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NHS - Possible Negligence

Leila70 Avatar
8y, 3m agoPosted 8 years, 3 months ago
I'm so upset. My cousin died yesterday. He had a fall last last weekend and was told at one hospital he only had a broken collar bone and sent home with painkillers, he started to feel worse and worse and went back to another hospital and they told him to go away with painkillers and that he had an upset tummy probably due to his chinese takeaway. He had infact a broken rib which had caused damage and blood poisoning. It caused his organs to fail and he died. When will these NHS workers stop assuming everyone is time wasters and do their job properly? I've had 3 members of my family die due to negligency on the part of the NHS and they pull together to block any investigation. I personally wouldn't want money, all I want is them to change and apologise. A lot of people can get away with not doing their job properly in other professions but the NHS are dealing with people's lives and they don't care! Sorry, my rant is over but we all just seem to put up with the shoddy way it is run. :(
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1 Like #1
im sorry to hear that.
banned 1 Like #2
so sorry to hear, heart felt wishes to you and your family, if you feel the nhs responsible through neglect then there is no-one who can stand in your way, see a solicitor and carry it through, it is not about money but you should make sure these deaths do not go by unnoticed x
#3
The same thing happened with my mum and my grandad. My grandad wasnt so lucky but my mum got through it thank god, it took them 3 years to find out she had a pancreatic cyst, in that time she lost a load of weight and wasnt eating, she ended up needing a life saving operation. Same thing happened 5 years later too. Idiots :x
#4
In this case it will be up to my aunt and uncle to pursue, but I know in the past I've had staff at the hospital admit to us that there had been things done wrong by another memebr of staff but they wouldn't make a statement. It's just so frustrating.
banned#5
Leila70
In this case it will be up to my aunt and uncle to pursue, but I know in the past I've had staff at the hospital admit to us that there had been things done wrong by another memebr of staff but they wouldn't make a statement. It's just so frustrating.


you do not need their statements, records will show what has happened, whilst people say nothing and just rant nothing will change. good luck x
#6
clarelouise25
The same thing happened with my mum and my grandad. My grandad wasnt so lucky but my mum got through it thank god, it took them 3 years to find out she had a pancreatic cyst, in that time she lost a load of weight and wasnt eating, she ended up needing a life saving operation. Same thing happened 5 years later too. Idiots :x


And you feel that if you keep complaining when you know something is wrong that they just put it down to you being paranoid. My dad is supposed to be having tests now for sysmtoms that they can't find a cause for and he's been waiting over a year as they've had tests cancelled, then lost, then cancelled twice more and it's ridiculous. I'm just scared it's going to happen with my dad too.
1 Like #7
That's awful I am so sorry. My thoughts go out to your family
1 Like #8
My sincerest sympathies got to you and your family.
#9
My thoughts are with you and your family at this sad time............but please i do not like the post title of 'NHS Killers' I have worked for the NHS for 20 years, in sometimes challenging conditions but i and my colleagues treat every patient with dignity and respect and do the upmost to ensure that patients and relatives receive the best possible treatment.

I know this will not help you at this sad time, but i want to reassure others that we (the NHS) are not 'killers'
#10
It could well be that there are good people in the NHS but I'm talking specifically about the ones at my local hospitals which I've had to deal with over the last 3 needless family deaths and I believe that they did kill my relatives. I can't sugar coat it as it needs the good people in the NHS to take a stand and come out to support families and highlight what is going wrong instead of hiding it when something bad happens. Hiding it makes them just as guilty.
[admin]#11
Sorry about your loss-
I need to change the title here sorry.
#12
No problem although there is no 'possible' about it but then again we are a 'pc' nation which is why things don't improve so I understand :)
[mod] 1 Like #13
Leila70;2766401
No problem although there is no 'possible' about it but then again we are a 'pc' nation which is why things don't improve so I understand :)


While i sympathise with your loss........to brand many thousands of people killers has nothing to do with being PC it's just nonsense.
#14
Sorry to hear about the loss of your cousin, This is obviously a really sad time for your family.
#15
my thoughts go out to you and your family x xx
#16
Syzable
While i sympathise with your loss........to brand many thousands of people killers has nothing to do with being PC it's just nonsense.


At no time did I say they were all that way. I was talking about the people involved in my experiences which was very apparent in the opening post and since I don't know their actual names all I can call them is NHS workers. What did you want me to say?

And if reading my post if even one nurse or doctor who has ever hidden something feels guilty and takes more care then it's a success.
#17
Very sorry to hear of your loss Leila, i hope that your Aunt and Uncle will pursue this.

My Uncle is quite ill at the moment and unable to eat, they have sent him home and said theres nothing wrong with him, and there obviously is, so hes home now getting worse.

It makes me feel like private healthcare might be the safer option nowadays
1 Like #18
This is a really sad thing to have to deal with and you're right with everything you have said. the nhs are an absolute joke but as you said when it comes down to peoples lives at risk there's no joking involved.
I am so sorry for your loss and i hope you get the justice you deserve
#19
nadss
Very sorry to hear of your loss Leila, i hope that your Aunt and Uncle will pursue this.

My Uncle is quite ill at the moment and unable to eat, they have sent him home and said theres nothing wrong with him, and there obviously is, so hes home now getting worse.

It makes me feel like private healthcare might be the safer option nowadays


I feel for you as it is so frustrating. That happened my exes father and it turned out he had cancer and eventually got treatment after fighting to be checked out for a couple of years. Good Luck, but be persistent. I sometimes think people can feel bullied by their doctor, especially older people and they end up not pursuing treatment. I always think older members of the family or those who are quite shy should be accompanied.
#20
jellybaby22
sorry to hear about your loss....
I know that sometimes certain doctors and nurses can be very quick to dismiss peoples symptoms as nothing....they told me my 5 year old daughter had an upset tummy when in fact she had severe concussioin and bruising on her brain......lucky I was persistant...I hope your aunt and uncle pusue this....xx


O my goodness, that is terrible. I hope she is ok now?

I think a lot of doctors and nurses have the knowledge and training but their communication skills. They dont ask appropriate questions or listen and I know with my mother who is terrible at describing things you really need to be patient with her and quiz her to try and get out the exact information.
1 Like #21
so sorry to hear about your loss ;(
2 Likes #22
I am finding it really hard to read to all this critisism of the NHS.

We are not 'a joke' .....we are hard working professionals who endevour to provide the best possible healthcare to all.

I appreciate that a bad experience of the NHS is awful, but please remember all the lives that are saved by dedicated staff who often exceed the call of duty in the interests of the patient.
banned#23
THREEMANDE
I am finding it really hard to read to all this critisism of the NHS.

We are not 'a joke' .....we are hard working professionals who endevour to provide the best possible healthcare to all.

I appreciate that a bad experinence of the NHS is awful, but please remember all the lives that are saved by dedicated staff who often exceed the call of duty in the interests of the patient.


an excellant job done the majority of the time, does not mean negligence should be ignored. How do you expect the op to feel and how do you think she should have worded the title, named names? said part of the NHS? Some folk who work in the NHS?
#24
So sorry to hear that :friends:
#25
I have respect for anyone who could make these decisions day in day out like THREEMANDE but can see Leila70 you are angry and hurt by your bad experience. Could you do something postive to remember your cousin by?
#26
I am sad to hear this and hope your are getting legal advice and help from your locals pals but can i suggest you end the details there as you don't want a heat of the moment thread showing up in court down the line.
good luck
[mod]#27
sassie;2766789
an excellant job done the majority of the time, does not mean negligence should be ignored. How do you expect the op to feel and how do you think she should have worded the title, named names? said part of the NHS? Some folk who work in the NHS?


No-one said negligence should be ignored and i'm sure we all sympathise with the OP. However NHS killers is wrong for a thread title whichever spin you may try to put on it. They save thousands of lives every year and are with the odd rare exception very dedicated and hard working people who do a lot of good.
banned#28
Syzable
No-one said negligence should be ignored and i'm sure we all sympathise with the OP. However NHS killers is wrong for a thread title whichever spin you may try to put on it. They save thousands of lives every year and are with the odd rare exception very dedicated and hard working people who do a lot of good.


I agree, hence my question?
[mod]#29
sassie;2766852
I agree, hence my question?


Not my thread.........i don't need to think of a title. :?

Although the one JB put seems right
banned 1 Like #30
Syzable
Not my thread.........i don't need to think of a title. :?


hence, why i never asked ya :p


We can talk about our experiences, even the op, and yes im sure they are feeling very upset and very vunerable at the moment, im sure we are all aware they dont mean ever person working for the NHS, but to be honest i doubt very much they are thinking 100% before posting, and yes maybe they should not post i haste, but hell who am i to judge on that score
#31
Sorry to hear about your cousin, really sad news. You should definatley look into compensation, not for the money but so that hopefully the same mistake won't be made again.
I personally feel that a lot of the problems come from overworked staff and not enough resources, rather than a lack of care about the patient by the doctors/ nurses. I think it is fair to say that no NHS professional would want to misdiagnose a patient, and while mistakes do happen, they seem to happen a lot more when staff are rushed and don't have as much time as they would like with the patient.
I don't work in the NHS but my mother was a nurse and ended up leaving because she felt she couldn't give the quality care that patients deserved. It's really sad.
banned#32
Syzable
Not my thread.........i don't need to think of a title. :?

Although the one JB put seems right


if the op's story is factual, i dont really see it as a "possible negligence" and dont suppose the op does either
#33
3girls1boy
I have respect for anyone who could make these decisions day in day out like THREEMANDE but can see Leila70 you are angry and hurt by your bad experience. Could you do something postive to remember your cousin by?


My cousin's parent's set up a charity when their last son was killed in an accident so I think they will incorporate this son's name into the existing charity or something similar to remember him.

I personally would just want the people who dismissed him to know what they did and take more care not to do it again.
[mod]#34
sassie;2766917
if the op's story is factual, i dont really see it as a "possible negligence" and dont suppose the op does either


But we don't know that.........we only know what someones said to be fact.


But anyway...........rather than argue the point. Let's let the OP grieve in peace. :thumbsup: :)
1 Like #35
I can sympathise with the op, i know she must feel very angry that she feels her cousin was let down by the doctors and nurses involved. When something like this happens you are looking for some-one / something to blame.

I am by no means trying to relinquish blame for the NHS staff involved in the incident. Her relatives MUST persue the hospital if they believe that they were negligent.

I took offence at the original title as it categorised NHS workers as 'killers'. I also took offence at the NHS being called 'a joke' I appreciate that people are entitled to thier own opinion of the NHS, however, I take these comments personally as a NHS employee and wished to make a point to stand up for other NHS workers who would also take offence.
banned#36
Syzable
But we don't know that.........we only know what someones said to be fact.


But anyway...........rather than argue the point. Let's let the OP grieve in peace. :thumbsup: :)


No, only the op and there family truely know the facts, and yes im sorry to the op for my butting in, again my hearlt felt wishes to you and your family xxx
1 Like #37
THREEMANDE
I can sympathise with the op, i know she must feel very angry that she feels her cousin was let down by the doctors and nurses involved. When something like this happens you are looking for some-one / something to blame.

I am by no means trying to relinquish blame for the NHS staff involved in the incident. Her relatives MUST persue the hospital if they believe that they were negligent.

I took offence at the original title as it categorised NHS workers as 'killers'. I also took offence at the NHS being called 'a joke' I appreciate that people are entitled to thier own opinion of the NHS, however, I take these comments personally as a NHS employee and wished to make a point to stand up for other NHS workers who would also take offence.


You've got to respect that...
#38
My thoughts are with u hun at this terrible time x
[helper] 3 Likes #39
Before people point the finger at the NHS perhaps they should remember the old adage "you get what you pay for"

The NHS has had huge increases in funding but I believe its still half of that of the US (who still make mistakes and do not provide health care for all). The UK public want a cheap NHS, untill they become ill, then suddenly money becomes unimportant and no technology or drug too expensive even if the effectiveness is debateable. Unfortunately the rest of the time people want cheap taxes and cheap petrol.

Although the NHS has its faults its one of the better systems in the world for the money spent on it. I saw a ranking of world health services recently and it was very near the top....

EDIT - I realise the last sentence is difficult to believe but it was on a slide at a presentation and I think it was based on this OECD report...
http://www.oecd.org/document/11/0,3343,en_2649_33929_16502667_1_1_1_37407,00.html
1 Like #40
gari189
Before people point the finger at the NHS perhaps they should remember the old adage "you get what you pay for"

The NHS has had huge increases in funding but I believe its still half of that of the US (who still make mistakes and do not provide health care for all). The UK public want a cheap NHS, untill they become ill, then suddenly money becomes unimportant and no technology or drug too expensive even if the effectiveness is debateable. Unfortunately the rest of the time people want cheap taxes and cheap petrol.

Although the NHS has its faults its one of the better systems in the world. I saw a ranking of world health services recently and it was very near the top....


Repped.

Everyone would love the treatment that can only be given by private healthcare. Unfortunately, the cost is out of reach of most people.

I sympathise with the OP, and even as an NHS employee I too have been badly treated by a GP. We are only Human, and make mistakes, but being negligent is different

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