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NewsDemon download speed on Orange Broadband (1kb-5kb) ??? what's going on?

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insideman3y, 2m agoPosted 3 years, 2 months ago
Hi,
Want to check if this was just me or newsdemon or Orange or a combination of all three?
I've been using newsdemon for a while (6months) and have unlimited package (deal posted on this site) my download speed usually tops out at 10mbps but recently thats gone to almost nothing (2kb per second) only seems to be at certain times which leads me to beleive its just traffic managment, but 2kb>? thats just silly...
newsdemon says no issues their end and i've tried all combinations of servers US EU ? SSL non SSL same results.
Rang up Orange and their tech team based in India just said its due to high traffic at peak times? I dont believe it...

Has anyone else had issues with Orange broadband or newdemon?
Thanks In Advance.
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insideman3y, 2m agoPosted 3 years, 2 months ago
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hypnoticstate 1 Like #1
I've noticed that often in the eveing until about 1.30am my torrent downloads practically come to a stop with OB. Usually down to about 2-3kbps


Edited By: hypnoticstate on Jun 10, 2012 20:15
Shadow-360#2
Tried changing to a non standard SSL port?
Aeschylus#3
you have to go with a provider who promises they will "not" use traffic shaping, which this clearly is
Jetpac#4
Never had a problem with NewsDemon.

Definite traffic cshaping from your ISP methinks.
oldmanhouse#5
Definitely Orange's fault. If you can cope with Asian call centres, make a complaint.

Aeschylus
you have to go with a provider who promises they will "not" use traffic shaping, which this clearly is

Are there any ISPs like that left?
DE4L3R#6
Im with orange broadband. 11months to go....... then c ya , wouldnt wanna be with ya.
insideman#7
Thanks for the quick replies, Think I'm going back to o2 BB very soon in that case....
out of interest, what ISP's do you guys use ? Cheers!
insideman#8
DE4L3R
Im with orange broadband. 11months to go....... then c ya , wouldnt wanna be with ya.
Have you had many problems with them?
Aeschylus#9
Sky Max Unlimited, and I bash mine, never drops down much in the evening, I get more than they said I would....
insideman#10
i've been with them for about 6-7 months anyway I can get out early without having to pay astro fee>?
insideman#11
all that complaining seems to have worked , SABNZB just kicked in and now getting 1.1MB/ps :) really weird and annoying!
DE4L3R#12
just downloading is slow. whats SABNZB?
Jetpac#13
DE4L3R
just downloading is slow. whats SABNZB?

A newsgroup download program
insideman#14
Jetpac
DE4L3R
just downloading is slow. whats SABNZB?

A newsgroup download program
yep. :)
hsncool#15
i know this is a little late, but yeah...

i have sky fiber at home, and orange adsl at uni.

orange is good and bad. they don't cap usage, no matter how much you download, even the heaviest of users don't face consequences.
BUT, they do traffic shape torrents and newsgroups, between 6pm-11:30pm (5pm-11:30pm on weekends)
all this info is clearly shown here in section 1 and 2 of the document (a useful read/glance)

there are ways around it, however, if your news provider uses the right ports.
orange detect p2p + newsgroups from the types of data packets sent and the ports they use.
if you use SSL, they cant inspect the packets to detect the type of data, and if you use port 80, its the same port at regular http, and they wont be limiting that. luckily newsdemon does support port 80 on both its eu and us ssl server ip addresses.

with regard to other isps (and i have experience with many), i can honestly say, sky is the way forward. they really dont traffic shape or limit users at all! ive never had a problem, and i've put the connection through some serious paces. a downside to sky is that it is a very popular isp (around 20% of the market share, matched by talktalk and virgin, page 38 of ofcom's research), and this can mean at peak times, you may see speeds reduce a little, however, sky try and ensure this reduction is as low as possible, and it does vary massively from area to area. i personally see no difference, regardless of time of day, but have noticed it on sky connections at other uk locations.

if you dont want sky, bethere are another isp unlikely to bother you with restrictions. I have no experience with o2, but heard good things, and im sure they bought out bethere to implement their isp in the first place, so should be of a similar nature.

hope this helped, hope someone cared about any of this lol

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