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cooleyes Avatar
5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
I have a few question from mods and other members if thay can help me in this .
If i deal with a person on this site and he agree with me on sale of the product and then put the product for sale on here (So we can go thru the sale on the forum to be secure ) he even send me the link of the product and then did't wait for my reply and sell it .
IS it Fair ? Do he have to give me a time or wait for my reply .

Thank you for other member and looking forward for a good reply coz this will happen with anyone coz no one is online 24 hrs a day .
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5y, 11m agoPosted 5 years, 11 months ago
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#1
Please answer this so i know where i stand and how to deal next time with anyone for Sale and Trade .

I don't say that i want that product but my question is where i am standing if i deal with anyone else with reserve terms or any other commitement .

Please need some help here

Edited By: cooleyes on Feb 04, 2011 22:42
#2
Well 'he' owns 'it' and has the right to sell it to whoever he so wishes ... life isn't always fair.
#3
DVS_Dee
Well 'he' owns 'it' and has the right to sell it to whoever he so wishes ... life isn't always fair.


thank you for your reply .
I understand that but
If 'he' ask me , If you are definite interested then I will put 'it' up a for sale post and reserve for you with pics . then ?

Do i have some priority so he can give me some time or wait for my reply ?

Edited By: cooleyes on Feb 04, 2011 22:56
#4
If you put a wanted ad in FS/FT for an item and someone pm'd you to say they had the item you wanted and then listed it, i would of thought they would give you first refusal, like you say not everyone is on here 24/7.
#5
How long between him saying he will put it on until you replied? If you left it ages then he was fine, he can sell it to whoever anyway but it is usually polite to offer you first refusal if they have put it up for FS
#6
It would be polite and good manners to reserve it for you for a certain amount of time, but a seller can sell to whoever he/she wants. So they aren't breaking any rules
#7
aunty jane
If you put a wanted ad in FS/FT for an item and someone pm'd you to say they had the item you wanted and then listed it, i would of thought they would give you first refusal, like you say not everyone is on here 24/7.


Someone put a Wanted ad and one user reply in that , he have the same item for sale but more price then the wanted ad so OP did't go for that . BUT I asked the user within 2hrs of his offer if he can contact me and then we can go ahead with the item .
#8
asayer
How long between him saying he will put it on until you replied? If you left it ages then he was fine, he can sell it to whoever anyway but it is usually polite to offer you first refusal if they have put it up for FS


Feb 1, 2011, 10:25PM
(PM INBOX :If you are definite interested then I will put up a for sale post and reserve for you with pics )
I reply with @ Feb 1, 2011, 11:39PM
(PM Sent :Yes i am interested , can do and any pic , so if all ok . you go ahead with my reserve as you said and i pay for it .)
I did't hear any word from the seller so i PM him again @ Feb 3, 2011, 10:22PM
(PM Sent : Hi , i did't get any reply back on iphone .)
Seller reply me @ Feb 3, 2011, 10:37PM
(PM INBOX :Believe it or not I am trying to get hold of a camera, the only camera I have is the one on my iphone. It should be sorted tomorrow if you are still interested?)
I repy @ Feb 3, 2011, 11:30PM
(PM Sent : Ok i am waiting for that . if your tell me this before so i know what is delay going for .)

Now at last he PM me @ Feb 4, 2011, 11:07AM
(PM INBOX : Please find link below , Link to the Sale Post )

As you can see its not 12 hrs passed yet . but he did't wait fro my reply and don't even mention anything .
#9
seems like the item you wanted has been sold to someone else, there are always iphones being sold on here so better luck for next time, its always better to have everything on a thread cuz if its done thru pm's you are breaking the rules of the fs/ft forum and therefore mods cant help.

Edited By: aunty jane on Feb 04, 2011 23:22
#10
cooleyes
asayer
How long between him saying he will put it on until you replied? If you left it ages then he was fine, he can sell it to whoever anyway but it is usually polite to offer you first refusal if they have put it up for FS


Feb 1, 2011, 10:25PM
(PM INBOX :If you are definite interested then I will put up a for sale post and reserve for you with pics )
I reply with @ Feb 1, 2011, 11:39PM
(PM Sent :Yes i am interested , can do and any pic , so if all ok . you go ahead with my reserve as you said and i pay for it .)
I did't hear any word from the seller so i PM him again @ Feb 3, 2011, 10:22PM
(PM Sent : Hi , i did't get any reply back on iphone .)
Seller reply me @ Feb 3, 2011, 10:37PM
(PM INBOX :Believe it or not I am trying to get hold of a camera, the only camera I have is the one on my iphone. It should be sorted tomorrow if you are still interested?)
I repy @ Feb 3, 2011, 11:30PM
(PM Sent : Ok i am waiting for that . if your tell me this before so i know what is delay going for .)

Now at last he PM me @ Feb 4, 2011, 11:07AM
(PM INBOX : Please find link below , Link to the Sale Post )

As you can see its not 12 hrs passed yet . but he did't wait fro my reply and don't even mention anything .


To be fair to the seller that was a little rude ^^

But that aside it is up to the seller who they sell too and like Aunty jane has said there are plenty of iphones for sale lately so hopefully you will get a different one soon :)

Edited By: Emzy81 on Feb 04, 2011 23:24
#11
Emzy81
It would be polite and good manners to reserve it for you for a certain amount of time, but a seller can sell to whoever he/she wants. So they aren't breaking any rules


Yes i Agree its his property and he can sell it to anyone but what if you asking him from 3 to 4 days and intouch with him and he put the product on sale after your 3 to 4 days request and PM you the link of it right after posting it so what does it mean ? he put this fopr me and did't wait for me ? did he think i won't buy it ? when the same seller on other buying post when buying stuff agree the same thing that i want this and PM me details and i will pay for that .
So does the fair Trade don't apply when he sell any product ? does it only work when he is buying any product from anyone else ?
#12
aunty jane
seems like the item you wanted has been sold to someone else, there are always iphones being sold on here so better luck for next time, its always better to have everything on a thread cuz if its done thru pm's you are breaking the rules of the fs/ft forum and therefore mods cant help.


I work with rules deal on forum 1st .
Here is thread where i asked the seller , it is deleted , thats why i am asking the reason .

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l550/cooleyes4u/Hotukdeal.jpg
#13
Emzy81
cooleyes
asayer
How long between him saying he will put it on until you replied? If you left it ages then he was fine, he can sell it to whoever anyway but it is usually polite to offer you first refusal if they have put it up for FS


Feb 1, 2011, 10:25PM
(PM INBOX :If you are definite interested then I will put up a for sale post and reserve for you with pics )
I reply with @ Feb 1, 2011, 11:39PM
(PM Sent :Yes i am interested , can do and any pic , so if all ok . you go ahead with my reserve as you said and i pay for it .)
I did't hear any word from the seller so i PM him again @ Feb 3, 2011, 10:22PM
(PM Sent : Hi , i did't get any reply back on iphone .)
Seller reply me @ Feb 3, 2011, 10:37PM
(PM INBOX :Believe it or not I am trying to get hold of a camera, the only camera I have is the one on my iphone. It should be sorted tomorrow if you are still interested?)
I repy @ Feb 3, 2011, 11:30PM
(PM Sent : Ok i am waiting for that . if your tell me this before so i know what is delay going for .)

Now at last he PM me @ Feb 4, 2011, 11:07AM
(PM INBOX : Please find link below , Link to the Sale Post )

As you can see its not 12 hrs passed yet . but he did't wait fro my reply and don't even mention anything .


To be fair to the seller that was a little rude ^^

But that aside it is up to the seller who they sell too and like Aunty jane has said there are plenty of iphones for sale lately so hopefully you will get a different one soon :)


I don't mind that iphone sale , you can check my feedback i just bought Iphone 4 week ago & its working fine . but my point is only i deal with him on forum then when he ready he put pictures send me post and and sold it without my wait of reply .
#14
I've read this Thread twice & I'm still lost oO
1 Like #15
I can't help with your dilemma but i read your posts with a "Tarzan" accent. :D
#16
aunty jane
seems like the item you wanted has been sold to someone else, there are always iphones being sold on here so better luck for next time, its always better to have everything on a thread cuz if its done thru pm's you are breaking the rules of the fs/ft forum and therefore mods cant help.


I did't ask mods to stop that sale but all i ask is was i not FAir that i asked him the pic to see the item in his possesion . he agree to put it on sale here with my reserve WHICH I AGREE and then he put it on sale like he said send me link 1st but did't wait for me to get in touch with him . when i wait for him for 3 days for to send me pictures or tell me that he don't have any camera to shot the pictures ?
#17
WheresMeNuts
I've read this Thread twice & I'm still lost oO


Someone offer product for sale i ask him for proff of it by pictures and he get back to me IF I AM REALY INTRESTED HE WILL PUT IT ON SALE HERE WITH MY RESERVE .
Now after 3 days he put it on send me link and did't wait for me to get in touch and sold the item .
#18
cooleyes
WheresMeNuts
I've read this Thread twice & I'm still lost oO


Someone offer product for sale i ask him for proff of it by pictures and he get back to me IF I AM REALY INTRESTED HE WILL PUT IT ON SALE HERE WITH MY RESERVE .
Now after 3 days he put it on send me link and did't wait for me to get in touch and sold the item .

And? It's Tough luck I'm afraid.
#19
Cooleyes just put it down to experience and dont deal with that person again, you did everything as you should, by the looks of things that phone had quite a few things wrong with it so maybe you had a lucky escape.
#20
aunty jane
Cooleyes just put it down to experience and dont deal with that person again, you did everything as you should, by the looks of things that phone had quite a few things wrong with it so maybe you had a lucky escape.


Yes that i think is a bad experience .
Don't mind paying asking price at 1st place but that was not fair if i deal without any proof and just in PM thats why i keep the records and agree if he puts with my reserve .
But asking only mods and other members hat why my posts are delete when i did't do anything wrong .
[mod]#21
cooleyes
[But asking only mods and other members hat why my posts are delete when i did't do anything wrong .

cooleyes, reviewing your deleted posts you first hijacked another members wanted thread and then started to negotiate a deal via PM. Whilst you may genuinely feel that you did nothing wrong unfortunately both of those actions are trade forum rule breaches.

Thread hijacking is prohibited - there is no feedback option if you do hijack another members thread and you should always start your own trade thread if you were interested in purchasing an item (posts hijacking another members thread are removed in accordance with forum rules). Re the PM dealing - unfortunately as there is no record of any negotiation within a trade thread then there is no record of any agreed sale. So unless we infract all the parties involved for the forum rule breaches it would perhaps be better to take the time to review the rules before any further trading and then try and follow them to help prevent further issues. Hope that helps clarify further.



Edited By: sigma on Feb 05, 2011 00:48
#22
sigma
cooleyes
[But asking only mods and other members hat why my posts are delete when i did't do anything wrong .

cooleyes, reviewing your deleted posts you first hijacked another members wanted thread and then started to negotiate a deal via PM. Whilst you may genuinely feel that you did nothing wrong unfortunately both of those actions are trade forum rule breaches.

Thread hijacking is prohibited - there is no feedback option if you do hijack another members thread and you should always start your own trade thread if you were interested in purchasing an item (posts hijacking another members thread are removed in accordance with forum rules). Re the PM dealing - unfortunately as there is no record of any negotiation within a trade thread then there is no record of any agreed sale. So unless we infract all the parties involved for the forum rule breaches it would perhaps be better to take the time to review the rules before any further trading and then try and follow them to help prevent further issues. Hope that helps clarify further.




Thank you mod for clearing my point .
I did't want to hijack someone thread , sorry if i did that but i only reply there After sending PM just to make it in records that i tried to contact the person via pm for the stated phone .
How can i buy the item without any prof of any pictures that the seller has the thing in his possesion thats why i asked him to provide me picture and he stated that if i am intrested he will put it on here for sale and reserve for me . I wait for him for 3 Days to put this for sale and he did't wait for me for 12hrs .

I only want to make this point to that person that atleats if someone is intrested in anything you have and got some feedback then give him atleast some chance to clear himself for the sale or not because some day you might want something from someone .

Thats all i want to say & thanks for the mods and other members to understand my problem .

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