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Bryan839 Avatar
9y, 3m agoPosted 9 years, 3 months ago
Hi everyone

Well I had my A Level results today, but now Im stuck on what to do next. I dont want to go to university. I am thinking about studying interactive computer media in college but dont know yet.

So Im just wondering what job opputunities I have in computing, anything really, I havnt got a clue. There are so many different jobs in ICT!

Any advice on what ICT careers are good, and how easy are they to get into lol.

I had a A* in ICT in GCSE and a B in A level.

Thanks :thumbsup:
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9y, 3m agoPosted 9 years, 3 months ago
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#1
lol Im actually in the same situation, with the same grade and from the same place as you are:giggle:
#2
Mojopin
lol Im actually in the same situation, with the same grade and from the same place as you are:giggle:


lol, really? where too
banned#3
bin the idea of uni- far too many surplus of graduates with few jobs

i graduated in law 10 yrs ago where there were fewer graduates- now the education sys is a joke- virtually giving away degreesthe only way forward is self employment

i only manage to secure my future by working for myself- i own my law firm

work exp is vital in todays age!
#4
If you want to move into something general like Administrator/Techie etc etc it's best to do an apprentership. Just do a basic one, it's literally just to get you a job because you'll have little to no hope getting one as you stand now unfortunatly.

I finished college with a BTEC higher national diploma for computer studies/networking and couldn't get a job. Done a lower level apprentership and had 3 jobs available to me (**** pay at first, but it was a level 2 and I had achieved a level 3 at college, so completed it in under 6 months and was on full pay)

Now I have worked there 2 years, I can apply for a lot more jobs as 2 years is usually what employers look for.

Of corse you might get lucky, or know someone who can get you in someplace, but Work Experience is way more important than any Certificate I have found!

Employers don't mind teaching you the skills once you have the job, what they really want is someone who is capable of learning and doing a job. and work experience shows this!

ROKO
work exp is vital in todays age!
#5
Right, I'm hopefully going to spend a bit of time here giving you some sound advice!

Firstly, I will tell you a quick bit about myself. I'm 26, graduated in 2004 with a degree in Computing: Internet and Multimedia. It took me five years to get through Uni, because I failed Second year and third year and had to repeat each one.

The reason I failed was because I really didn't want to be there, and thought it was too easy and pointless. Today, I'm working for the NHS in IT and Telecoms. I actually 'do' Video Conferencing. I'm sometimes asked to sit in on interviews, because i'm a good judge of character and have a lot of experience in interviews!

I know for a fact that anyone recruiting in the IT/ICT department won't look for anyone without minimum HND. It's there on the minimum requirements, with degree desirable. We pay pretty rubbish but still expect to see some further education on there. Fact

So if I was you, I would go to Uni. Yes, I hated it and thought it was worthless at the time, but you won't get anywhere fast without it. You will work for five years and gain 'better' experience, but IMHO the piece of paper is well worth it.

Try and go for something quite diverse. You will find most of the foundation years are the same, then specialise a bit in second year. Try and keep your options as open as poss for as long as poss, till you decide what to do. Go do some work experience. Most companies will happily have you in their workplace for a day as long as it doesn't cost them anything!

And most of all, be ambitious ;o)
#6
bazzaric
I know for a fact that anyone recruiting in the IT/ICT department won't look for anyone without minimum HND. It's there on the minimum requirements, with degree desirable. We pay pretty rubbish but still expect to see some further education on there. Fact

So if I was you, I would go to Uni. Yes, I hated it and thought it was worthless at the time, but you won't get anywhere fast without it. You will work for five years and gain 'better' experience, but IMHO the piece of paper is well worth it.

Try and go for something quite diverse. You will find most of the foundation years are the same, then specialise a bit in second year. Try and keep your options as open as poss for as long as poss, till you decide what to do. Go do some work experience. Most companies will happily have you in their workplace for a day as long as it doesn't cost them anything!

And most of all, be ambitious ;o)


I have to disagree there :p

Every job I looked at in ICT wanted a HND (some didn't) and at least 2 years experience (nearly all wanted this)
#7
Thanks to everyone so far, really good advice, well I dont think I will be able to go to uni if I wanted this year cause I have missed the deadline I think, so will have to apply for next year. How do you get an apprentership?
#8
Bryan839
Thanks to everyone so far, really good advice, well I dont think I will be able to go to uni if I wanted this year cause I have missed the deadline I think, so will have to apply for next year. How do you get an apprentership?


erm I found one through a few friends who had quit 6th form early and went onto that instead.

The one i went to advertised in the local paper, so check out those or yellow pages etc

The council or job centre should have details of any local places too you to.

This is ognna be the hardest part for you now, so don't give up!!

Took me a while but you finally land your first proper job! I took somehting completely different to computers in the end (I got a job in electronics from my apprentership, building interview recorders for the police etc) so you might find you have a wide range of jobs available to you.

You will find the majority of the jobs offered are School IT departments though, but you can also contact companies and see if they are interested in taking you on for an aprentership programme!

As I said **** money at first, mine was £60 a week and travel expenses (it was £40 minimum but depends on kind your employer might be) But it took me about 6 months to do this "2 year course" so it's ideal for you if you are waiting a year for uni.

You never know you might find something you like that you never thought about like me :thumbsup:
#9
Go to uni.

Im 24, graduated last year september, with 0 experience (not even a retail shop !!). I applied for jobs and got a job in the City of London as a Consultant. Was I lucky ? slightly ... but I wouldnt have got the job if it was not due to my BSc and MSc (Distinction) on the CV. Yes, there are are more graduates than jobs but you need to stand out and thats by going to a good university and getting good grades - then you will be ahead of the rest. Its quite simple really.

Im now travelling all over EMEA consulting for a blue chip companies ... and this is with less than 1 year of experience all my life !

Its not just a piece of paper, thats what I once thought. Its something no one can ever take away from you and you feel proud once you come out on top.

Good luck.
#10
bazzaric


So if I was you, I would go to Uni. Yes, I hated it and thought it was worthless at the time, but you won't get anywhere fast without it. You will work for five years and gain 'better' experience, but IMHO the piece of paper is well worth it.



Typical of everyone who has a degree. :roll:
#11
I have a 2:1 Bsc Hons in IT & think it was a waste of time & didn't contribute at all to my job hunting.

I left uni & could not find a decent job at all. I ended up going to work for a mate of mine who had his own data/telecom/network company. It was only a few days a week & although I enjoyed it, I wanted something more stable.

I was pissed off at only working a few days a week so opted out & got a job in a call centre (this is after 21 years of schooling.......).

I was only on the phones for a few months & seen a job on the intranet as a Data Analyst, so went for that. I got that job & stayed there another 12 months (basic pay).

By then I was pretty bored, so (while drunk), applied for a job as a Business Support Analyst (6k pay rise from previous job). I was sent onsite to a mobile phone company where I worked on thier billing system (from knowing nothing about it at all), and stayed there for 2 years.

I seen a job come up on the testing team of the company I was working on site for, and applied for that, as I had 2 years softcoding the system that was needing testing !). Applied for this & got the job I'm in today (12k pay rise over previous job).

I'm now happy in my job but see actual experience a lot more beneficial than a degree - plus it's who you know & not what you know in most cases !!


I'd like to thank myself for getting drunk the night I applied for my 3rd job - without those several cans of lager, I wouldnt be where I am today :)
#12
Thanks, I am going to leave the uni idea for now, and guess what job I have applied for, T-mobile call centre retentions or customer services department. Hope I get it, but doubt it. Worth a try though. My CV is rubbish, I dont know what to include, I just put my name and address and my qualifications, I have no experience or past jobs.
#13
Personal qualities

Skills

Attributes

Interests

You'll soon build it up !!!
#14
ChrisUK
Personal qualities

Skills

Attributes

Interests

You'll soon build it up !!!


Thanks, I really dont know what to put in them, got any examples?

Thanks :thumbsup:
#15
IT Skills (List them i.e. Microsoft Office competent, and DTP programs, programming skills, Windows variations you've been on, email etc)

Other skills (Any other attributes that you have i.e. can speak multiple languages, life experience etc)

Personal qualities (good timekeeper, eager to learn etc)

Interests (like to travel, read, go the gym, sporting player etc)
#16
just say you have worked on a paper round, or in supermarkets or have done private work for family or friends.

Any of those show you have at least put some effort in during your life time when it comes to work!
#17
ps - use a nice font & set it out so it looks good & set out like:

Personal details (Name, address, phone, DOB, email etc)





Education (most recent 1st, in order of Uni, College, Secondary school) - include dates



Under college list A Levels


Under secondary school list GCSE's


Employment history (again most recent 1st - this may not apply to you yet, but useful to know)


Then list your skills, interests etc as above

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#18
ROKO
bin the idea of uni- far too many surplus of graduates with few jobs

i graduated in law 10 yrs ago where there were fewer graduates- now the education sys is a joke- virtually giving away degreesthe only way forward is self employment

i only manage to secure my future by working for myself- i own my law firm

work exp is vital in todays age!


To be honest that's a pretty negative view. Law is a very complexed subject so depending on what you went into and if you got your degree did you not get a good job or something?

Self employment is good, if you have the idea and money.
#19
Also lets not forget many companies have graduate schemes which you can only get into with a degree.
#20
SK07

Self employment is good, if you have the idea and money.


You dont really need either of those
#21
I started in the call centre where I am now and have moved up in the company.

The main attribute call centres look for is skills or attributes around communication, e.g any examples of listening, talking with the public. As you said though you may not have the required experience just big yourself up though using experience in college, maybe demostrations you had to do etc. Once at the interview its just about showing willingness. If you get the job you can then look at IT jobs within.
#22
hotdealing
Also lets not forget many companies have graduate schemes which you can only get into with a degree.


I must have applied for about 100 of these - everyone unsuccessful, there were too many graduates.......
#23
ChrisUK
I must have applied for about 100 of these - everyone unsuccessful, there were too many graduates.......


plus what is the point, when you can do it 4 or 5 years earlier at a college apprentership.

my company has just signed up to a scheme and the government is paying us £75,000 for 2 years to take on one uni graduate!

That's how screwed up the education system is lol

My friends are just leaving uni, and I now have my first house and a nice job. (which I can move out of if I want, as I now have over 2 years experience)
banned#24
everyone has skills- getting shopping for the old lady down the street is a skill in itsels!- communication, literacy, numeracy skills etc etc......
#25
Wow.. um.. are you my indentical twin or sumfin? lol. I'm 21.. just finished my first year of a part time hnc in college, with no experience, and I just finished my a levels in december (still awaiting certificates but I know i've passed).

Job hunting is quite daunting I've had no luck whatsoever. I would really like to get in a technical support type job. I wouldnt mind starting a job now and then come september when I get back to college I try to juggle my job and my studies at the same time. Maybe thats a thought for u... a HNC in college, I'm doing it part time over the course of two years, but most colleges can do it full time which lasts a year.

With all these unsucessful attempts at job hunting I'm actually looking into opening my own cyber cafe business.

Zak.
#26
Im a recent graduate and I hold a high 2:1 honours in a Multimedia discipline. I graduated in July and have been looking seriously since early June. Almost 3 months on and im still jobless! In todays screwed up and utterly unfair world, life is all about contacts and experience. Without it, your screwed.

After 4 years stuck in uni working my ass off like one of coal-miners of yesteryear, Im beginning to think it's been a complete waste. All it tells employers is that im a good and comitted worker, but thats only half the picture... You gotta paint the other half all on your lonesome and without any paint.

It's unfair that someone like me (completed ALL of high school and walked away with several highers, good uni degree, several awards and certificates) can find it so hard even just to acquire a low-mid pay job that someone who dropped out of high school already has... Again, that's life... It's bitter, and as it might sound im getting to my wits end...

I've been trying to hold off for a decent pay (~£14k+) in an interesting IT related job. I've applied to near 100 different positions on several job sites, and im on job seekers allowance... I've had word back from only 1 company, and as it turns out they are crooks, so i gave them a miss.

Build a network of contacts to get you that first bit of experience... continue building the contacts and you can take it further - no need for a degree from college or uni... it's useless in today's day and age where employers are hiring Asians and Indians who work for less pay... It's making people like me suffer, and again...i cant help but feel so f'in bitter about it all.
#27
I felt like that mate - keep your chin up though & keep applying - see my earlier post, if I can do it then so can everyone else !
#28
It took me 5 months to get my first job after I got a uni equivalent degree (polytechnic in NZ). Experience seems to count for a lot but it's hard to get it unless someone gives you a chance.

Sometimes it's just a matter of being in the right place at the right time.

Computer technology is such a huge area - if you go for one particular language it might only be used in a few places. Whichever one you go for you can almost guarantee the market will be flooded with other people who know it...and have more experience...

If you go for a specialist area like WAP or SAP then they seem to want someone who has more experience than the language has actually been going for!

Good luck!

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