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Neutral feedback on ebay has disappeared? Why?

makershaker Avatar
6y, 7m agoPosted 6 years, 7 months ago
Got conned by a girl on Ebay who claimed a pair of shoes i sent her never arrived, she won the paypal appeal and got her money back as i never sent it recorded.

So she then left me a Neutral feedback but it now seems to have dissapeared, why would that be?
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6y, 7m agoPosted 6 years, 7 months ago
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#1
she may have had her account deleted? you checked that
#2
monkeybrains
she may have had her account deleted? you checked that


No, found her account but nothing on it said she was suspended or anything?



Sorry, i take that back, her account has now changed to 'Not a registered user'
suspended#3
To counter the scam, couldn't you have just sent the person something by recorded when the dispute was raised? (For example, a piece of paper), To ensure you had a tracking number.

I got scammed in the same way, although the member received the item and left positive feedback, stole my money through a Paypal claim and then de-registered.
Ebay and paypal treat sellers like crap always.
#4
i thought about that but if paypal had went to royal mail and asked them to confirm details of the parcel then they would have found out i'd sent the parcel AFTER the claim was made against me.
suspended#5
makershaker
i thought about that but if paypal had went to royal mail and asked them to confirm details of the parcel then they would have found out i'd sent the parcel AFTER the claim was made against me.


If they did then maybe you could say that there was a delay in dispatching the item? Which im sure there would be nothing wrong with.

Just a thought anyway as i have heard of a few other people who have talked about that way.
#6
How do you know the shoes arrived? :?
#7
Jumpingphil
How do you know the shoes arrived? :?


i agree with this, if you didn't send it recorded its likely the item got lost. I bought a £250 iphone a few weeks back and the seller sent it as a standard parcel. When i claimed i never received it and got my refund he calls me a scammer.

With no proof of postage, surely ebay have no choice but to refund the buyer

Also if she left abusive comments or personal things in the feedback ebay would have removed it
#8
with normal mail you only get proof of postage - not delivery! which is why it's always best to spend that extra few pence on recorded delivery... altho people on ebay expect everything to be free delivery nowadays... in the past 4 months i have had 6 people complain about the postage costs and why i don't post for free, when they win their virtually brand new item for 99p they complain about the £2 postal charge.. you just can't win!! lol
#9
I list everything as Recorded Delivery only. One guy recently used Buy It Now and then emailed me to say, "Can you send an invoice for normal delivery as I'm not bothered about it being recorded."

Ha ... I'm sure you're not! No I CANNOT!
#10
DK, fighting fraud with fraud, weight are on the labels or the receipt btw, that wouldn't work.,

Seriously how do you know she is a fraudster? Do you have proof of delivery? Or just postage which does not mean it's delivered.

If she is NARU granted probably more to it, eg she has a habit of doing stuff like this but still.

Out of 100's of parcels I get every year, say one or 2 don't arrive genuinely, I'd be mighty hacked off if soemone called me a scammer, parcels do get lost sometimes not everyone who claims INR is a scammer:x

Oh ebay will have removed the fb, when she went NARU.
suspended#11
tinkerbell28
DK, fighting fraud with fraud, weight are on the labels or the receipt btw, that wouldn't work.,


How would Ebay/Paypal know how much it should weigh? Or if they did know then you could just put something of a similar weight inside :)

Yes fighting fraud with fraud sounds bad, but scammers should not get away with it.
#12
DarkKnight
How would Ebay/Paypal know how much it should weigh? Or if they did know then you could just put something of a similar weight inside :)

Yes fighting fraud with fraud sounds bad, but scammers should not get away with it.


Easy peasy, they phone paypal and choose SNAD, paypal will change it in these circumstances, as it does happen rare, but scammers do send crap through the post.

You provide pic of the packaging, the dimensions and weight, pp then ask for the proof of postage from the seller which has the weight on it if not on the label. You then obviously report it to the police. Find a "witness" who saw you open the parcel, pp will pay out and the seller will end up reported to the police.
suspended#13
tinkerbell28
Easy peasy, they phone paypal and choose SNAD, paypal will change it in these circumstances, as it does happen rare, but scammers do send crap through the post.

You provide pic of the packaging, the dimensions and weight, pp then ask for the proof of postage from the seller which has the weight on it if not on the label. You then obviously report it to the police. Find a "witness" who saw you open the parcel, pp will pay out and the seller will end up reported to the police.


Huh? Why would the seller be reported to the police when the buyer is the scammer?
And would the police even bother with it?
And the seller could say "Well the buyer received the goods but then faked a different parcel to take my money"

I heard from a workmate of some seller in the US who sent a parcel of bolts that weighed the same as the phone that they was supposed to send, and won the appeal. So i'm sure the idea works. :thinking:
#14
khy86
i agree with this, if you didn't send it recorded its likely the item got lost. I bought a £250 iphone a few weeks back and the seller sent it as a standard parcel. When i claimed i never received it and got my refund he calls me a scammer.

With no proof of postage, surely ebay have no choice but to refund the buyer

Also if she left abusive comments or personal things in the feedback ebay would have removed it


how did you know it was sent standard parcels?

Claimed you never received it even though you did?
#15
DarkKnight
Huh? Why would the seller be reported to the police when the buyer is the scammer?
And would the police even bother with it?
And the seller could say "Well the buyer received the goods but then faked a different parcel to take my money"

I heard from a workmate of some seller in the US who sent a parcel of bolts that weighed the same as the phone that they was supposed to send, and won the appeal. So i'm sure the idea works. :thinking:

It does there are a few examples on here I will look later. If you don't provide the goods and scam sending other goods you get a crime reference and report it and get a pp refund.

There is no proof the buyer is a scammer the seller would drop themselves in the crap hth.

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