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steffcip Avatar
9y, 9m agoPosted 9 years, 9 months ago
hi all
I am looking to build a pc £900+vat budget excluding monitor (I have a 24" dell), mouse and keyboard and hdd (I have a 500gb seagate sata II)

I will take the core2duo 2.4 cpu for sure...

I did build 2 c2d pcs for a friend and my brother but I want mine to be the best for the above budget...

any ideas please add them here...
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9y, 9m agoPosted 9 years, 9 months ago
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#1
The easiest route I guess would be to get a bundle http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=339 and add the other parts you need, I.e. Case, PSU, video card etc etc. if you don’t want to go down that route. Give me some more details (what’s the PC will be used for etc) and I will look into it.

HTH

:thumbsup:
#2
http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50164

take a look at this post steffcip..may give you some ideas that are beyond your budget!!
#3
The motherboard you choose is critical. Read the forums at Tomshardware to give a good assessment of what to choose:

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/Motherboards-forum-50.html

Whatever you do, don't choose MSI - it won't overclock very well. Personally, I would choose an Asus P5B deluxe but there are other good choices out there.

If you plan to overclock, get PC6400 or higher rated memory. This will give you more headroom when you overclock. Try to get 4-4-4 rated memory if your budget will allow (instead of 5-5-5), again because of headroom. You should aim to install 2Gb as 2 x 1Gb modules.

If you plan on playing games (and I assume with your budget that is your intention) - get an 8800 Nvidea series graphics card.

Ensure you put at least a 530Watt power supply into your case - Personally I like the Hiper Type R PSU's because they are modular and you only need to have the power cables attached that you intend to use.

Choice of case is highly personal and up to yourself.

Suggest you install a combined card reader / floppy drive to the 3.5 inch slot.

Suggest you install 2 different makes of DVD writer

If you need TV / Multimedia - look at the Hauppage range.

Use either 1 or 2 retailers (watch out for delivery charges) - Look at Aria and Scan for benchmark prices.
#4
Low... I was thinking about pc6400 ram 4-4-4, that asus m/b and 600w+ psu
don't need the card reader as I have one included in my 24" dell
no tv card needed

I have free delivery with scan and bought already the 500gb hdd from them

thanks for the thoughts

curry... 1.5k inc 2 dell monitors... his setup is ok but I think I will get a 8800gts... I was thinking for the same cpu cooler :)

fonze... thanks.. I think I will buy all components by myself not in bundles...

no major works to be done with the pc... I just like a fast one... my laptop p4 3.4, 2gb, 160gb, x800xt, 2 dvdrw is starting to show signs of old age...
#5
Good advice there mate, I too would get a Hiper PSU, they really are great bang for buck. But I would not get a Type-R, get the Type-M, exactly the same PSU apart from a couple of cosmetic changes and it is about £10 cheaper.

They do a great 580W for just over £50. And these are rated at a continuous 580W their peak is about 630W. Noe that is quality in my eyes.

I myself would get the Gigabyte motherboard, look into what suits your needs best, The DS4 965 chipset is an awesome overclocker.

OCZ are doing some awesome ram at awesome prices at the moment. If your planning on buying very soon take a look at what they have to offer. When coupling ram with a motherboard always do a Google and research to see if their are any issues with compatibility. OCZ did have issues with an early bios on the Gigabyte boards but I think that was resolved, not 100% sure though.

G-Skill are a great performer also.

Also someone has posted a link in the hot deals section for a 640mb 8800GTS for about £230 or something. looking at your price range you may be able to get a GTX at a push.

EDIT: Ok maybe the GTX thing is too much, I was getting a little carried away there.
#6
I will order the components starting next week so any bargains (lol) post them here
#7
Hello mate, if your after bargains then I would leave the CPU and graphics card till your last purchase, as out of the whole system these are the two likely to come down in price over the coming weeks over any other component.

Over how long a period are you expecting to purchase these parts?
#8
Sorry going to have to jump and advise against the Hiper PSU. They're ok PSU's for their price but for a high end rig I will only recommend Enermax or Corsair. I will personally recommend the Corsair range they're superb PSU's made by Seasonic but with a better components and a 5 year warranty to finish the icing on the cake! I have the 520W which was more than adequate but the 620W is only a little more.

Before I proceed in spec'ing you up . . do you plan on overclocking?
#9
beerman1

Over how long a period are you expecting to purchase these parts?

2-3 days
#10
dark_shadow
Before I proceed in spec'ing you up . . do you plan on overclocking?

not from the start
but I plan to in the future
#11
dark_shadow
Sorry going to have to jump and advise against the Hiper PSU. They're ok PSU's for their price but for a high end rig I will only recommend Enermax or Corsair. I will personally recommend the Corsair range they're superb PSU's made by Seasonic but with a better components and a 5 year warranty to finish the icing on the cake! I have the 520W which was more than adequate but the 620W is only a little more.

Before I proceed in spec'ing you up . . do you plan on overclocking?


Fine if he is wanting to spend close to £100, in fact even more on the PSU. But cionsidering his budget is £900 and he wants an 8800 and a 6600 and a top overclocking board then you have to stop somewhere.

Enermax are my favourite PSU supplier but considering core 2 is low power cinsumption I think people actually go overboard on their PSU. I am not saying scrimp on one, but what I am saying is get the Hiper so you can get more powerful components. In this day and age the Hiper 580w will be overkill even for his setup!

The Hiper is perfect mate. Do not spend money that you do not need to. Keep the £50 and put it towards a better processor or card.

If he had come up saying he wanted a the 6700 Extreme, with 2x 500gb raid, 2 writers, sli 8800, twin tuners, etc etc, then yes go for a bigger PSU. But he hasn't. So why go overboard when the need is simply not there?

The guy is wanting the best performance he can get for £900 and the Enermax is not going to enhance his PC over the Hiper, all it is going to do is limit his budget.
#12
re psu I would like a silent one...
if needed I can extend my budget but don't really want to....
#13
According to the many reviews the Type-R is silent.
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=25727358768&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X3Jldmlld3M=&product_uid=98562
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/98564

Another quiet one is the Corsair as suggested by Shadow, but as they are new to the market not many reviews:
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=25727420342&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X3Jldmlld3M=&product_uid=114945

Just found this: OCZ GameXStream 700W PSU - 120mm Fan SLI Ready ATX12v v2.2 - £74.52
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/115881

I am sure this was over £90 not long ago, this seems a great price and just read a nice review on it too:

OCZ 700W GameXStream Conclusion: OCZ continues to impress as it matures in the PSU market. The 700W GameXStream is a top notch PSU, offering rock solid stability and plenty of power. If you don't need 700W, OCZ also makes a 600W version.

OCZ includes plenty of connectors on the relatively long cables with their GameXStream series PSUs. We had no problems with cabling in our standard ATX test system. The only issue was finding a place to hide the extra cables and connectors we didn't need. The GameXStream proved to be a relatively quite PSU and actually looked quite cool when it was on, thanks to its blue LEDs.

At around $160, this PSU may seem expensive, but you really do get what you pay for. Good quality PSUs cost more than mediocre ones, and we feel that this one is worth every penny. We recommend you add it to your shopping list if you are in search of a high-end power supply. We are awarding the OCZ 700W GameXStream a 9 on the Heat Meter.

They actually prefer this over the Enermax Liberty, considering Enermax are one of the best you can get then htese must be pretty good. They even state that the volatages were more stable on this than the Enermax. ;)

Wow, just found the 600W version for over £100 so that 700W is a true bargain mate, I would seriously consider it mate.
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/115880
#14
steffcip
re psu I would like a silent one...
if needed I can extend my budget but don't really want to....


I use a Hiper type R and it is quiet but not silent. I also run an E6600 and to be honest you can't hear the PSU over the case and CPU fans even though I have them set at minimum RPM. If you go for passive cooling wherever possible and turn off the case fans, you just might be able to hear the PSU. There is a lot of good advice being given out above.

The way I look at it is the Case, PSU, Speakers, KB, Mouse and Monitor can all be retained in future re-builds so you can afford to buy exactly what you want in these components. You have a large enough hard disk that it is unlikely to need replacing in future builds and you would only replace your DVD writers with HD writers when they become price beneficial. Hence, the only components you would want to upgrade next time round are the motherboard, processor, graphics and memory. If overclocking is not critical to you - you can get away with a cheaper motherboard and memory. With the E6600, even a cheap motherboard and memory will allow you to overclock to 3.0Ghz. Buying the premium components discussed above could push you up to 4.0Ghz. Only you can decide whether to balance your budget by spending more on components which you will re-use or to go all out for an extra 30% speed boost.
#15
thanks beerman
that OCZ psu looks like a good price £64 with free shipping (net price.... budget £900 net)
#16
Ah nice one, it certainly is a good price considering this is the 700W and the same company are selling the 600W for over £100!! Eeek. If you want it I would be quick incase it's an error and they change it. It is £94 over at Overclockers.

I was reading your budget as £900 with vat. Oh well, you will be getting yourself a very nice setup for that price mate. The GTX is looking good after all. (If you really want one that is).
#17
I really want a nice setup as I would like to play CnC3 and Supreme Commander on high/max settings
#18
If I want to invest more in a good m/b is this a good buy?
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-152-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=174

the above m/b and a 8800gtx (max £300 net) I will be fine with my budget

re ram
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-058-GL
or
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-072-OC

geil ram looks better latency
#19
forget that m/b... I don't want sli I think........

even better for my budget with P5B
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-150-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=565
or
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-151-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=565

what's the difference between the above?
#20
The Deluxe is the choice mate if you want an Asus board.

It is a lot better for overclocking, the P5B standard is ok but if you want the best get the deluxe, you will get much higher clocks with it. In fact it is a very good board.

The Geil ram is compatible with that board but people have had issues with certain strips of OCZ ram. Have not looked into it fully though.

I would get the Geil if it were me buying.
#21


Given they are both about the same price - the GeIL is the one to choose. It allows higher voltages and should be better for overclocking.
#22
I want to buy the m/b tonight
ebuyer have a good price on p5w
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/113951/product_info/rb/25750614085

p5b is £6 lower
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=116481

what do you think?
I dont think I will use crossfire support but........
is there another good m/b to consider without crossfire or sli support?
#23
anyone?
#24
I bought that OCZ 700w PSU...just in time... now it's overstock....
#25
Hello mate.

Just logged on.

Those two motherboards are almost identical in performance mate, the P5B uses the new 965 chipset while the P5W uses the 975x which is slightly older.

But in terms of performance there really is no difference in the two boards.

So I would go for the newer chipset, the P5B, just because it does have the new chipset and some reviews suggest it is slightly better chipset when they have reviewed other motherboards.
#26
http://forums.cclonline.com/

not sure if you take much notice of this sort of thing but here's the link anyway...no doubt you know about the one on overclockers.
#27
You have lost me CurryFishandChipShops mate, that is just a link to a forum home page?
#28
beerman1
You have lost me CurryFishandChipShops mate, that is just a link to a forum home page?


I posted in case he wanted to see the recommendations from other PC builders who pass comment on these forums.
#29
Ah, cool.
#30
Make us jealous, what have you built?

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