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New Car Tax Rules 2017

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for cars registered on or after 1st April 2017 I can see a run on cars for the next few months. Read More
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6m, 2w agoPosted 6 months, 2 weeks ago
for cars registered on or after 1st April 2017

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I can see a run on cars for the next few months.
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6m, 2w agoPosted 6 months, 2 weeks ago
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So much for promoting greener cars

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2 Likes #1
Lucky I traded the Micra in for the Lamborghini.
8 Likes #2
So much for promoting greener cars
1 Like #3
Orcinus_orca
So much for promoting greener cars

The first year rates seem to be a reasonable incentive for greener cars.
2 Likes #4
SuffolkLad222
Orcinus_orca
So much for promoting greener cars
The first year rates seem to be a reasonable incentive for greener cars.

Frankly that's a great deal for those with means. That means the TAX is dirt cheap for a high-end car, and the upfront cost would likely be offset into the cost of the vehicle.

In otherwords, they've screwed those with smaller cars.

Anyone know what their logic was?
#5
todays headlines show an all time record for new cars
1 Like #7
TeamMCS
the upfront cost would likely be offset into the cost of the vehicle. In otherwords, they've screwed those with smaller cars. Anyone know what their logic was?

The dealers can't just lose this upfront cost as it has to be paid to the government. I expect some will use it as part of their sales spiel, but in reality it will be a discount you could otherwise have got, BUT overall you will be spending more.

The reasoning for the change is that the government is losing revenue through the current low rates. Motor manufacturers have made cleaner cars than anticipated. The Government need to change to recover the revenue and they have been quite transparent about this.
#8
so... If I buy a car next year that's at least 1 year old, and has medium-high emissions, you still only pay £140 tax, because it's not a new car?
#9
meandog101
so... If I buy a car next year that's at least 1 year old, and has medium-high emissions, you still only pay £140 tax, because it's not a new car?


only cars registered after 1st April will be the new tax system so if the car you purchase was registered after that date, then yes the 2nd and subsequent years tax is flat rate £140
#10
SuffolkLad222
TeamMCS
the upfront cost would likely be offset into the cost of the vehicle. In otherwords, they've screwed those with smaller cars. Anyone know what their logic was?
The dealers can't just lose this upfront cost as it has to be paid to the government. I expect some will use it as part of their sales spiel, but in reality it will be a discount you could otherwise have got, BUT overall you will be spending more.
The reasoning for the change is that the government is losing revenue through the current low rates. Motor manufacturers have made cleaner cars than anticipated. The Government need to change to recover the revenue and they have been quite transparent about this.

I disagree. The new rules make SUV's, trucks, sports cars much more affordable over the long term. A couple of grand on top of a 50-80+k car is effectively nothing - the dealer will likely "compensate" that cost.

Surely the logical thing to do would have been to tighten the CO2 regulations?! incentivise yet more efficient cars.

For electric car buyers (think Tesla model 3) it is a boon. If I were Musk I'd be making damn sure my range stayed under the 40k mark for anything but the med-high-high packages.
#11
thats correct , this is a way of getting people to buy large engined uneconomical cars that depreciate faster than a peregrine falcon diving from the sky , whilst using more fuel and creating more tax for the government
#12
Hmm a bit annoying. I pay £30 per year at the moment for my car. Can't say I'm looking forward to seeing that jump so substantially.
#13
If my car was made in 2017 i would be paying £2000 for the first year. EEEK.

Already paying £515 a year for tax on one car, and i have 2 others!.
3 Likes #14
g8spur
Hmm a bit annoying. I pay £30 per year at the moment for my car. Can't say I'm looking forward to seeing that jump so substantially.
As far as I know your road tax will stay at the same rate, this is cars registered from April 2017..
1 Like #15
This is probably why I pay zero road tax on my 1.6tdi

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#16
£310 per year ontop for cars over 40k.

So a 530D youll be paying £500ish roadtax. Wtf.
4 Likes #17
I pay £30 a year for a smallish 1.2petrol. If I buy the same model in 2017 I will pay 140 per year -after the first year. Yet Mr Gas Guzzler will pay the same (after year 1).

There is now no incentive to buy a new economical car as the "discount" is £120 year 1... £90 more than current rules. At least we will be able to ditch our loe emmision shoe boxes and buy a nearly used car with a bigger engine cause there will be no difference in taxation.

Taking bets on when the U-Turn kicks in..
#18
splatsplatsplat
I pay £30 a year for a smallish 1.2petrol. If I buy the same model in 2017 I will pay 140 per year -after the first year. Yet Mr Gas Guzzler will pay the same (after year 1).
There is now no incentive to buy a new economical car as the "discount" is £120 year 1... £90 more than current rules. At least we will be able to ditch our loe emmision shoe boxes and buy a nearly used car with a bigger engine cause there will be no difference in taxation.
Taking bets on when the U-Turn kicks in..
It is madness.

There won't be a U-turn though.

For example, when was the last changes in vehicle tax? 2005 wasn't it?. At least i know that if you buy a 2.7 range rover sport, made in 2005 the tax is half the price of a 2.7 range rover made in 2006. I think (need to double check) that the 2005 one is £220 a year and the 2006+ one is £515 a year. Same shape, same engine, same emissions. No explanation as to why. The tax costs and variations between each car has been stupid, now its getting even more stupid.

Owning a car is a luxury, so the government will do all they can to encourage the use of public transport and create another way to claw more money from you.
1 Like #19
POWYSWALES
This is probably why I pay zero road tax on my 1.6tdi https://s29.postimg.org/9mwxlyzpj/20170104_152924.jpgimg host

I bet that pulls the birds. :p
#20
The goverment would tax cyclists if they could.
#21
thecoolguy
The goverment would tax cyclists if they could.
I am suprised they don't bring window tax back.
4 Likes #22
Tax should be on fuel only, The more uneconomical your car the more fuel you'll need. It is a complete scam.
#23
I blame Brexit. Govt forced to raise revenue to cope with decreasing tax revenues and the impending fallout
that Brexit will bring.
1 Like #24
CookinBat
I blame Brexit. Govt forced to raise revenue to cope with decreasing tax revenues and the impending fallout
that Brexit will bring.

Brexit hasn't happened yet, They're just looking for other ways to scam people.
3 Likes #25
I blame Error.
#26
CookinBat
I blame Brexit. Govt forced to raise revenue to cope with decreasing tax revenues and the impending fallout
that Brexit will bring.
X)
#27
TeamMCS
SuffolkLad222
Orcinus_orca
So much for promoting greener cars
The first year rates seem to be a reasonable incentive for greener cars.
Frankly that's a great deal for those with means. That means the TAX is dirt cheap for a high-end car, and the upfront cost would likely be offset into the cost of the vehicle.
In otherwords, they've screwed those with smaller cars.
Anyone know what their logic was?

Tory voters don't drive small cars I guess!
1 Like #28
thecoolguy
The goverment would tax cyclists if they could.

AND RIGHTLY SO, plus make them have insurance and wear reflective and protective clothing!
1 Like #29
Graham1979
thecoolguy
The goverment would tax cyclists if they could.
AND RIGHTLY SO, plus make them have insurance and wear reflective and protective clothing!

they don't need insurance as only hurt themselves when they crash
2 Likes #30
MrMoonX
Graham1979
thecoolguy
The goverment would tax cyclists if they could.
AND RIGHTLY SO, plus make them have insurance and wear reflective and protective clothing!
they don't need insurance as only hurt themselves when they crash

A man was killed near me by a cyclist, I'm sure its not the only case.
#31
airfix
POWYSWALES
This is probably why I pay zero road tax on my 1.6tdi https://s29.postimg.org/9mwxlyzpj/20170104_152924.jpgimg host
I bet that pulls the birds. :p
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#32
I don't really see a problem with this new system. Yes I'm happy with my £20 a year just now. I'll probably keep it for 5 years anyway.
What this basically balances out is every car will pay much the same each year to use the roads. After all a 1.0l or a 5.7l still add to congestion.
The additional fuel consumption on larger cars will mean more fuel duty is collected than a smaller and more economical car.
Also manufacturers brought this on. Now we may actually see more accurate emission tests as there is less of an incentive to manipulate them.
Also cars over £40k pay an additional £310 per year for 5 years. A £40k car isn't an essential purchase so seems fair enough too.
2 Likes #33
MrMoonX
Graham1979
thecoolguy
The goverment would tax cyclists if they could.
AND RIGHTLY SO, plus make them have insurance and wear reflective and protective clothing!
they don't need insurance as only hurt themselves when they crash

So if you bounce into a pedestrian you just bounce off? You hit a car it doesn't leave mark? Cyclists can cause damage, injury and loss of life so YES INSURANCE SHOULD BE A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT.

Don't wear any safety equipment, working lights and take any safety measures YOU GET NO COMPENSATION IF INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT, not only that no insurance or working lights its off to court and your BMX goes off to the crusher.
#34
That's a great deal, for bigger car drivers. The yearly tax is so much lower, even if it's a bit more upfront.
1 Like #35
Gaminggirl
That's a great deal, for bigger car drivers. The yearly tax is so much lower, even if it's a bit more upfront.

That doesn't help me now with my 10 year old banger :( £270 for 12 months and as I only do about 6000k a year I don't kill as many trees as most people lol.
1 Like #36
shauneco
Gaminggirl
That's a great deal, for bigger car drivers. The yearly tax is so much lower, even if it's a bit more upfront.
That doesn't help me now with my 10 year old banger :( £270 for 12 months and as I only do about 6000k a year I don't kill as many trees as most people lol.
Good for me as I may trade my 3yo tree killer in 8)
#37
We don't have to pay tax for our car. Not entirely sure why but I'm cool with it X)
4 Likes #38
Aiden1512
We don't have to pay tax for our car. Not entirely sure why but I'm cool with it X)


Is it a Little Tikes Cosy Coupe?

Edited By: Dyslexic_Dog on Jan 23, 2017 15:41: .
1 Like #39
Dyslexic_Dog
Aiden1512
We don't have to pay tax for our car. Not entirely sure why but I'm cool with it X)
Is it a Little Likes Cosy Coupe?

:| no. Volvo v40 :)
#40
I pay £295 per year on my 525i so if I bought an M5 in 2017, it'd work out cheaper to tax in the long run as the tax is £500 per year currently.

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