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New clutch for Lexus IS 220D... How much????

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Could I have burnt it out whilst trying to get up a snowy hill??? There was quite a lot of smoke from the engine...:( Read More
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7y, 6m agoPosted 7 years, 6 months ago
Could I have burnt it out whilst trying to get up a snowy hill??? There was quite a lot of smoke from the engine...:(
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7y, 6m agoPosted 7 years, 6 months ago
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1 Like #1
yes :(
but only if you were riding the clutch
#2
juninho7
yes :(
but only if you were riding the clutch


I think I was :oops:

Is it going to be a packet?
#3
won't be cheap as gearbox needs to come out!
#4
juninho7
won't be cheap as gearbox needs to come out!


FFS.. really??..... any idea of how much??
#5
not sure it depends if it has a dualmass flywheel fitted to that model , if it does then it could be v expensive , i would guess without flywheel it could be around £300 - £400 quid :(
1 Like #6
Can we assume it does have a flywheel.. because my luck dictates it will have... And so then how much??
#7
could add another £300 - £400 but don't be too negative , they don't all have or need them.
#8
OK...thanks for that..... xx
1 Like #9
Has the clutch actually failed? Did you smell a very nasty smell, worse than burning rubber?
#10
pghstochaj
Has the clutch actually failed? Did you smell a very nasty smell, worse than burning rubber?


No.. the clutch seemed fine. The car drove fine. But the engine was smoking like b**gery when I was getting it up the hill and for the rest of the journey home the car was filled with a really bad acrid smell but no more smoke. :?And yes, worse than burning rubber...oh heck.. now what could it be??
1 Like #11
I would estimate more in the region of £800+ without flywheel. Add another £5-600 if flywheel also required. This price would be a dealer price though.
#12
The Therapist
I would estimate more in the region of £800+ without flywheel. Add another £5-600 if flywheel also required. This price would be a dealer price though.


Dear god.... really??? WTF is a flywheel?? I am getting more and more confused!
#13
Sheena0104;7298174
No.. the clutch seemed fine. The car drove fine. But the engine was smoking like b**gery when I was getting it up the hill and for the rest of the journey home the car was filled with a really bad acrid smell but no more smoke. :?And yes, worse than burning rubber...oh heck.. now what could it be??


Probably have been slipping the clutch for an acrid smell. If it isn't slipping at the moment, the smell will clear on its own within a few days. Wouldn't worry much about it.
#14
The Therapist
Probably have been slipping the clutch for an acrid smell. If it isn't slipping at the moment, the smell will clear on its own within a few days. Wouldn't worry much about it.


Well.. it drove fine for the rest of the journey hopefully it just felt poorly whilst in the snow:p
Thank you all for your advise. xxxx:gift:
#15
The Therapist
Probably have been slipping the clutch for an acrid smell. If it isn't slipping at the moment, the smell will clear on its own within a few days. Wouldn't worry much about it.


What does slipping mean??:?
#16
Sheena0104;7298242
What does slipping mean??:?


Not bringing the clutch up all the way & revving the engine. I think you'll be fine. Sounds like you're stressing;-)

[edit] Slipping the clutch

Slipping the clutch (sometimes referred to as feathering the clutch) is a term used by automotive enthusiasts to describe when the driver alternately applies and releases the clutch to achieve some movement of the car. It's called slipping because the clutch plate will slip against the flywheel surface when such an action is performed. Slipping the clutch is known to be hard on the clutch surface due to the sliding friction created.
Drivers can frequently be observed slipping the clutch when they are trying to stay stationary on a hill without using neutral and the brake. They apply the clutch to climb a bit, then release to roll back, then apply again, etc. so that the car stays in about the same place. The alternative to this technique of staying stationary on a hill would be to put the vehicle in neutral and apply the brake.
Slipping the clutch is a popular term in drag racing culture and is done when launching a car, usually in a drag race. Some contend that slipping the clutch is the best way to launch a front-wheel drive (FWD) car as it prevents Torque steering that many FWD cars experience when too much power is put to the front wheels.
[edit] Riding the clutch

In a vehicle with a manual transmission, riding the clutch refers to the practice of needlessly keeping the clutch partially disengaged. This results in the clutch being unable to fully engage with the flywheel and so causes premature wear on the disc and flywheel.
A common example of riding the clutch is to keep slight continual pressure on the clutch pedal whilst driving, as when a driver habitually rests his/her foot on the clutch pedal instead of on the floorboard or dead pedal. Although this slight pressure is not enough to allow the clutch disc itself to slip, it is enough to keep the release bearing against the release springs. This causes the bearing to remain spinning, which leads to premature bearing failure.
When shifting properly the driver "shifts" to another gear and then releases pressure on the clutch pedal to re-engage the engine to the driveshaft. If the pedal is released quickly, a definite lurch can be felt as the engine and driveshaft re-engage and their speeds equalize. However, if the clutch is released slowly the clutch disc will "slip" against the flywheel; this friction permits the engine a smoother transition to its new rotation speed. Such routine slippage causes wear on the clutch analogous to the wear-and-tear on a brake pad when stopping. Some amount of wear is unavoidable, but with better clutching/shifting technique it can be minimized.
Riding the clutch occurs when the driver doesn't fully release the clutch pedal. This results in the clutch disc slipping against the flywheel and some engine power not being transferred to the drive train and wheels. Most drivers routinely use this inefficiency effectively when driving in reverse (inasmuch as fully engaging the reverse gear results in velocity too great for the short distance traveled) or in stop-and-go traffic (inasmuch as it is then easier to control the throttle and acceleration at very slow speeds).
Riding the clutch should not be confused with 'freewheeling' or 'coasting' where the clutch is pressed down fully allowing the car to roll either downhill or from inertia. While this isn't damaging to the car, it can be considered a dangerous way to drive since one forgoes the ability to quickly accelerate if needed. It is, however, common practice to roll into a parking space or over speed bumps via momentum.
#17
Sheena0104
No.. the clutch seemed fine. The car drove fine. But the engine was smoking like b**gery when I was getting it up the hill and for the rest of the journey home the car was filled with a really bad acrid smell but no more smoke. :?And yes, worse than burning rubber...oh heck.. now what could it be??


Clutches can take a bit of wear like that, it's not unusual in abnormal conditions, you just need to minimise it. Hopefully the smell will have gone by tomorrow and you can check whether or not the clutch is worn. Go onto a slight incline at 30, use top gear and put your foot down. If RPM increases before speed does, your clutch is slipping. Don't do this for too long, it also can wear your clutch too!

Obviously the smoke could have been caused by something else too.
1 Like #18
To test if your clutch is gone:
Start the car
Hold the hand break to the max (don't let go)
Slip the gear into first
Start lefting your feet of the clutch slowly

The car will rev and the engine sound loud but the car if not moving at all (like shuddring and trying to lift off).
If the car try to move, you are fine else, need a clutch.

Good luck
#19
Thanks to all again. Rep given! Have yet to go out and try it as still pretty icy and snowy. Will try later, but thanks for all your advise x
#20
Just souds like you wore down a fair bit of your clutch, not fully worn yet if it still feels fine.

Probably will need replacing earlier than before but drive it until it is noticable during normal driving
(if you are sat still, with the hand break on and you can lift/engage the clutch, in gear, without stalling the engine i'd say that it time to change :)

Thats the general rule of thumb to test used car clutches

Hope that helps

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