Posted 13 March 2017
Nicola Sturgeon says she will seek approval next week for a second referendum on Scottish independence
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Nicola Sturgeon says she will seek approval next week for a second referendum on Scottish independence
Nicola Sturgeon says she will seek approval next week for a second referendum on Scottish independence
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sorted byi do find it strange that those who outright reject any warning of the economic effects of brexit, or state that they are worth it to increase our sovereignty, don't see it the same way when Scotland makes the same argument for a renewed attempt at it's own independence - especially when large majorities up there voted against both brexit and a tory government.
The financial impact will be horrendous but Scotland will recover and no more can they be accused of living off handouts from the UK gov.
I was very anti-independence last time due the financial risks but with Brexit - its a whole new ball game....
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I suspect it might be great for Scotland's economy.
It's looking likely that England's going to suffer heavily after it leaves the EU, with the financial services industry in particular taking a kicking. Germany and France are already working hard and investing heavily to court companies based in London, and I think that while a lot of FS workers would be willing to move to where the work is, they'd much rather move within Britain, rather than to some overseas location. If Scotland ends up out of the UK but within the EU, it could become the new financial hub, and that could be a massive win for Scotland.
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(*no backsies when the EU crumbles)
Do the Scottish people want to leave?
Can England please have a referendum at the same time to eject Scotland from the union. (_;)
To all the Scottish members on here well played in the rugby last Saturday 61-21.
We as Scots should seek an order to section this deluded woman. She is so power hungry it will be the ruination of our nation. Get on with governing what you have because we are fast becoming a joke because of your antics.
I think this post typifies the type of English mentality that Scots (and educated members of England) likely want to disassociate themselves from.
People, take note of what HEAWD writes. His predictions on this website have an unbelievably good track record.
You forgot to complete your sentence, so I've done it for you.
No. 53.2% of the country simply can't be trusted, to vote how I want them to vote.
I do wish that people who wish to project an English argument would actually bother themselves to go look up where Hadrians Wall actually is and where the border actually is .
Having a border at Hadrians Wall would effectively cede Northumberland and a large part of Cumbria to Scotland and the Scots. Those who profess to be English would do well to go read up on the battles of Halidon Hill 1333 and Flodden Field 1513 .
That little triangle can be no mans land where we can dump our nuclear waste to prevent the Scots trying to cross the border to the land of plenty.
I know who I would put money on in a Civil War between a hod carrying brickie and someone brandishing a degree in fine arts from the progressive city of Oxford.
Will an independent Scotland be able to have EU membership.
If Scotland manages to join the EU will they be forced into the Euro.
What currency will they use if they fail to join the EU.
With the oil prices fluctuating so much, what back up plan do they have to continue to run their economy when the subsidy from the UK ends.
Will an independent Scotland be in a position to retain NATO membership or declare themselves neutral a la ROI
What plans are there to find alternative jobs for their people when the Royal Navy pulls it bases from the Clyde and others.
Sure there are dozens more but without concrete answers to those, how can the Scots be expected to make a choice.
Wow you literally been here 1 minute and this is your first comment
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I can see your point. Scotland would have an appeal to an increased service sector workforce, and has plenty of land available to build new housing estates to accommodate them.
From an article in the news-
Assuming there is no change in the government’s and the Bank of England’s policy, the pound will not be available to Scotland – nor will the Bank of England’s or the FCA’s regulatory facilities be on tap. It also seems unlikely that that Scotland, on its own, will have the financial stability to meet the EU’s economic criteria to be a member.
This is a sad day, Scotland is very much part of the United Kingdom and should remain so.
2014/UK - Vote remain if you want to stay in the E.U.
People of Scotland - Cripes, we better.
Outcome - Scotland remains in the "United" Kingdom
2 years later.
2016/UK Joke, you're coming out X)
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whats the point if you can just generate a new account i just wanted to test your powers of prediction
Apologies. Was on the John
From a military/strategic angle, Scotland is huge for defence. That's what NATO is all about, not about the size of your forces.
Imagine Scotland is out of NATO and say Russia invades, well enjoy UK, you now have Russian forces sharing your island and seas, hell, Scotland in 20 years could just invite Russia to dock all its ships on the former UKs coasts.
Scotland is hugely important to NATO
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You Scots seem to think you will be allowed to keep sterling and retain the Bank of England as your lender of last resort (not going to happen).
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There, there. Have the nasty boys been saying horrid things again?
I think the reality is just setting in that yesterday the final decision was taken for us to leave the EU without having to show our hand, Democracy has won.
The people who took the Government to court must be celebrating this great day knowing that they have seen Democracy at it's finest.
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Are you sure that's not a Bay City Roller?
I've always thought May was over-rated and the last few days have proved that - u-turn over NI rise, and now I suspect she has just turned many "don't know" voters to independence votes.
give them a chance
archer distracted them with his twitter announcement - erm thread
But she realises if she actually goes through with the second and loses again she will have to resign and that will be the end of her political career.
It's sad to see the Union fall apart as someone who loves Edinburgh and St Andrews and the people of Scotland, but I think it's time.
I was very anti-independence too because of the value I saw in the Union, both culturally and financially.
The truth is that I have very little love for Britain anymore, and specifically England. We have two very different Britains emerging and you can pretty much divide them by how they voted on Brexit.
Places like Edinburgh voted overwhelmingly to Remain in virtually identical numbers as places like the City of London, Cambridge and Oxford and it's those places that I've always felt had a similar 'feel' to them. They represent the 'Britain' I always cherished.
But England seems to be moving towards a Britain that isn't of these places and that I have little love for. It's a shame we can't have a referendum and form a 'New Britain' of places that voted Remain and represent the best of British.
In lieu of that I can fully understand the Scots wanting independence and they have my full backing.
It wouldn`t be a British passport though - it would be an English/Welsh one (NI will soon be off too). As for protecting yourself - what with? Many Scots serve in the forces.....And besides Scotland has the nukes for now
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Build a Wall Build a Wall hmm havn't i heard that somewhere else recently
I absolutely think that a Scotland that leverages it's potential position as part of the EU, but outside the Euro (which is what the UK benefitted from) could absolutely thrive in the way you describe. Edinburgh could absolutely attract workers in the financial services industry in a way that Paris, Frankfurt etc. might not.
For a start they have the golf courses X)
From Scots trying to get in or from the English trying to escape?
Are you talking about Theresa May?