they always do, look at Labour when they gained power, still blaming Thatcher !

The next Government should concentrate less on blame, and more on their people.
1 Like #34
The UK as a whole may not be 'booming', but some areas definitely are.
#35
I know there are people in genuine need and I am always prepared to assist them if possible.
The thing that really annoys me are those that jump on the bandwagon without need and tar the case of the real people who are experiencing hard times

An example i am referring to is a 20 something guy who regularly walks past my house. He goes up to mainly women asking for spare change. Also every time he sees someone getting into a car he bangs on the window and does the same. Yesterday he was there again, this time carrying a can of beer at the time but still feeling perfectly within his rights to hassle anyone for change.
1 Like #36
Sorry, i think you may have gotten the wrong end of the stick. I am implying that it is a sad state of affairs that our nation has actually resorted to this ! I live in Blackburn, I'm not a Daily Mail reader looking down on the poor, I live in a poor Town.

Be careful, as if you read the article it does state "Labour" councillors. Yes food banks are desperately required, but it feels like a political ploy to highlight the Labour agenda and message.

I think it's disgusting that our Government repeatedly tell us the nation is nearing recovery and we will all live happily ever after with extortionate house prices, when people can't afford to eat.

It's mainly to keep consumer and foreign market confidence high. Otherwise any hint of a financial slow down could have detrimental affect on investment, low interest rates, and our credit ratings (AA+ to AAA). If this happens our repayment costs to the long term debt (ten year bonds) of roughly £1.4 Trillion Pounds (£6 Trillion with pension deficit) could sharply increase, as in the case happened with Italy, Spain, Ireland, Portugal, and Greece. So taxes would either need to be raised, or go cap in hand to the IMF which would add strict guidelines to the loans.

Of course most of the consumers, and market experts are not duped and know the true living cost, but it's the psychological aspect of confidence, and keeping up appearances.

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If the Nation is "Booming",there should be no need for this !

Part of the problem is that the expense of food has dramatically increased since 2007, with food inflation reaching over ten percent yearly. These figures are hidden through official inflation figures including rent, clothing, and utility prices. As the supermarket chains have failed to expand their international market share to continue, to increase their profits, supplier margins been cut, and consumer prices have sky rocketed. The concern is that the governments, both Conservative and Labour have failed in their duty to investigate and crack down on their illegal monopolistic price fixing and special offer practises. Until then food prices will continue to rise rapidly, meaning people on the breadline will struggle to feed themselves.

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