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9y, 1m agoPosted 9 years, 1 month ago
Anybody got any tips? Earlier on I tried taking pics of the moon and all I ended up with was a bright sort of starburst blurry ball thing:-( Tried shutter speeds from 1s to 30s and various F's but still nothing. What's going on? Any ideas/suggestions welcomed:thumbsup:

And yes I did use a tripod :p
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9y, 1m agoPosted 9 years, 1 month ago
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#1
That's about the best I can do. No tripod, use a much quicker shutter speed.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1152/pict0022ck5.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7290/pict0028ue3.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3619/dscf0440zc5.jpg

Just took the third photo on my new camera (Fuji S9600) really disapointed with it compared to the first two photos taken on my old camera (Konica Minolta Z3).
#2
That's exactly the pic I was trying to take last night. All I could get was a white ball though. Any idea of the settings used to take that one? I have considered that my failure may have been due to using AF on the camera?
1 Like #3
Great pic. I wanted to take one at about 7 'o clock - driving down into a valley with the spindlely trees up on the horizon and the moon just above them, but didn't have my camera at the time. The moon was massive, but wasn't full - did Dorset only get part measures?
#4
Shengis
That's exactly the pic I was trying to take last night. All I could get was a white ball though. Any idea of the settings used to take that one? I have considered that my failure may have been due to using AF on the camera?



That was using auto focus, max 12x optical zoom on auto settings! Might have made the shutter speed much faster come to think of it.
#5
So why is it better to take a photo with a quicker shutter speed at night?

i really need to read up on this stuff lol
#6
saxo_appeal
So why is it better to take a photo with a quicker shutter speed at night?

i really need to read up on this stuff lol



Generally it's not! Things are much darker at night so a slower shutter speed is needed (or a flash for close up). The moon is very bright (if it's a clear night), it's a direct reflection of the sun after all so a fast shutter speed is needed otherwise you get a big shiny ball and if not perfectly still with a tripod then it'll blur too.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/925/pict0020ky8.jpg
#7
Yeah that last one was how mine turned out :lol:

What I was trying to do was put it on fully manual because on auto it ups the ISO and leaves the image a bit 'rough'. Night mode works ok (not too rough but, a tad dark) but I want to work out exactly how the camera works. Can see your logic on the moon being too bright for the background though. Might have another go tonight.
#8
Shengis
Yeah that last one was how mine turned out :lol:

What I was trying to do was put it on fully manual because on auto it ups the ISO and leaves the image a bit 'rough'. Night mode works ok (not too rough but, a tad dark) but I want to work out exactly how the camera works. Can see your logic on the moon being too bright for the background though. Might have another go tonight.



Post up some pics of how you get on, try out different shutter speeds. The quickest should produce something like the first pics. Don't need a tripod.
#9
Shengis
Any idea of the settings used to take that one?

The sttings for the second photo where:
Taken on a DiMAGE Z3
F-Stop f/6.3
Exposure time 1/100 sec
ISO Speed ISO-100
#10
harlzter
The sttings for the second photo where:
Taken on a DiMAGE Z3
F-Stop f/6.3
Exposure time 1/100 sec
ISO Speed ISO-100



Thanks, even I didn't know that!
#11
Benjimoron
Thanks, even I didn't know that!

LOL In vista right click the image and select details its all there for you to see, can really get people paranoid when they post a pic and you go on to tell them what camera they have or even phone if it was took on one!
#12
So Shengis, the moon's out, where are your photos???
#13
Fast shutter speed...

Done with no tripod (didn't have one then).

http://www.browni.com/images/moon1.jpg
#14
Shengis
Yeah that last one was how mine turned out :lol:

What I was trying to do was put it on fully manual because on auto it ups the ISO and leaves the image a bit 'rough'. Night mode works ok (not too rough but, a tad dark) but I want to work out exactly how the camera works. Can see your logic on the moon being too bright for the background though. Might have another go tonight.


What type of camera is it you have? If you have a full manual mode then that's the best place to go, if it's a compact/bridge camera (small sensor) then go for around F5 or F6 ish or higher if it's an SLR. Don't let the camera mislead you about exposure, its systems will be telling you to shoot much slower but you need to try shooting in the 1/250 range. Have a look at your image and see how bright it is, move the shutter speed up if your image is too bright or if it's too dark lower the shutter speed.

Unfortunately I was working the other night and I'm missing a quick release for my main tripod, the smaller one can't hold the camera and its lens steady so I could only grab a couple of pictures handheld and not really experiment:

http://johnmcl7.smugmug.com/photos/215148163-M.jpg

John
#15
Nice shot, what zoom do you have? Looks a little closer than mine, it also looks crisper but the details don't stand out so much. ie the craters to the right hand side.

Nice shot also John, you must have an even better zoom!!! The details have come out very nicely, ie the craters at the bottom and right edges are very clear.
#16
It's the 55-200mm VR Lens (Nikkor).

I think the lack of detail is down to the shutter speed/aperture.

Now I have a tripod, I should be able to get a lot cleaner/crisper image.
#17
Apparently the best time to shoot the moon is not at its brightest as you miss the details, it's better to shoot the moon when it's dimmer as that means more light is going across it and highlights the detail.

My picture was taken with an Olympus E-510 and the Sigma 50-500mm (100-1000mm), ISO 400, F8 and 1/500s. I underexposed the raw image as I sped it up to help handhold the lens, anyone who had handled a 'Bigma' will know what I mean as it's a big, heavy lens. I think shooting at 500mm was as bad idea as I think the lens is a bit soft there, I've tried shooting with a teleconverter mounted but it was really soft.

John
banned#18
What camera are you using?

Looking at those photos, they look hopelessly over exposed.

Try to set the depth of field as high as you can (eg F22) And keep the ISO low (eg 100ASA)

Try in increments of speed until you get it right. (I assume its a digital!!!)

Night shots with a tripod are great fun! Particulary with moving traffic as part of the subject!
#19
You have to be careful with aperture - if it's set too high then you will get diffraction effects, F22 is really too high for anything smaller than an APS-C sensor.

John
banned#20
Johnmcl7
You have to be careful with aperture - if it's set too high then you will get diffraction effects, F22 is really too high for anything smaller than an APS-C sensor.


Okey dokey. Fairynuff! :whistling:

In anything like this, its always easy to experiment. (The joys of digital!)
#21
I find anything around F8 to F11 for an SLR sized sensor does the job fine, nowhere near diffraction issues but stopped down enough to get sharp results from the lens.

John
#22
Booger only woke up abot 30 mins ago. I'll go have a go in a bit :p
#23
Ok, got one :lol: Speccly though :-(

http://www.shengis.net/eby1/moon1.jpg

F4.9
ISO 400
1/500
#24
Well done Shengis, nice and big with lots of detail.
banned#25
Benjimoron
Well done Shengis, nice and big with lots of detail.


Its rubbish. Half of it is missing!:giggle:
#26
guv
Its rubbish. Half of it is missing!:giggle:


That's because of all the moon rock samples the Astronauts have brought back. :giggle:
#27
Some nice moon photos people, enjoyed, thanks for posting :)
#28
I believe there is an eclipse tonight, so I expect some more nice photos tomorrow...
#29
Windy
I believe there is an eclipse tonight, so I expect some more nice photos tomorrow...


I'm out the house at 3am to witness it with my 350d :thumbsup:
#30
Windy
I believe there is an eclipse tonight, so I expect some more nice photos tomorrow...


Thanks, what sort of eclipse? 3am you say emasu? Too early/late for me unless I wake up. Got my tripod out today so might be able to improve my photos (first post of this thread)
#31
Benjimoron
Thanks, what sort of eclipse? 3am you say emasu? Too early/late for me unless I wake up. Got my tripod out today so might be able to improve my photos (first post of this thread)


Im off to stansted so i'd be out at 4 anyway lol

tried some shots tinight and looks as though theres a thin layer of cloud about so might be a bit difficult
#32
where is this moon inspiration come from pmsl....hope its not my shot!!


Just realised this was posted AGES ago!
#33
Also have u tried just an auto shot??? I did it via hand, and i had 100iso and low F number so it took it quickly

But i also did some good ones on the auto speed
#34
Something strange happening on this thread. I know for sure I never bumped it from October last year but mine is the first post since then ????

Can only assume someone bumped it and then deleted their post. Weird !
#35
hottoshop
Something strange happening on this thread. I know for sure I never bumped it from October last year but mine is the first post since then ????

Can only assume someone bumped it and then deleted their post. Weird !


I posted it in the show your photos thread because of the recent moon photo attempts. You then posted here therefore bumping it.
#36
The blurred ones just look like there was some cloud/mist in front? If there was any at all between you and the moon it would mess up the photo?

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