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Neighbours from Hell (well from the Vestibule at least)

stevieglesga Avatar
6y, 11m agoPosted 6 years, 11 months ago
My mum's upstair neighbours have got themselves a thunderous treadmill and everytime they it use her ceiling and light fittings shake violently.

They are a young couple and are really ignorant so she doesn't want to say anything to her. The girl is a right little princess and really rude. The late night parties she can accept (after all she does live in a flat) but she is really concerned about the structural integrity of the 1950s built ceiling and doesn't know what to do given their attitude and previous responses.

Despite polite requests they didn't cut the communal drying green for the three years they have been living there until she started to only cut half of it and they have flooded her several times. They had the audacity to say that "it was only a bit of water" and that she was nothing but a moaner.

Luckily my brother is not around at the moment. He is a erm...colorful character and i dread to think what action he might take on his return. So any advice (other than "move her") would be much appreciated.
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6y, 11m agoPosted 6 years, 11 months ago
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#1
could you contact the council? Wondering if it could be classed as anti social behaviour - I know we class it as that! Hopefully they will too

And your landlord?
banned#2
What's a drying green?
#3
Don't worry - like most treadmills it won't be used after a couple of weeks!
#4
Going through the council / police with these sort of things is an absolute nightmare, plus would make the situation worse... I've had friends with experiences like this, it very rarely ever gets resolved unless it's a bad, very obvious and other neighbours complain. It's hard to prove and unless it's coming to physical violence between two neighbours, mostly put on the backburner.

I'm afraid a big burley man visiting her door, telling her to cut the **** out and worrying his mother below or she may find her car tires slashed in the morning.. Would go a long way further than anything the council would do.. Which is a shame really..

On the up side, a subtle threat like that is pretty difficult for the girl to prove to any police.. Probabley **** her up enough to think before she ruins ya mums peace and quiet.
#5
DanJackson
What's a drying green?


dont think thats a hard one to work out

Stevie, if its a council house, then I would alert them to the problem. Or maybe you could go and visit them? where abouts is your mum. My friend down in Parkhall having a terrible time with her upstairs neighbour who has just put down wooden flooring - noise is unbearable with them and the kids
#6
DAMNOME
Don't worry - like most treadmills it won't be used after a couple of weeks!


actually I reckon thats spot on !!!!
#7
Emzy81
could you contact the council? Wondering if it could be classed as anti social behaviour - I know we class it as that! Hopefully they will too

And your landlord?


In previous issues the Council offered to provide a mediation service and wouldn't send out any inspectors to look at her bathroom ceiling (location of the major flooding)

The council are the factors as it is a bought "ex-council" house

DanJackson
What's a drying green?


lol, A communal grassed area for drying clothes on washing lines between poles
1 Like #8
is this website of any use Neighbours from hell in britain.

i hope you get this sorted for your mum.
#9
spritey
Going through the council / police with these sort of things is an absolute nightmare, plus would make the situation worse... I've had friends with experiences like this, it very rarely ever gets resolved unless it's a bad, very obvious and other neighbours complain. It's hard to prove and unless it's coming to physical violence between two neighbours, mostly put on the backburner.

I'm afraid a big burley man visiting her door, telling her to cut the **** out and worrying his mother below or she may find her car tires slashed in the morning.. Would go a long way further than anything the council would do.. Which is a shame really..

On the up side, a subtle threat like that is pretty difficult for the girl to prove to any police.. Probabley **** her up enough to think before she ruins ya mums peace and quiet.


My main concern is that my brother is a man of action as opposed to words. And that would lead to nothing good. He would anticipate any tit for tat retaliation and do something drastic.

And that can't happen

I have told to go to the council and request a structural test or something
#10
My brother has the same problem with his upstairs neighbours and there are a lot of them spit into 2 flats. They have laminate flooring which is very noisy and with the washing machine going makes it even worse. Speaking to them is a waste of thime as it just creates more problems and complaining to the housing association is a waste of time as they do nothing.

Now my brothers flat is in a house split into 3 flats so they all share a water tank, when they make a lot of noise and really annowys him he turns his taps on and wastes all the water and as the tank is upstairs it also makes alot of noise for them.

Shuts them up as well.
#11
stevieglesga
My main concern is that my brother is a man of action as opposed to words. And that would lead to nothing good. He would anticipate any tit for tat retaliation and do something drastic.

And that can't happen

I have told to go to the council and request a structural test or something


Mmm, difficult.. I mean normally someone who looks threatening would **** them up, depends on what the girls fella is like.. I would personally say ya mum is screwed in this situation, for anyone whos actually been through the council.. They'll know it starts with allot of procedure and promises and then little action.

I honestly believe with situation likes these, intimidation is the best solution. Purely because the council do sod all.
#12
make their life hell in return. i have had terrible neighbours in the past. can you call their landlord, get them kicked out?
#13
You need to get in contact with the council but the police is the better option. This is classed as asb and the sooner an asbo diary is started the faster you will get a resolution. Find out your local non emergency number and everytime an incident occurs call it so it's logged, it will help evidence the asb. Also make sure you or your mum play on how distressing she finds it, that it makes her feel threatened and she doesn't want to confront them anymore. The more times she contacts the police the faster she will get a resolution, see your local policy pledge! Hope it helps.
#14
spritey
Mmm, difficult.. I mean normally someone who looks threatening would **** them up, depends on what the girls fella is like.. I would personally say ya mum is screwed in this situation, for anyone whos actually been through the council.. They'll know it starts with allot of procedure and promises and then little action.

I honestly believe with situation likes these, intimidation is the best solution. Purely because the council do sod all.


intimidation has worked for me in the past. if their trendmill is the problem, are you able to cause the house or flat to constantly brown out when being used?
#15
tinks404
You need to get in contact with the council but the police is the better option. This is classed as asb and the sooner an asbo diary is started the faster you will get a resolution. Find out your local non emergency number and everytime an incident occurs call it so it's logged, it will help evidence the asb. Also make sure you or your mum play on how distressing she finds it, that it makes her feel threatened and she doesn't want to confront them anymore. The more times she contacts the police the faster she will get a resolution, see your local policy pledge! Hope it helps.


I have told her this but she doesn't want to bother the police. Reckon i might call them and ask for advice. The policy pledge may be worth investigating. I have also told her to keep a log but it has got to the point that i feel iam nagging my mum

ascen
intimidation has worked for me in the past. if their trendmill is the problem, are you able to cause the house or flat to constantly brown out when being used?


Trust me, intimidation wouldn't work. My mum reckons the girls father "knows" some folk. With this in mind my brother's actions would be unthinkable. He loves my mum more than anything and lets just say he would be capable of anything.
#16
How long has the treadmill been there?
Is it likely to be forgotten about soon - you've already sugested they are a bit lazy...

If it was me and someone complained about me using a treadmill i would use it even more... but my one now never gets used... perhaps wait and see may be best in this instance..

the problem may sort itself out really soon...

don't loose sleep over it - life is too short.- hope you and your family have a great 2010.
#17
DAMNOME
How long has the treadmill been there?
Is it likely to be forgotten about soon - you've already sugested they are a bit lazy...

If it was me and someone complained about me using a treadmill i would use it even more... but my one now never gets used... perhaps wait and see may be best in this instance..

the problem may sort itself out really soon...

don't loose sleep over it - life is too short.- hope you and your family have a great 2010.


To be honest it isn't just the treadmill. The grass, the flooding and their general rudeness. Their garden is a tip, literally, and they even intentionally leave the front gate open just to annoy my mum. They had a party the other night and had the smokers out at her window where they deposited their fag ends and she reckons they were playing the Wii or something (with all the associated laughing, screaming and jumping) till about 3am.

She is a right little madame although he seems a bit more approachable. I reckon that even I would be tempted to slap her smug little face. She really is a disgusting piece of trash playing at houses with no regard for her neighbours.

Dear me, I am sounding like my Papa.
#18
stevieglesga
To be honest it isn't just the treadmill. The grass, the flooding and their general rudeness. Their garden is a tip, literally, and they even intentionally leave the front gate open just to annoy my mum. They had a party the other night and had the smokers out at her window where they deposited their fag ends and she reckons they were playing the Wii or something (with all the associated laughing, screaming and jumping) till about 3am.

She is a right little madame although he seems a bit more approachable. I reckon that even I would be tempted to slap her smug little face. She really is a disgusting piece of trash playing at houses with no regard for her neighbours.

Dear me, I am sounding like my Papa.


I genuinely sympathise with your mum's situation but is often easy to become overtly critical........" they even intentionally leave the front gate open just to annoy my mum"

Compromise works both ways?
#19
spud999
I genuinely sympathise with your mum's situation but is often easy to become overtly critical........" they even intentionally leave the front gate open just to annoy my mum"

Compromise works both ways?


There are a couple of dogs in the area that poo in gardens. All she did was ask them to make sure it was shut. One of the other neighbours told my mum that she saw her go back and open it once when he had closed it.

Leaving the gate open isn't a big deal. It's the fact that she only does it because she thinks it annoys my mum,

When they said they couldn't cut the grass because they couldn't afford a lawnmower my mum offered to let them use hers. They declined, but managed to get several parcels from Next every other week (some of which my mum had to take because they were at work) non eof which were a lawnower.

When they flooded her kitchen by breaking a pipe while decorating and damaging the ceiling they told my mum that they would get round to fixing it when they were not too busy.

Once they actually replaced their own kitchen they dumped the rubbish in their garden, next to my mum's door for 1.5 years saying that they were going to hire a skip, but were a bit low on cash. To this date they have left piles of bricks, wood and general rubbish accumulating.

They haven't weeded their drive in the three years they have lived there and it looks like a dump.

But they are able to go on regular holidays. During the most recent their newly installed heating system (contractors used my mum's garden for storage) developed a problem with occassionally heavy water ingress to my mums bathroom. These things happen but when my mum spoke to their housesitter she was told that a plumber would be contacted when they came back. My mum had to turn the water off before they would do anything about it.

Compromise??? Can't compromise with ignoramuses.
banned#20
Sometimes you have to bite the bullet mate. Help your mum move to a better area. If it really is that bad, would it be so hard hard to move?
#21
BeemerMad
Sometimes you have to bite the bullet mate. Help your mum move to a better area. If it really is that bad, would it be so hard hard to move?


The area itself is ok apart from these neighbours. The pooing dogs aren't owned by anyone in the street.

It has been her home for 40 years and is reluctant to move. All her brothers and sisters are relatively close and she is not the most confident person and wouldn't feel secure moving to an unfamilar area. She was assualted a while back and i don't reckon she has ever fully recovered
#22
dcx_badass
How can the people upstairs know it's a problem if you won't even tell them. What a stupid thread.


Have you even read the thread or do you just go around making inane and rude comments?

She has approached them on several occasions and been referred to mediation by the council . All stated in the thread. IF you bothered to open your eyes
#23
I had problems like this a few months ago, and again in the same town 3 years ago(seems to just be the town I was in which had an chavvy rep) well my problems were in reverse, I had a neighbour who constantly knocked on my door and screamed at me claiming I was keeping him awake and I was quiet up till 11pm each night then stayed up all night partying which is impossible since I have Aspergers and went to bed most nights by 3am apart from about 5 nights out of 3 months when I had an all nighter playing video games with the low volume so much I couldnt hear it and it got so bad he attacked me one time and choked me on the stairs and punched me and still made me out to be the bad one.

I have never before and never since had a complaint about my noise and I am 27 years old! in fact especially in the student accomodation I am in people have knocked on my door as I am so quiet they dont know if I am in.
#24
ryouga
I had problems like this a few months ago, and again in the same town 3 years ago(seems to just be the town I was in which had an chavvy rep) well my problems were in reverse, I had a neighbour who constantly knocked on my door and screamed at me claiming I was keeping him awake and I was quiet up till 11pm each night then stayed up all night partying which is impossible since I have Aspergers and went to bed most nights by 3am apart from about 5 nights out of 3 months when I had an all nighter playing video games with the low volume so much I couldnt hear it and it got so bad he attacked me one time and choked me on the stairs and punched me and still made me out to be the bad one.

I have never before and never since had a complaint about my noise and I am 27 years old! in fact especially in the student accomodation I am in people have knocked on my door as I am so quiet they dont know if I am in.


You live in a downstairs flat you got to accept some level of noise, Just as I who lives next to a pub expects some noise especially at closing time, It's when people don't give a damn or seemingly incite conflict by their behaviours that annoys me.

The couple who sold the flat spent most of the year abroad and when hom eentered their garden in competitions, so my mum had it easy. At first i thought she was exaggerating until i saw and heard for myself their antics,
#25
stevieglesga
You live in a downstairs flat you got to accept some level of noise, Just as I who lives next to a pub expects some noise especially at closing time, It's when people don't give a damn or seemingly incite conflict by their behaviours that annoys me.

The couple who sold the flat spent most of the year abroad and when hom eentered their garden in competitions, so my mum had it easy. At first i thought she was exaggerating until i saw and heard for myself their antics,


Yeah this guy was below me, I think it all boiled down to the fact I had laminate flooring and it was basically a bedsit with a seperate kitchen i.e a tiny bedroom and a kitchen with a chair in( and a bathroom and so I was always in the "living room" and his rooms were reversed so his bedroom was below my kitchen/living room and his kitchen/living room was below my bedroom.

I went to the toilet quite a lot or got a glass of water.

The other cheeky thing was though, was that I walked around without shoes on to be polite and part of his comments to me was that I wore thick boots in the house which I didnt.

Is it a bad area she is in btw?
#26
dcx_badass
I did read it, yes she has approached them in the past, but not about this problem.


Possibly i have not expressed it clearly but she is fed up speaking to them especially when given some of the vitriolic outbursts by the female, Previously she complained about them putting on their washing and drying machines in the early hours and was told that it suited them and she would have to live with the noise. The noise was in their house and they were able to sleep.

How would you approach them?
#27
dcx_badass
I would tell them to sort it out or you are going to the council/police. But then again I wouldn't live in a flat either so it wouldn't be a problem.


Been to the Council several times. It was them that suggested mediation.

And i love how so many people pn HUKD are unaflicted by the recession or can buy whatever they like, live wherever they like or do anything they want. And are so judgemental and condescending.

Not everyone can afford 5 bedroom detached homes, or Sony LEDs or pimp lifestyles. Please remember that before delivering your words of wisdom
#28
i have had some terrible neighbours in the past and i have dealt with them through intimidation, i appreciate that this method in your situation will not work.

i have been thinking about your problem and have a few questions:

1) does their noise effect other neighbors?
2) do the nasty people own or rent their apartment?
3) are there ways to make their lives uncomfortable so that they might move on?
#29
If that dog in the avatars yours I'd take that round with me...

They sound like a bunch of layabouts and I'm guessing your mum might be retired? Is there no form of retaliation she can take? Sound travels quite well!

My neighbours used to think it was hilarious to have hastily arranged parties going on till 3am in the week until I started playing music (and gears of war) at 6am in the morning, a bit of tit for tat goes a long way.

Ask her to watch Deal or No Deal or breakfast telly at full volume...
#30
ascen
i have had some terrible neighbours in the past and i have dealt with them through intimidation, i appreciate that this method in your situation will not work.

i have been thinking about your problem and have a few questions:

1) does their noise effect other neighbors?
2) do the nasty people own or rent their apartment?
3) are there ways to make their lives uncomfortable so that they might move on?


1) No, some other neighbours have mentioned the mess and have overheard some of the abuse
2) Owners
3) Yes, but only through acts of violence

Going to get my mum to keep a log and report the noise to the council. But their response to complaints over the upkeep of their gardens was to send them a letter explaining the value of maintaining property- think i saw it blowing down the street the other day.:whistling:

It's a shame. Neighbours should be able to talk to each other and as a another poster mentioned, compromise and understand the each others situation.
#31
Flodd
If that dog in the avatars yours I'd take that round with me...

They sound like a bunch of layabouts and I'm guessing your mum might be retired? Is there no form of retaliation she can take? Sound travels quite well!

My neighbours used to think it was hilarious to have hastily arranged parties going on till 3am in the week until I started playing music (and gears of war) at 6am in the morning, a bit of tit for tat goes a long way.

Ask her to watch Deal or No Deal or breakfast telly at full volume...


Yeah that's one of my dogs, but she most likely would lie on her back for a tummy rub before licking them to death.

They aren't exactly layabouts. They both work and with all the stuff that goes into their home I imagine their home is very nice. They just don't have any manners or care about anyone but themselves.

Cue the "Ah, I remember in my day you coud leave your door opened etc....." but it definately is a sign that respect i no longer valued (unless you live in da hood)
#32
Stevie, only just caught this thread.

I know you don't want to use ASB stuff, but from what you're saying it is an option you should consider seriously.

If the people causing the problem are council tenants, you should report them to their housing officer and have them deal with them.

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